ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

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ciclo wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:03 am Important note (for some of you)

Where it says August 16, 2017 :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=62&t=69223&p=516196#p516196

Please, help, from all those who resquested to buy my wires (by email, private message or in the forum) for BCM Max adaptation and automatic lights. (while I was on vacation or before)

I can't find your topics with the required information. Please link me to them. Many thanks.
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

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Hello ciclo
My name is Edino and I've been up to now all the work you did on your wonderful car
Can I ask you an information please?
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Hello edinogti, welcome. Thank you for your comment.

Of course, ask what you need to know.
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

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I've just bought a new user cluster - could that be the solution of the RDK problem not showing in the cluster?

Now I just have find someone in Denmark to change the eeprom so it starts to look like a Polo :)

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Do you have a way to read the eeprom yourself? I can set the picture in the cluster for you, bigger problem is the immobiliser


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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

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Reading eeprom from cluster is easy, i.e. with an eeprom clip and ezp2013. Vcp can read a lot of modules but not sure about the ability of reading the cluster.
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As I know, clusters manufactured after June of 2014 gets new level of the EEPROM protection, so It is very high possibility this cluster doesn't have separate EEPROM chip. And the EEPROM exists in the cluster's CPU and it cannot be read out with clip and programmer
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Adam87 wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:15 am Do you have a way to read the eeprom yourself? I can set the picture in the cluster for you, bigger problem is the immobiliser
Of cource I've have to find someone to take care of the immobiliser :)
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diskoboy wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:04 am I've just bought a new user cluster - could that be the solution of the RDK problem not showing in the cluster?

Now I just have find someone in Denmark to change the eeprom so it starts to look like a Polo :)

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I'll try it, but with older software for the TPMS unit, it will be towards the end of September ... I guess ...Haha.

We have the software for D,B TPMS units ... FL_3AA907273___0010 and ___0008 (Down20)

FL_3AA907273___0008
http://assets.suredone.com/2525/media-p ... 11-12.jpeg
FL_3AA907273___0010
https://a.d-cd.net/3561f04s-960.jpg

If you search multiple Autoscans (many) with these TPMS units you can see the correspondence with instrument cluster software.

Good luck. We have to discover this mystery. :wink:
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FL_3AA907273___0010 SGO, failed attempt with VCP (original), I guess due to TPMS unit hardware incompatibility. :lol:

3AA 907 273 H -------- H04 0012 (installed)
3AA 907 273 D -------- H09 0010

Code: Select all

Thursday,24,August,2017,12:40:30:06516
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY0CICLO   License Plate: FL_3AA907273___0010 SGO
Mileage: 25700km-15969mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2E 37 44 55 56 65 77 0B

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY0CICLO   Mileage: 25700km-15969miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZC)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 GD    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 5466  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 001100D6202400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070GD 004007
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
   VCID: 6A1F7AE4CFD85FD076-803E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BE    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3216D00B5842814EA84D300401700
   Shop #: WSC 40308 002 104857
   VCID: 02B74ABC23A0CFF836-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 08021613470174
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X_VW25.rod
   VCID: 7E2B52203F3CD76416-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H11 0711  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 38E1E65E1FDE8B72E6-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 C    HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 4000 122170091
   Coding: 3CB02FBF48E32400B3380F916CEB9FDCDAC0672F600D30D0200000030800
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2BDCFC39CB9FC5998E-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 547 
   Component: RLHS 220816 0  42  0106 
   Coding: 0728DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8612 
   Serial number: KU0KU003041440937042
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8612 
   Serial number: KU0KU006031440656541
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H03 0103 
   Serial number: 27140003142720054516
   Coding: A4FFFF

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU003051200017821
   Coding: 18BC32

   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU010051200012315
   Coding: 18BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 C    HW: 7E0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 47361212601014
   Coding: 308001
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
   ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 3EEBD2603FFC572416-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX01JKVVP
   Coding: 00314D
   Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4AFFBA844F381FF076-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB405N1C4LI7929

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB405B1D5MS8GS2

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405B17ABS901.

