ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
So, I gave it a try, but VCDS will throw the following error: Coding rejected / Error 31: Request out of range" while setting the new coding.
My WRMs are in a Seat Ibiza 6J (PQ25) and also used in the Skoda Fabia 5J. But you've mentioned the Jetta and the Amarok and after some research I found out that they have the same problem..
The new Ibiza 6P (MQB) WRMs do support auto folding with car lock and have the part numbers "6R0 959 801 DT / 6R0 959 802 EE" - but I suppose that there are the same problems on my Ibiza 6J (PQ25) as with the Polo 6C (MQB) WRMs "6R0 959 801 CE / 6R0 959 802 CJ" which won't support auto folding when locking the car in the Polo 6R (PQ25) either. (The "6R0 959 801 BD / 6R0 959 802 BF" can't be ordered any more for the Polo 6R and have been exchanged to "6R0 959 801 CE / 6R0 959 802 CJ" with loosing auto fold via car lock...)
Thank you for the link to the video - unfortunately PQ25 WRM can't be accessed via channel 42 separately and can only be reached at channel 09 as subsystem of the BCM. So there is no chance to change EEPROM values with VCP right now AFAIK.
My WRMs are in a Seat Ibiza 6J (PQ25) and also used in the Skoda Fabia 5J. But you've mentioned the Jetta and the Amarok and after some research I found out that they have the same problem..
The new Ibiza 6P (MQB) WRMs do support auto folding with car lock and have the part numbers "6R0 959 801 DT / 6R0 959 802 EE" - but I suppose that there are the same problems on my Ibiza 6J (PQ25) as with the Polo 6C (MQB) WRMs "6R0 959 801 CE / 6R0 959 802 CJ" which won't support auto folding when locking the car in the Polo 6R (PQ25) either. (The "6R0 959 801 BD / 6R0 959 802 BF" can't be ordered any more for the Polo 6R and have been exchanged to "6R0 959 801 CE / 6R0 959 802 CJ" with loosing auto fold via car lock...)
Thank you for the link to the video - unfortunately PQ25 WRM can't be accessed via channel 42 separately and can only be reached at channel 09 as subsystem of the BCM. So there is no chance to change EEPROM values with VCP right now AFAIK.
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Yes, everything you mention is right, the conclusion is that they only work with the 8 in the software (for the entire PQ25).
We also know (thanks to a good friend ) that you can also install the WRMs from Beetle or Cabrio:
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Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BF HW: 6R0 959 801 BF Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 004 8662
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BM HW: 6R0 959 802 BM Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 004 8662
but they have a fun behavior...
I love it...
We also know (thanks to a good friend ) that you can also install the WRMs from Beetle or Cabrio:
LHD
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BF HW: 6R0 959 801 BF Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 004 8662
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BM HW: 6R0 959 802 BM Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 004 8662
but they have a fun behavior...
I love it...
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
There is an explanation for this "fun behavior": The windows in the doors of the Beatle don't have a frame - so the window opens a litte bit when opening the door and closes completely when door has been closed.
Unfortunately the window mechanism in the Ibiza 6J/6P is working opposite to the one in the Polo 6R/6C - so the window is closing when it should open and vice versa when using Polo/Beetle WRMs...
Any chance that the Ibiza 6P MQB WRMs can be coded in some way so that the signal from the PQ25 BCM to unfold when ignition is turned on will be interpreted correctly?
Unfortunately the window mechanism in the Ibiza 6J/6P is working opposite to the one in the Polo 6R/6C - so the window is closing when it should open and vice versa when using Polo/Beetle WRMs...
Any chance that the Ibiza 6P MQB WRMs can be coded in some way so that the signal from the PQ25 BCM to unfold when ignition is turned on will be interpreted correctly?
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
There is one exception (so far) to the 8*** rule, the T5 7E0 959 801 K does not have enough pins and does not work, maybe some 6R ones are similar?ciclo wrote:Yes, everything you mention is right, the conclusion is that they only work with the 8 in the software (for the entire PQ25).
