Skoda Fabia VRS 2012. Auto lights retrofit OEM

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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ciclo wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:47 am
VASILEIOS1972 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:51 pm
ciclo wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:25 pm For your Dimmer tests.

From T8 to T6

T8/1 to T6/4 ... +15
T8/2 to T6/2 ... G
T8/3,4,7 to T6/1 ... ground
T8/5 blue/black wire to T6/5 ... 58d OUT
T8/6 black wire to T6/3 ... 58 IN
T8/8 ... isolate


Keep in mind that everything you do is under your responsibility.
The tests can be done with wires with crocodile clips to return to the original state if you can't get the 6R Dimmer to work.
BCM coding needed.
Hello Fernando , you are the expert, so it is fair for me and for you to prepare a wiring from T8 to T6 connector and fuse box , to make the tests plus new bcm coding.
For all those my friend, name the price to continue the project to end with complete success .

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It is possible but:

- You have to wait until the last week of September for me to manufacture this adapter wiring (T10 <-> T6) for your TESTS (or fully functional if the tests are successful).

- Unfortunately, an original female connector is not manufactured for your current male T8 dimmer connector (ETKA), so we will use a T10 male and female connectors. It involves transferring the wires from the current male T8 dimmer connector to the new male T10 connector (with the same correspondence in the slots to transfer the wires from T8 -> T10). After transfering the wires, the new adapter wiring will be Plug & Play to do the TESTS.

- The original connectors are not cheap, so I estimate that the final cost with shipping (€ 10) will be between 30 and 40 euros.

I will send you 4 o 5 MQS terminals for you to crimp 2 of them in the blue/black and black wires with the ENGINEER crimper.

Do you agree with the above?
Good morning Fernando and have a pleasant day and a week
Of course I agree and we have a deal.
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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Good morning,
Ok, it will be done as soon as possible (last week of September).

Have a nice day!
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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Good afternoon Fernando,

you have absolutely right , Skoda produces for Fabia 5J , headlights which have the description above

(Curve projector halogen headlights and front fog lights with "CORNER" function/Automatic headlight

activation/Headlight-range adjustment/Integrated front fog light)

The part numbers for those lights are 5J1941017E &. 5J1941018E .

Because I don't have ELSA yet , I think that those lights do not have extra ecu and they have been connected straight to BCM.

Can you check this my friend? If you need I can provide you vin from the car that has those lights .

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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In SK Fabia PQ25 there are two types of cornering lights depending on the equipment.

- Static cornering lights, in fog lights (static lamp), managed by the BCM.

- Dynamic cornering lights (the projector moves when turning), in main headlights, managed by an additional J745 unit (powertrain CAN bus, 2 LIN, etc), which also manages the headlight range regulation.

G85 sensor is necessary in both cases.

The range regulation motors in the headlights are the same for the headlight D model (yours) and the E model.

It is crucial to know if 6R dimmer/HRR switch is able to regulate the range of the current headlights before installing the headlights you have indicated, 'E' model.
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So to install type e lights is something like plug and play? As I understand I must install J745 , with additional wiring (some one must prepare )
The BCM coding in my case will turn headlights e or opens drl when the car turns?
The problem is that I am comfused :shock:
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Fabia II.

Headlights with dynamic cornering light, (LOL), BCM Max. Wiring diagrams.

Download pdf file:
:arrow: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u6--vU ... sp=sharing

Pages of this PDF document that you should use:

Page 3


Page 4


Page 12


Page 13


Page 14*
J745 powertrain CAN bus T18 /13, /14, to original/factory powertrain CAN bus for Instrument cluster (currently isolated after BCM Max adaptation).
The two LIN wires to the new headlights, as indicated in the diagrams you should use.


Forget the pages not indicated previously.


Your Fabia VRS from the factory BCM High, to compare: :arrow: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gMRsd6 ... sp=sharing


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Before doing the previous installation we must verify that the Dimmer/HRR 6R works correctly with the wiring (adapter) that I am preparing for you (as we agreed).

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It's possible to install footwell lights (OEM) and ambient lights in your Fabia.
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New wires you need to install J745 control unit.


Terminals needed: JPT and MQS.


+15.
-From SB14 fuse to T10/9 both headlights connectors, two 1.0 mm2 wires. + new fuse 10Amp.
-From SB9 fuse (you can use SB12 fusebox slot) to T18/10 (J745), 0.5 mm2 wire. + new fuse 5Amp.



LIN.
-Left headlight. From T10/7 to T18/18 (J745). 0.5mm2 wire.

-Right headlight. From T10/7 to T18/17 (J745). 0.5 mm2 wire.