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405B181TUDPKC

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 C    HW: 6R0 920 870 C
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 219 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 35E2E0471BA19967DE-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 681186EEDFAE6BC266-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:. 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G    HW: 7E0 857 511 E
   Component: FLA           H10 0003  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 0404001C00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 03607 002 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 2EDBF230FF8CB7B496-807A

No ASAM data for: "EV_HighBeamAssisAU316" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0607  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A1F7AE4CFD85FD076-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0530  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7662584630    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2ADFFA24C798DF9076-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H06 5218  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
   Coding: 04000442040000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 37E0E45D1BDB8D75EE-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V14  8477 

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11221
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2FD8F4356F83BDBDAE-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0112000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 7720641D131B0DB5EE-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L    HW: 1T0 035 680 C
   Component: RNS-MID       H06 5218  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
   Coding: 04000442040000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 37E0E45D1BDB8D75EE-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V14  8477 

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 H    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
   Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0012  
   Serial number: 30000000034843
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 006001
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_003.rod
   VCID: 39EED8530BD5717BFE-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L    HW: 7P6 035 730 L
   Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664158506
   Coding: 0501000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
   ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
   VCID: 3BECDC6903CF65090E-806E

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:29)--------------------------
Without a new ignition cycle, therefore no fault in IC due to the TPMS unit (65 Address).

As I read more topics related to this issue more confusing is everything and also by other hand the new VCDS label for TPMS units behaves differently... :lol:
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but the big question, is there anything in the MFD+? :mrgreen:
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nothing... no magic :lol:
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That's a shame, you would think regardless they would mostly speak the same language/protocol and at least show something. Good effort [emoji106]


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that cluster SW version 10xx can only be code Online via Dealer.
there is no tool for cluster made after 2014
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Adam87 wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:29 am That's a shame, you would think regardless they would mostly speak the same language/protocol and at least show something. Good effort [emoji106]
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Despite I known that the hardware for H and D units was different, I did the test (flash) for curiosity, you know... [emoji23]


Apart: (a little compilation)

With the TPMS unit 3AA907273F I did all kinds of tests, different codings for the ABS unit, BCM adaptation channels (test/error), etc... Nothing to write home about.
As for IC coding, seems that it does not matter if Byte2 Bit0 is enabled or disabled, it is enabled for indirect TPMS (in some VW cars the direct and indirect TPMS work at the same time). rdasadia click did the test with his IC and his direct TPMS worked equally, without vcds faults, the most curious thing is that he does not have indirect TPMS from factory :lol: . In Amarok 2018 it is disabled.

I also installed the TPMS unit slightly to the right on the rear bumper. Explanation: with the TPMS unit in rear bumper centre the sensors/valves were read in VCDS from right to the left (FR,RR,RL,FL), when I installed the TPMS unit slightly to the right on the rear bumper were read from the left to the right (FL,RL,RR,FR).
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3450#p522430

And everything that is already known... upload wheels parameters zdc with VCP, by using Skoda Pilot tool and also from web link to generate the .zdc files viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3435#p522112(with comfort, without comfort, with Individual, without Individual), modifying the pressures in adaptation channels of the TPMS unit, etc ... in short, a wall.


I never had Car /bars-strips --- / Pressures on my MFA+. :cry: :lol:


Now I am looking for a TPMS unit 3AA907273 B or D that has already been in use in another car ... to test.
Due to viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3525#p523609
If the tests were positive with this used unit I would buy a new one at the VW dealership.

TPMS units B and D are still for sale (they have not been replaced, ETKA), which means that they are specific to a IC software, wheel size, etc ...
The sensors/valves 3AA907275F are good for the TPMS units 3AA907273 B, D, F and H, they replace to the previous ones according ETKA.
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