ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Post by **ciclo** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:53 pm

Kiogen,

Your real problem is that your current BCM does not have the necessary pins (T73a / 1, T73a / 2, T73a / 63, T73a / 37, T73b / 1, T73b / 2, T73b / 68, etc ...) to manage automatic lights.

Conclusion, you need to change the BCM and the electrical original wires configuration.

I can not see the images from your previous reply.

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To everyone:

I can not answer all the emails I have received (a issue of time)... I'm so sorry ... Please be patient, I have read all them (this is a crazy

), everything is controlled and managed.
Tomorrow it also is impossible, I'm traveling.

Thanks for your patience and understanding.

Kiogen · Post by **Kiogen** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:02 pm

ciclo wrote:Kiogen,

Your real problem is that your current BCM does not have the necessary pins (T73a / 1, T73a / 2, T73a / 63, T73a / 37, T73b / 1, T73b / 2, T73b / 68, etc ...) to manage automatic lights.

Conclusion, you need to change the BCM and the electrical original wires configuration.

I can not see the images from your previous reply.

-----------------

To everyone:

I can not answer all the emails I have received (a issue of time)... I'm so sorry ... Please be patient, I have read all them (this is a crazy ), everything is controlled and managed.
Tomorrow it also is impossible, I'm traveling.

Thanks for your patience and understanding.

I will remove my BCM again as soon as i can, i have the T73a/37 present and i have a wire there already that i fit, i dont remember if i have all the others but next time i will take a picture, the BCM is not a problem for me as i can get another one any time, i just want to know if im going in the right direction as i want to make all the wiring changes before fitting a new BCM.

i think that the images are already working

Post by **ciclo** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:50 am

Kiogen wrote: I will remove my BCM again as soon as i can, i have the T73a/37 present and i have a wire there already that i fit, i dont remember if i have all the others but next time i will take a picture, the BCM is not a problem for me as i can get another one any time, i just want to know if im going in the right direction as i want to make all the wiring changes before fitting a new BCM.
i think that the images are already working

....

ciclo wrote:
Conclusion, you need to change the BCM and the electrical original wires configuration.

Bachecco · Post by **Bachecco** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:07 am

ciclo wrote:
CNK wrote:
ciclo wrote:6R GTI, BlueGT and R-line have different fog lamps.

Check it in ETKA online.
Yes, Fog lights with DRL — Polo 6R R-Line: 6R0 941 061 E + 6R0 941 062 E (https://www.drive2.ru/l/458163472711033418/)
Thanks CNK.

IIRC Bachecco has bixenon headlights ...
In such case: Polo 6R R-Line: 6R0 941 061 F + 6R0 941 062 F (on eBay.de there is a good deal)

thank you very much, I have bixenon headlights, then I will buy the new fog

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Post by **ciclo** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:15 pm

TPMS (info) only

Previously... (excellent info)

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=2835#p516356

Now... (Found by Adam87 in ETKA)

AMAROK 2018 (preliminary study)

7K3 -- (RDK) Tire pressure control, frequency 433 MHz high level version

I suppose it will also be necessary to edit the unit/EEPROM for the wheel sizes.

Similar to this

Post by **ciclo** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:11 pm

7E0937090B

Works like a charm... with Bixenon Headlights. All functions: All functions that worked with the previous 7E0937090 BCM. NEW? Still to be discovered, something

I have seen in the Gateway and BCM adaptation channels... this first contact was only for its installation and check its correct operation.