CAN lines. Two 0.5 mm2 twisted wires.
-High. From T18/14 (J745) to old IC T32/28 wire. (currently isolated)

-Low. From T18/13 (J745) to old IC T32/29 wire. (currently isolated)



Headlight range control motors. G signals. New 0.5 mm2 wires, Remove and isolate the existing ones in T10 connectors.
-Left. From T10/2 headlight connector to T18/16 (J745).

-Right. From T10/2 headlight connector to T18/7 (J745).


Ground.
-Splice/Tap/Join new 1.5mm2 wires to T10/6 original wires in both headlights connectors and insert the new wires in T10/10 slots.



From Dimmer/HRR switch conector to J745 connector. Two 0.5 mm2 wires.
-'G' signal
-Ground
*I will include these two new wires in the shipping for the wiring adapter that I will make for you in order to test the Dimmer / HRR 6R switch. It is related.


VCDS
-Enable Address 55 in GW installation list.

-Coding:

Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 5J0-907-357.lbl
Part No: 5J0 907 357 B
Component: Low AFS H01 0004
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00019
VCID: 30650E19A738729

No fault code found.



Before doing this installation, the Dimmer 6R/wiring adapter must be tested.
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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Welcome to the forum after vacations my friend.
As I understand I don't do anything before I get the wiring for polo 6r dimmer.
As I saw in Elsa location of afs module for lhd car is at low compartment of the dash passenger side.
Can you think how many meters of wires needed?
I think that is good to prepare wiring as the module have already t10 plug with ten pin-wires.
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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Thanks.

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Fabia II, J745.
Image

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You must understand that I know perfectly the 6R distances, but for SK Fabia ... I prefer not to be a fortune teller.

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Page 12 WD.

For T18/15 (J745) don't worry, I already thought about it when I made your wiring looms for BCM Max Adaptation (intuition, and a bit of a fortune teller). :lol:
You will have to replace a wire that I will also send you (Plug and Play). You will know then why I wrote in an image (3c) 'To facilitate the installation'.
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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But my friend polo 6r and fabia 5j are the same platform pq25 . Why you telling me that you must be fortune teller .
And I insist for you to go and prepare complete wiring for the afs installation . I have already plug and module .
Please for another time think about my idea name another price for afs wiring and have a deal .
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I will not manufacture your wiring for the AFS unit, sorry.
You can do it by buying the necessary materials, you already have enough knowledge and tools to do it.
 
I no longer manufacture wiring looms for anyone. I have been doing it for many years with the sole purpose of sharing knowledges, I never sold wiring looms for profit, it was never necessary for me (I am a forum user like other users, I am not a store where anyone can buy).

All the wiring looms (HQ) that I sold in the forum were too cheap, nobody paid for the knowledges, because people want everything ... but for free. :lol:
I already commented in the forum (a long time ago) that I would not manufacture wiring looms for others.

Making the wiring looms for the BCM Max adaptation and automatic lights, buying your BCM Max from Russia and other things were already big favors.
Everything has worked correctly. :wink:

I'm already doing you other big favor by manufacturing the wiring (adapter) to try to operate the 6R Dimmer / Headlight Range Regulator switch on your Skoda Fabia.


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Making wiring looms is a simple thing, doing them correctly so that everything works is not so simple.
You already have all the necessary information in the previous posts so that your new AFS unit works correctly, another big favor because I spent my time collecting and analyzing this information for your Skoda Fabia VRS 2012 with BCM Max, etc...
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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ciclo wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:58 pm New wires you need to install J745 control unit.


Terminals needed: JPT and MQS.


+15.
-From SB14 fuse to T10/9 both headlights connectors, two 1.0 mm2 wires. + new fuse 10Amp.
-From SB9 fuse (you can use SB12 fusebox slot) to T18/10 (J745), 0.5 mm2 wire. + new fuse 5Amp.



LIN.
-Left headlight. From T10/7 to T18/18 (J745). 0.5mm2 wire.

-Right headlight. From T10/7 to T18/17 (J745). 0.5 mm2 wire.



CAN lines. Two 0.5 mm2 twisted wires.
-High. From T18/14 (J745) to old IC T32/28 wire. (currently isolated)

-Low. From T18/13 (J745) to old IC T32/29 wire. (currently isolated)



Headlight range control motors. G signals. New 0.5 mm2 wires, Remove and isolate the existing ones in T10 connectors.
-Left. From T10/2 headlight connector to T18/16 (J745).

-Right. From T10/2 headlight connector to T18/7 (J745).


Ground.
-Splice/Tap/Join new 1.5mm2 wires to T10/6 original wires in both headlights connectors and insert the new wires in T10/10 slots.