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
That's what I thought too! But my information from a german Polo forum is that neither VCDS nor VCP was able to find a coding that will change the behavior of the motor direction. (The manual mirror fold was also activated in "L" position then and not in "fold" position...)
If the internal WRM behavior can be changed by coding, then the Beetle WRM "fun behavior" should also be controlled by coding in theory!
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Play/test (activate/deactivate) with the bit3 and 4 of Byte2. One or other.Ferris wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:06 pmThat's what I thought too! But my information from a german Polo forum is that neither VCDS nor VCP was able to find a coding that will change the behavior of the motor direction. (The manual mirror fold was also activated in "L" position then and not in "fold" position...)
If the internal WRM behavior can be changed by coding, then the Beetle WRM "fun behavior" should also be controlled by coding in theory!
I'm afraid it's part of the EEPROM.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Hey Fernando [emoji3],you are most correct, as long as the pins are there and 8*** SW then it should work just fine.
With the WRM with odd behaviour, doesn’t the WRM detect different resistance dependent on switch position?
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
What is the mirrors switch reference number (part number)?
ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Thanks Fernando, great news I suppose [emoji3], I would like to have got ACC working like OEM, but best to have it working at least until that day [emoji4]ciclo wrote:Take a look here [emoji666] viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70884&start=30#p530790
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Hey ciclo
sorry for my late reply I have made a autoscan for you the car it`s a 2013 model.
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Lørdag,24,Februar,2018,15:47:32:63534
VCDS -- Windows baseret VAG/VAS emulator - Kører på Windows 10 x64
VCDS version: NEZ 18.2.0.3 HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Dataversion: 20180222 DS287.0
www.vcds.dk
Stelnummer: WVWZZZ6RZDY015110 Indreg.nr.:
Kørestrækning: 217920km Reparationsordre:
Modeltype: 6R-VW25 (6R0)
Søgt på: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 56 61
Stelnummer: WVWZZZ6RZDY015110 Kørestrækning: 217920km
01-Motor -- Status: Ok 0000
03-ABS bremser -- Status: Fejlfunktion 0010
04-Styrevinkel -- Status: Ok 0000
08-Klimaanlæg -- Status: Ok 0000
09-Centralelektrik -- Status: Ok 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Ok 0000
17-Instrument -- Status: Ok 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Ok 0000
25-Startspærre -- Status: Ok 0000
44-Servostyring -- Status: Ok 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Fejlfunktion 0010
61-Batteriregulering -- Status: Ok 0000
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Styreenhed 01: Motor (J623-CAYB) Forklaringsfil:. NEZ\03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 03L 906 023 ME HW: 03L 907 425 B
Komponent : R4 1.6l TDI H33 9978
Revision: --H33--- Serienummer:
Kodning : 00114016002401080000
Forhandler : WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM datasæt: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023ME 003014
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023PL.rod
VCID: 75B4E936E54EB44F51E-8020
Ingen fejlkoder fundet.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
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Styreenhed 03: ABS bremser (J104) Forklaringsfil:. NEZ\6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 907 379 BE HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Komponent : ESP8.2i front H05 0001
Revision: --------
Kodning : 210228E3416E00B7842614E382D100521300
Forhandler : WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 025E82EAA44093F764C-8056
1 fejl fundet:
02214 - Dæktrykadvarsel
002 - Under nedre grænseværdi - Periodisk
Fryseramme:
Fejl status : 00100010
Fejlprioritet: 0
Fejlhyppighed: 2
Nulstiltæller: 171
Kørestrækning: 217726 km
Tidsindikation: 0
Dato: 2012.07.13
Tid: 15:40:43
Fryseramme:
Hex værdi: 0x0000
Hex værdi: 0x8000
Hex værdi: 0x1203
Hex værdi: 0x2BBD
Hex værdi: 0x497F
Hex værdi: 0x7F7E
Hex værdi: 0x7F00
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Styreenhed 08: Klimaanlæg (J255) Forklaringsfil: NEZ\6R0-907-044.clb
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 907 044 H HW: 6R0 907 044 H
Komponent : Climatronic H11 0711
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 382A2002B25C09278A8-806C
Ingen fejlkoder fundet.