Code: Select all

Saturday,21,January,2017,14:10:32:06516
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.1.2
Data version: 20170107 DS267.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY0CICLO   License Plate: 7E0937090B
Mileage:    Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2E 37 44 55 56 77 0B

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY0CICLO   Mileage: 

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZC)       Labels: 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 GD    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 5466  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 001100D6202400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070GD 004007
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
   VCID: 6A5F3A240F181F97E7-803E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BE    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3216D00B5842814EA84D300401700
   Shop #: WSC 40308 002 104857
   VCID: 02F70AFC63E08FBF27-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels: 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 08021613470174
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7E6B12607F7C972307-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H11 0711  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 3821A69E5F1E4B3577-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 B    HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H81 0744  
   Revision: B9081001    Serial number: 0982 320160060
   Coding: 3CB02FBF48E1240093380ED1FCEB9FD1DAC067AF600D30D0200000030800
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 2A1FBA6407D89F57E7-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B
   Component: RLS 110215 03  37  0059 
   Coding: 0728DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8612 
   Serial number: KU0KU003041440937042
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8612 
   Serial number: KU0KU006031440656541
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H03 0103 
   Serial number: 27140003142720054516
   Coding: A4FFFF

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU003051200017821
   Coding: 18BC32

   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU010051200012315
   Coding: 18BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 C    HW: 7E0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 47361212601014
   Coding: 308001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
   ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 3E2B92A07F3C17E307-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX01JKVVP
   Coding: 00314D
   Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4A3F7AC48F78DFB7E7-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB405N1C4LI7929

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB405B1D5MS8GS2

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405B17ABS901.

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405B181TUDPKC

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 C    HW: 6R0 920 870 C
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 00233 572 91226
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3522A0875BE159204F-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744  
   Revision: B9081001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 6851462E1FEE2B85F7-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels: 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G    HW: 7E0 857 511 E
   Component: FLA           H10 0003  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 0404001C00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 03607 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
   VCID: 2E1BB2703FCC777387-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A5F3A240F181F97E7-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0530  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7662584630    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2A1FBA6407D89F57E7-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H06 5218  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
   Coding: 04000442040000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3720A49D5B1B4D327F-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V14  8477 

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11250
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F18B475AFC37D7ABF-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0112000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 7760245D535BCD727F-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H06 5218  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
   Coding: 04000442040000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3720A49D5B1B4D327F-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V14  8477 

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L    HW: 7P6 035 730 L
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664158506
   Coding: 0501000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3B2C9CA9430F25CE1F-806E

No fault code found.

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My thanks to firegrafik who made the necessary arrangements and much more. Excellent!

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Kiogen · Post by **Kiogen** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:24 pm

ciclo wrote:
Conclusion, you need to change the BCM and the electrical original wires configuration.

today i took my BCM out again, it confirms what Ciclo said, my BCM doesnt have the necessary pins, the other time i took it out i've mistaken myself when counting the pins as it was the first time messing with this kind of stuff, now i can see the missing pins with much ease.
im now trying to fully understand elsawin schematics and only i'll ask something if im really out of options/ideas.

Post by **ciclo** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:19 pm

Kiogen

The basic principle is the same (J331 relay)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... ZQN1U/view , but your fuses are different (other numbering)
You do not have to make the wiring for Automatic lights (from 17 to 10 pin) because the Seat Ibiza have a 17-pin Light Switch with the 'AUTO' function.

Do not hesitate to ask if you have problems with the diagrams.

You must keep in mind that the final result is a combination between the wires correctly installed and BCM coding.

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Edit, more info:

You do not have to modify the original wiring installation of your front fog lamps (T17/8).

You also need the Additiotinal Relay (J828) for headlights - search on elsawin this relay-

For the rest of the Wires/Pins/Slots also look here:

Kiogen · Post by **Kiogen** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:43 pm

So, if im not wrong you're comparing on the same year but different PR codes? 7L3 are for cars without start/stop like mine, 7L6 are cars with start/stop, does it mean that every car with start/stop got "AUTO"?

Today i've made some printscreening on ELSA, so that i can see how big the differences are and i think i've got a decent JPEG with only the wires that i have to add or modify, can you check it?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6FlhY ... sp=sharing

Does the PDF guide that you post only serves for polo or if i follow it will also work?

The thing confuses me is when there are multiple wires in the same spot, like fuse SC7b that right now is connected to A88 that is connected to T6/6 and T32/13.
When doing the changes i should add a wire from A88 to T73a/6 right?
But if following the SC7a it connects to T17/9 right now i must also add a wire from T73b/43?