From Dimmer/HRR switch conector to J745 connector. Two 0.5 mm2 wires.
-'G' signal
-Ground
*I will include these two new wires in the shipping for the wiring adapter that I will make for you in order to test the Dimmer / HRR 6R switch. It is related.


VCDS
-Enable Address 55 in GW installation list.

-Coding:

Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 5J0-907-357.lbl
Part No: 5J0 907 357 B
Component: Low AFS H01 0004
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00019
VCID: 30650E19A738729

No fault code found.



Before doing this installation, the Dimmer 6R/wiring adapter must be tested.
Good morning my friend, thank you for your interest in my new creation

Making a repetition of the instructions you sent me have the following questions

J745

pin 10 (black purple )--------------------------------------------------- (sb 12) fuse 5A

pin 18 (grey white)--------------------------------------------------- T10 / pin 7 (left hd)

pin 17 (yellow grey)---------------------------------------------------- T10 / pin 7 (right hd)

pin 14 (orange black)------------------------------------------------------ ic pin 28 from T32 now isolated (straight connect in this wire)?

pin 13 (orange brown)------------------------------------------------------ ic pin 29 from T32 now isolated (straight connect in this wire)?

pin 16 (red blue )------------------------------------------------------ T10 / pin 2 (left hd )

pin 7 (red yellow )------------------------------------------------------- T10 / pin 2 (right hd )

pin 15 (green yellow )------------------------------------------------------- (Fernandos wire )

pin 1 (brown green )-------------------------------------------------------- T41a (pin 33) ?????????????

pin 6 (red black )-------------------------------------------------------- T 8 (pin 2) dimmer switch ?????????????????


T10 head lights

both hds from T10/pin 6 ------------------------------------T10/pin 10 ?????? (something like a bridge)??????

both hds from T10/pin 9------------------------------------- SB 14 (fuse 10A) ?


see my friend where am I wrong and where am I correct

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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VASILEIOS1972 wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:03 am

see my friend where am I wrong and where am I correct


J745

pin 10 --------------------------------------------------- (sb 12) fuse 5A ... OK

pin 18 --------------------------------------------------- T10 / pin 7 (left hd) ... OK

pin 17 ---------------------------------------------------- T10 / pin 7 (right hd) ... OK

pin 14 ------------------------------------------------------ ic pin 28 from T32 now isolated (straight connect in this wire)? ... YES

pin 13 ------------------------------------------------------ ic pin 29 from T32 now isolated (straight connect in this wire)? ... YES

pin 16 ------------------------------------------------------ T10 / pin 2 (left hd ) ... OK

pin 7 ------------------------------------------------------- T10 / pin 2 (right hd ) ... OK

pin 15 ------------------------------------------------------- (Fernandos wire ) ... YES (56x signal)
As I told you, I will send you this wire. I will send you installation instructions in an image.
For this installation we will avoid you from removing the steering wheel to reach the T41 connector.


pin 1 -------------------------------------------------------- T41a (pin 33) ????????????? ... It is NOT necessary, Ground is Ground anywhere in the car.
As I told you, I will also send you this wire. I will send you installation instructions in an image.
For this installation we will avoid you from removing the steering wheel to reach the T41 connector.


pin 6 -------------------------------------------------------- T 8 (pin 2) dimmer switch ????????????????? ... YES (G signal)
As I told you, I will also send you this wire. I will send you installation instructions in an image.



T10 head lights

both hds from T10/pin 6 ------------------------------------T10/pin 10 ?????? (something like a bridge)?????? ... YES (Ground)
You must make the splice in the wire, not in the sealed contact terminal.


both hds from T10/pin 9------------------------------------- SB 14 (fuse 10A) ? ... YES (Supply for dynamic cornering lights control motors)
A new wire from the SB14 fuse that will branch (new splice) in two new wires to T10/9 in both headlights connectors.
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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Ok Fernando we are in the right way .
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

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To display the MKE, and the Assistants menu, your IC needs the 0709 SW. It is possible to fix it in your current IC eeprom without touch the IMMO part.

Madwarlock (Slavik) can fix it if you read your IC eeprom and send him the eeprom file.
Get in touch with him, he already knows your case.

The cheapest way to read/write your IC eeprom is with the CH341A programmer. (search on google, youtube, aliexpress, etc...)

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Note: (current IC SW)

Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 5J0 920 841 F HW: 5J0 920 841 F
Component: KOMBI H04 0305 .............(MKE not displayed, no Assistants menu with this SW)
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 120C01
Shop #: WSC 44700 231 72242
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 2D5152387C87992702-8078

No fault code found.
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