1.4 petrol engine noise

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Re: 1.4 petrol engine noise

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Yeah beginning to think that or the service intervals were not as stated, either way not good, keep being told should be OK and just keep driving it but not keen on it seizing on me...not sure whether to get it looked at i.e. bottom ends ect. Or get a recon engine ... Either considerable cost I could do without.
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Re: 1.4 petrol engine noise

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Does the engine quieten down when hot ?

If you have a serious bottom end problem I would have thought the noise would happen both hot and cold.
One check would be to see how good the oil pressure is,might be possible to slave in an oil pressure gauge - worn big end or main bearings would usually give low oil pressure as a symptom .
There is a wireless dongle thing which plugs into the OBD port and gives you live engine operating parameters onto mobile phone,I am not sure if it gives an oil pressure readout or if it just registers oil press warning light out.
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Re: 1.4 petrol engine noise

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Crikey that's handy to know will look into that, she definatly is quieter once warm, still clatters a little if you accelerate anymore than a little steady acceleration but will check it out thanks again.
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Re: 1.4 petrol engine noise

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I would not think that you would get much from reading data from the OBD2 port - the oil pressure switch is just a switch, so you would need to add in an oil pressure gauge to find out what the oil pressure is. Have you asked a VW or SEAT dealership what they think about what you consider to be an unusual noise or noise level - they would be the ones to say if it is normal or excessive in their experience.
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Yep think that's a better idea there are couple of VAG specialist around Chichester so will give them a call and get it checked out.

Many thanks
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RUM4MO wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:23 pm Fuchs oils okay and VW Group them at factory, though Quantum is it Platinum is also usually available online at a good price, Castrol oils tend to be over priced for what they are.
Fuchs categorically do NOT supply VW Group factories. Castrol is the only engine oil factory supplier across the entire range of VW Group brands - even Lambo and the mighty Veyron are factory filled with Castrol. As for Fuchs - they have ZERO factory fill contracts for any car maker!

As for Castrol being expensive - that is because they provide the full R&D to all VW Group, BMW, and many more. Fuchs are considerably cheaper because they are inferior products compared to Castrol. Fuchs has a very poor record in automotive engine oil development - they are only as good as what they are now due to them purchasing the supreme quality Silkolene brand from the UK.
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Well someone has got it wrong, as far as I have read in recent months Castrol's contract was not renewed, if what you are saying is true, very many people have been misinformed over Fuchs for at least for the past 20 years. I did know that Fuchs own the Silkolene brand name though, although I'm not sure that using the Concorde outline on their oils did much for me, even although Concorde was a bit special!
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RUM4MO wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:58 pm Well someone has got it wrong, as far as I have read in recent months Castrol's contract was not renewed,
Someone is crossing their wires. The 'Castrol contract' has nothing to do with the either the factory fill arrangement, nor the VW Group OEM lubricants R&D programme.

The 'Castrol contract' which was not renewed is actually a Volkswagen Group UK contract regarding their 'own brand' Quantum lubricants and consumables programme (and is categorically NOT approved or endorsed by VW Group in Germany). The Quantum brand is ONLY authorised for use (a) as a non-genuine aftermarket product, and (b) to be used by ONLY independent workshops. Quantum should NEVER be used in any official VW / Audi / Seat / Skoda workshop, as they will be in breach of unlawfully using non-genuine parts.

The real reason why VW Group UK dropped Castrol is simply because Castrol supplied Quantum branded engine oils that were certified by VW Germany. Sounds perfect, doesn't it? The crux of the issue is that VW Group UK, via their TPS network, have just gotten extremely greedy. TPS management aside, there are a lot of TPS staff (especially those who are die-hard VAG enthusiasts) are very angry over VW UKs decision to ditch long-term Castrol OEM partner (and still official factory fill provider) for Fuchs - who frankly have a poor reputation, and very low brand awareness in the UK. The actual rationale for VW UK switching to Fuchs to fill its Quantum bottles is because VW Group UK are now instructing TPS to supply ALL MAKES. That means that TPS are now chasing Ford, Citroen, Renault, Fiat, Jeep, Volvo, Honda, Nissan, Toybota, Hyundai, Kia - basically every vehicle manufacturer on the planet who sells in the UK market. Castrol refused to supply non-VW approved oils to what they pertain as a VW Group only business. Fuchs, who have no such scruples, happily stepped in.
RUM4MO wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:58 pm if what you are saying is true, very many people have been misinformed over Fuchs for at least for the past 20 years.
Not by me. Sadly, it is by the likes of Opie Oils who peddle this trash. And the reason is simple - Opie (and other Fuchs agents) get better mark-up on Fuchs compared to say Castrol, Shell, Elf, Motul - so they can and do make bigger profits by selling Fuchs compared to Castrol and the other majors.
RUM4MO wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:58 pm I did know that Fuchs own the Silkolene brand name though, although I'm not sure that using the Concorde outline on their oils did much for me, even although Concorde was a bit special!
Silkolene are something very special indeed. One of the genuine pioneers in synthetic lubricants, and are extremely highly rated in both motorcycling circles, and also motorsport. Their oils are genuinely amazing - but they knew where their expertise was, and stuck with it. Fuchs were a nobody until they bought out Silkolene, and therefore the intellectual property of Silkolene. Unfortunately, for the less well informed, Fuchs are relying on the Silkolene IP, and attempting to pass it off as their own in their own Fuchs car oils.
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Re: 1.4 petrol engine noise

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I just picked up 5 litres of Quantum Platinum (which I understand is Fuchs) 5W 40 from TPS for £11 plus VAT. At that price I'm wondering what is in it.
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littlepolo wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:26 pm I just picked up 5 litres of Quantum Platinum (which I understand is Fuchs) 5W 40 from TPS for £11 plus VAT. At that price I'm wondering what is in it.
Remember "Quantum" is just the general brand name or rebranding name given to service items being sold as aftermarket stuff at VW Group dealers parts departments, so which every oil company last won the contract to supply VW Group aftermarket engine oil, and sometimes that is Fuchs, will be in that tin.

Personally I think that you will find that there are quite a lot of people running their VW Group cars on Quantum oils, certainly I used Quantum Synta Gold when it existed, for my VW cars from just out warranty to 13 years 85K and 105K miles, after Quantum Gold was dropped/superceded by Platinum, I moved to Fuchs, so maybe 13 years 85K and 105K miles was really 7 and 9 years Quantum Synta Gold and the remaining 6 and 4 years we owned these cars used Fuchs 5W-30 fully syn to the same VW oil specs, which has been again superceded. Currently any of my VW Group cars that are out of warranty are being filled with Mobil 1 5W-30 ESP mainly down to the supplying Audi dealer using that on the first oil service that my S4 had prior to me buying it, next official oil service by my local Audi dealership might have been Shell as it was a 0W-30.

I've never been brave enough to test the waters at my local TPS, just in case I'm chased out the door as not being "trade".
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