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Skoda Fabia VRS 2012. Auto lights retrofit OEM

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:42 pm

Hello everybody , my wife has a Skoda Fabia 5J vrs 1.4 tsi . I want to know if you know any one WHO can provide me complete wirring for autolights retrofit .
my bcm is highline with part number :

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R7 937 087 H HW: 6R7 937 087 H
Component: PQ25 BCM H12 0022
Revision: -1------ Serial number: 1002480801
Coding: 7A980B3808010000003800403E2B09C000C0421F600000000000
Shop #: WSC 44700 231 72242
VCID: 499906A8E02FA5024A-801C

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 M HW: 6R0 959 801 M Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3211
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 020000

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 P HW: 6R0 959 802 P Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3211
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 020000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537 E HW: 3T0 959 537 E
Component: E221__MFL-URO H07 0012
Serial number: 2164426
Coding: 810000

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 D HW: 6R0 959 811 D
Component: J388__TSG_HL 002 3211
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 020000

Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 D HW: 6R0 959 812 D
Component: J389__TSG_HR 002 3211
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

I have wrote about someone expert CICLO is it possible to help me?

Regards
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:11 pm

Hello again , is it possible the ciclo member to answer in my question and help in this installation retrofit?

regards

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by ciclo » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:21 am

Hi,
You need to change your BCM High to Max, and install the RLS + RLS wiring (plus the additional wiring for BCM Max adaptation, plus wiring for automatic lights and Auto light switch).

Currently I no longer manufacture these wiring. Really sorry.

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:21 pm

ciclo wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:21 am
Hi,
You need to change your BCM High to Max, and install the RLS + RLS wiring (plus the additional wiring for BCM Max adaptation, plus wiring for automatic lights and Auto light switch).

Currently I no longer manufacture these wiring. Really sorry.
Hello my friend , i have bought everything that you wrote before , the only think that i dont have is your wirring !
Can you provide me the partnumbers of the items that needed and the complete pin in -pin out ?
I mean the complete instructions to do this by my self .
Can i contact with e-mail or viber ?

Best regards
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by ciclo » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:51 pm

Read :arrow: this thread where it says:
B- Wiring for BCM Max Adaptation + Automatic Lights Wiring + CH / LH
:arrow: Examples
Draw your own conclusions for your Skoda Fabia.
There are more threads in the forum (6R section) with a lot of information about the necessary parts. (links, etc)


Any help will be through this thread. (if you provide the info in the right way)
Keep in mind that the months of July and August are usually holidays for most people ...

useful link to start: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=42713&p=466570#p466570

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:48 pm

Thank you my friend ! But i have one question , why must read all these thinks for a kit that you sold out ?
Is it to difficult to tell me the part numbers and the pin in pin out of your own wirring ?
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=61509#p478298

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by ciclo » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:10 am

VASILEIOS1972 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:48 pm
Is it to difficult to tell me the part numbers and the pin in pin out of your own wirring ?
It's as difficult as looking for it in the forum.

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:50 pm

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Hello my friend again, those screen shots are from my bcm and as you can see it is compatible with rain-light sensor

so it is not needed to change bcm for those sensors am I right?

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:04 pm

Hello ciclo , you did not answer in my previous question.
If i send you my vin-number can you tell me if this wiring is compatible with my Fabia 1.4 tsi vrs?
Do i need the second relay for fog lights? Because my wife's Car in the place of fog lights has daylights with interior button .
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:34 pm

i figured out your instructions , so I write the complete wiring above ,please if you see something wrong please tell me

From 17 pin connector to 10 pin connector and 2 pin connector

Pin 1 -> pin 1 from - 2 pin plug
Pin 2 -> pin 1 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 3-> pin 2 from - 10 pin plug
Pin 4- > pin 2 from- 2 pin plug
Pin 9-> pin 4 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 10-> pin 5 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 11-> pin 6 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 15-> pin 7 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 16-> pin 8 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 17-> pin 9 from- 10 pin plug

From 10 pin plug-connector to 10 pin lights(new) connector + relay
Pin 2-> pin 9 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 4-> pin 7 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 5-> pin 6 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 5-> pin 2 relay fog lights
Pin 6-> pin 1 from - 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 7-> pin 8 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 7-> pin 3 relay head lights
Pin 8-> pin 3 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 9-> pin 10 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
• Pin 1-> pin 3- relay fog lights

From 2 pin plug to 10 pin plug (lights) + head lights relay
Pin 1 -> pin 4 from 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 2-> pin 5 relay (head lights)

From BCM (A) BLACK connector to 10 pin plug ( lights) + head lights relay
Pin 1 -> pin 1 relay (head lights )
Pin 37-> pin 2 from 10 pin plug (lights)

Relay (head lights) 646
Pin 1-> BCM (A) connector black pin 1
Pin 2-> pin 2 relay (fog lights)
Pin 3-> pin 7 from 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 5-> pin 2 from 2 pin plug

Relay (fog lights) 646
Pin1-> pin 5 from 10 pin plug lights
Pin2->pin 5 from 10 pin plug
Pin3-> pin 1 from 10 pin plug
Pin5-> ********************

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by ciclo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:03 am

1- Post a full autoscan, with the VIN so that I know with total certainty what is the year of manufacture of your Fabia. (I guess it's a 2011/2012 due to the BCM High model, but I don't live on assumptions for this).
You can cross out (xxxxx) the last five digits of the VIN if you don't want your ID to be known. However there are several methods to know it.