Post by **ciclo** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:49 am

Example for rear fog light:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2nv9 ... ExRMlR2VlU

Kiogen wrote:So, if im not wrong you're comparing on the same year but different PR codes? Yes
7L3 are for cars without start/stop like mine, 7L6 are cars with start/stop, does it mean that every car with start/stop got "AUTO"? The explanation would be too long ... Three years of knowledges.
Depends on the equipment installed, Model Year, etc...

Today i've made some printscreening on ELSA, so that i can see how big the differences are and i think i've got a decent JPEG with only the wires that i have to add or modify, can you check it?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6FlhY ... sp=sharing

It's OK but no it's full (DRLs, Coming home from factory -Relay/control unit J665-?), you must open a new topic in the Ibiza section. Example: Kiogen's Ibiza SC 2.0TDI
Post there all possible info, pictures from your Ibiza, Autoscan, etc ... Please, also post the pictures of connectors, relay carrier, fusebox, etc ... (logically, I'm not soothsayer ). It is necessary to know the factory equipment that your Ibiza has installed and that it is not possible to know it with the Autoscan because it depends on other factors. (MY, mods, etc...). For example, I can guess that the xenon headlight model has changed over the years in your Ibiza model, right?

If you have patience and time this will be solved. We'll do the same like example above with all lights.

Does the PDF guide that you post only serves for polo (yes) or if i follow it will also work? No

The thing confuses me is when there are multiple wires in the same spot, like fuse SC7b that right now is connected to A88 that is connected to T6/6 and T32/13.
When doing the changes i should add a wire from A88 to T73a/6 right?
But if following the SC7a it connects to T17/9 right now i must also add a wire from T73b/43?
Look the above example.

Please, post here the link to your new topic.

seinarith nou · Post by **seinarith nou** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:43 am

Hello ciclo I would buy AUTO lights. CH / LH. OEM. I live in France . I could pay by paypal thank you cordially

Post by **ciclo** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:08 am

seinarith nou wrote:Hello ciclo I would buy AUTO lights. CH / LH. OEM. I live in France . I could pay by paypal thank you cordially

Hello seinarith nou. Welcome.

Ok, but first, please, can you send me a VCDS autoscan to my email? Thank you.

...and please read here

A- Automatic lights wiring + CH/LH for you to know the price, shipping details, installation guide, tool, etc ...

Kiogen · Post by **Kiogen** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:16 pm

Thank you very much ciclo, you have been very helpfull.

I don't think the xenon has changed, there are 3 different headlights. Mine, one with half black background and other with full black background, then came the facelift that has a completly different headlight with LED drl, mine are halogen drl.
But not 100%sure.

I do have CH on mine but have to flash the highbeam before opening the door. My CH uses the fogs.

Im working on the Ibiza topic, just need to take some pictures then will leave the link.

Post by **ciclo** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:24 pm

Kiogen wrote:Thank you very much ciclo, you have been very helpfull.

I don't think the xenon has changed, there are 3 different headlights. Mine, one with half black background and other with full black background, then came the facelift that has a completly different headlight with LED drl, mine are halogen drl.
But not 100%sure.

Right. They were changed to LED drl's from February 2012.

Kiogen wrote: I do have CH on mine but have to flash the highbeam before opening the door. My CH uses the fogs.

The function of the relay/control unit J665 can be managed by the BCM Max. So you will have to remove this relay, it will have to be studied carefully.
CH function is also semiautomatic with the BCM Max (in the same way). Only LH function is automatic, apart from the Automatic Lights.

Kiogen wrote: Im working on the Ibiza topic, just need to take some pictures then will leave the link.

Excellent! I'll subscribe. It is something new and very interesting.

Post by **iichel** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:18 am

I'll have you know that it took me the best part of three years to figure out that 'ciclo' is basically 'bike' in English.

And I have a t-shirt and a pillow with a bike on it. And secretly a headwarmer with "I [heart] [bike]'.

I guess I'm secretly a big fan....

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