2- If you have a camera to take pictures, take pictures of:
Relay carrier
Light Switch connector (both sides, to see the colors of the wires)
Dimmer connector (to see the slots and colors of the wires)
DRLs button connector (to see the wires)
Fuse box
New BCM
Front and Rear of your Fabia, to know exactly what lights are currently installed.

VASILEIOS1972 wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:50 pm
Hello my friend again, those screen shots are from my bcm and as you can see it is compatible with rain-light sensor

so it is not needed to change bcm for those sensors am I right?
Your BCM High supports the rain sensor, but does not support the light sensor (both are integrated in one piece).
Your BCM High does not support automatic lights, CH/LH, etc. (regardless of whether the VCDS label shows the Bits descriptions)

As you already know the BCM Max installation and wiring adaption is necessary. (previous to the wiring for automatic lights)
VASILEIOS1972 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:04 pm
Do i need the second relay for fog lights? Because my wife's Car in the place of fog lights has daylights with interior button .
Regards
vv
It is a detail to consider when configuring the new wiring. I remember seeing in the diagrams the button for the DRLs in the Skoda Fabia PQ25 (when DRLs were not mandatory yet), my problem is that I don't have these diagrams now. If you have them, please post them here. (DRLs)
A second relay would not be necessary for fog lights.

Maybe, and I'm just saying maybe, this wiring :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=56&p=558839#p558804 would be perfect for your Fabia once you've adapted the BCM Max and installed the light sensor.
I don't have the slightest intention of trying to sell it to you, it's just information.

---
Sorry for not answering before, ... you know what I told you about the months of July and August.

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by ciclo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:15 am

VASILEIOS1972 wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:34 pm
i figured out your instructions , so I write the complete wiring above ,please if you see something wrong please tell me

From 17 pin connector to 10 pin connector and 2 pin connector

Pin 1 -> pin 1 from - 2 pin plug
Pin 2 -> pin 1 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 3-> pin 2 from - 10 pin plug
Pin 4- > pin 2 from- 2 pin plug
Pin 9-> pin 4 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 10-> pin 5 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 11-> pin 6 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 15-> pin 7 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 16-> pin 8 from- 10 pin plug
Pin 17-> pin 9 from- 10 pin plug

From 10 pin plug-connector to 10 pin lights(new) connector + relay
Pin 2-> pin 9 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 4-> pin 7 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 5-> pin 6 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 5-> pin 2 relay fog lights
Pin 6-> pin 1 from - 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 7-> pin 8 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 7-> pin 3 relay head lights
Pin 8-> pin 3 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 9-> pin 10 from- 10 pin plug (lights)
• Pin 1-> pin 3- relay fog lights

From 2 pin plug to 10 pin plug (lights) + head lights relay
Pin 1 -> pin 4 from 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 2-> pin 5 relay (head lights)

From BCM (A) BLACK connector to 10 pin plug ( lights) + head lights relay
Pin 1 -> pin 1 relay (head lights )
Pin 37-> pin 2 from 10 pin plug (lights)

Relay (head lights) 646
Pin 1-> BCM (A) connector black pin 1
Pin 2-> pin 2 relay (fog lights)
Pin 3-> pin 7 from 10 pin plug (lights)
Pin 5-> pin 2 from 2 pin plug

Relay (fog lights) 646
Pin1-> pin 5 from 10 pin plug lights
Pin2->pin 5 from 10 pin plug
Pin3-> pin 1 from 10 pin plug
Pin5-> ********************
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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:45 am

ciclo wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:03 am
1- Post a full autoscan, with the VIN so that I know with total certainty what is the year of manufacture of your Fabia. (I guess it's a 2011/2012 due to the BCM High model, but I don't live on assumptions for this).
You can cross out (xxxxx) the last five digits of the VIN if you don't want your ID to be known. However there are several methods to know it.

2- If you have a camera to take pictures, take pictures of:
Relay carrier
Light Switch connector (both sides, to see the colors of the wires)
Dimmer connector (to see the slots and colors of the wires)
DRLs button connector (to see the wires)
Fuse box
New BCM
Front and Rear of your Fabia, to know exactly what lights are currently installed.

VASILEIOS1972 wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:50 pm
Hello my friend again, those screen shots are from my bcm and as you can see it is compatible with rain-light sensor

so it is not needed to change bcm for those sensors am I right?
Your BCM High supports the rain sensor, but does not support the light sensor (both are integrated in one piece).
Your BCM High does not support automatic lights, CH/LH, etc. (regardless of whether the VCDS label shows the Bits descriptions)

As you already know the BCM Max installation and wiring adaption is necessary. (previous to the wiring for automatic lights)
VASILEIOS1972 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:04 pm
Do i need the second relay for fog lights? Because my wife's Car in the place of fog lights has daylights with interior button .
Regards
vv
It is a detail to consider when configuring the new wiring. I remember seeing in the diagrams the button for the DRLs in the Skoda Fabia PQ25 (when DRLs were not mandatory yet), my problem is that I don't have these diagrams now. If you have them, please post them here. (DRLs)
A second relay would not be necessary for fog lights.

Maybe, and I'm just saying maybe, this wiring :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=56&p=558839#p558804 would be perfect for your Fabia once you've adapted the BCM Max and installed the light sensor.
I don't have the slightest intention of trying to sell it to you, it's just information.

---
Sorry for not answering before, ... you know what I told you about the months of July and August.
Hello my friend and thank you very much for the quick response

My intention was to sell me the complete kit and not trying to find the way from the beginning

At the afternoon Greek time I will send what you asked me to send

Best regards

VV

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:56 pm

Hello my friend for the beginning my autoscan above
Thursday,18,July,2019,20:10:58:38567
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: MT SKODA SERVICE
Workshop Code: 231 44700 072242

VIN: TMBEP25XXXXXXXXXX License Plate:
Mileage: 65430km-40656miles Repair Order: rls retrofit



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Chassis Type: 5J-SK25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 37 44 56

VIN: TMBEP25XXXXXXXXXX Mileage: 65430km-40656miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAVE) Labels:. 03C-907-309-V1.clb
Part No SW: 03C 906 027 CE HW: 03C 906 027 CE
Component: 1.4l R4 TSI H15 9971
Revision: L2H15--- Serial number:
Coding: 00250012002400000000
Shop #: WSC 53850 001 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TSI01103C906027CE 001013
ROD: EV_ECM14TSI01103C906027CE.rod
VCID: 66C3ED1499F16A7F03-8032

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
Part No SW: 0AM 300 060 A HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component: GSG DSG AG7 431 6563
Revision: 00043014 Serial number: TFK01108310139
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 53850 001 1048576
VCID: 285FA32C9B65BC0FF1-807C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AL HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001
Revision: --------
Coding: 410148DB437300B3822712E9C2D200411700
Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00049
VCID: 081FC3ACBFA59C0FD1-805C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6Q0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 5J0 907 044 C HW: 5J0 907 044 C
Component: Climatronic H08 0103
Revision: K0000000
VCID: 2A5B592445698E1FE7-807E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R7 937 087 H HW: 6R7 937 087 H
Component: PQ25 BCM H12 0022
Revision: -1------ Serial number: 1002480801
Coding: 7A980B3848010000013800403E2B1BC000C0421F600000000000
Shop #: WSC 44700 231 72242
VCID: 499906A8E02FA5070E-801C

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AG Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 090211 055 55 0403
Coding: 4630BB

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 M HW: 6R0 959 801 M Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3211
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 020000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 P HW: 6R0 959 802 P Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3211
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 020000

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537 E HW: 3T0 959 537 E
Component: E221__MFL-URO H07 0012
Serial number: 2164426
Coding: 810000

Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 D HW: 6R0 959 811 D
Component: J388__TSG_HL 002 3211
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 020000

Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 D HW: 6R0 959 812 D
Component: J389__TSG_HR 002 3211
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 020000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:. 7E0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 S HW: 7N0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0210
Revision: -------- Serial number: 28261530202208
Coding: 108101
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001011
ROD: N/A
VCID: 428B1184D519765FCF-8016

No ASAM data for: "EV_VW75XParkAssis8K" (SK25)
No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10AirbagT20 H09 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX00UUUCP
Coding: 003230
Shop #: WSC 13765 790 00049
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
VCID: 4A9B39A4ED29AE1F07-801E

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3495RRB40590NHDIJH62

Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3505RRB40590NHDIAOG2

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 5J0 920 841 F HW: 5J0 920 841 F
Component: KOMBI H04 0305
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 120C01
Shop #: WSC 44700 231 72242
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 2D5152387C87992702-8078

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 6R7 937 087 H
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0022
Revision: -1------
Coding: 032200
Shop #: WSC 44700 231 72242
VCID: 70EF8B4CA335B4CF69-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0305
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: 6ADB99248DE94E1F27-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794) Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
Part No SW: 5JA 035 193 E HW: 5JA 035 193 E
Component: RNS315-EU H85 0501
Serial number: SKZAZ2R0659899
Coding: 040004110400000000000001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
VCID: 3A7B6964BDC93E9F97-806E

Data medium:
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866
Component: EUR_W_V11 0073

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11241
Shop #: WSC 13765
VCID: 2F6D4830EA8BEB3730-807A

No fault code found.

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Re: Auto lights retrofit

Post by VASILEIOS1972 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:02 pm

Relay carrier 8E0937527
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