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Styreenhed 09: Centralelektrik (J519) Forklaringsfil:. NEZ\6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 937 088 F HW: 6R0 937 088
Komponent : BCM PQ25 Re4 H50 0353
Revision: BU050001 Serienummer: 0456 151120596
Kodning : 24B02BB80821000021300DF02D0B8FD05F80612F7E060049200000000000
Forhandler : WSC 12345 678 987654
VCID: 41DC4DE6E18648EF3D6-8014
Undersystem 1 - Styreenhedsnr:: 1K0 955 559 AH Forklaringsfil: NEZ\1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Komponent : RLS 230512 05 54 0403
Kodning : 03302D
Undersystem 2 - Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 959 801 AB HW: 6R0 959 801 AB Forklaringsfil: NEZ\6R0-959-801-1.CLB
Komponent : J386__TSG_FT 008 1611
Serienummer: KU0KU020051200010555
Kodning : 58BC30
Undersystem 3 - Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 959 802 AD HW: 6R0 959 802 AD Forklaringsfil: NEZ\6R0-959-802-1.CLB
Komponent : J387__TSG_BT 008 1611
Serienummer: KU0KU014051200013396
Kodning : 58BC30
Undersystem 4 - Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 959 811 G HW: 6R0 959 811 G
Komponent : J388__TSG_HL 008 1611
Serienummer: KU0KU014051200015077
Kodning : 58BC32
Undersystem 5 - Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 959 812 G HW: 6R0 959 812 G
Komponent : J389__TSG_HR 008 1611
Serienummer: KU0KU015051200016374
Kodning : 58BC32
Ingen fejlkoder fundet.
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Styreenhed 15: Airbags (J234) Forklaringsfil:| NEZ\5K0-959-655.clb
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 959 655 L HW: 6R0 959 655 L
Komponent : VW10Airbag01J H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serienummer: 003GY006KAHK
Kodning : 00314A
Forhandler : WSC 01383 785 00200
ASAM datasæt: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
VCID: 4BC06FCED34A92BFD7A-801E
Crashsensor til sideairbag i førerside:
Serienummer: 3575HRB405T1E4S2DGDW
Crashsensor til sideairbag i passagerside:
Serienummer: 3585HRB405V1E4S21PCV
Crashsensor til sideairbag bagi i førersiden:
Serienummer: 3515RRB405B18B74A0OZ
Crashsensor til sideairbag bagi i passagerside:
Serienummer: 3525RRB405318BCID991
Ingen fejlkoder fundet.
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Styreenhed 17: Instrument (J285) Forklaringsfil:| NEZ\5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 920 861 K HW: 6R0 920 861 K
Komponent : KOMBI H02 0305
Serienummer: 00000011763025
Kodning : 140E01
Forhandler : WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM datasæt: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25 A01720
ROD: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25_A01_VW25.rod
VCID: 3D2431169DFE2C0F59E-8068
Ingen fejlkoder fundet.
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Styreenhed 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Forklaringsfil:. NEZ\6R0-907-530-V2.clb
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 907 530 E HW: 1K0 907 951
Komponent : J533 Gateway H38 0041
Revision: H38 Serienummer: 110512F2001017
Kodning : 2500C2
Forhandler : WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 35342936A54EF44F91E-8060
Ingen fejlkoder fundet.
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Styreenhed 25: Startspærre (J285) Forklaringsfil:. NEZ\5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 920 861 K HW: 6R0 920 861 K
Komponent : IMMO H02 0015
Serienummer:
ASAM datasæt: EV_ImmobUDSJCIPQ25 A01003
ROD: EV_ImmobUDSJCIPQ25.rod
VCID: 3D2431169DFE2C0F59E-8068
Ingen fejlkoder fundet.
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Styreenhed 44: Servostyring Forklaringsfil: NEZ\6Q0-423-156.clb
Styreenhedsnr:: 6R0 423 156 C
Komponent : LenkhilfeTRW V278
Kodning : 11230
Forhandler : WSC 12787
VCID: 303A1822536CD167C28-8064
Ingen fejlkoder fundet.
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Styreenhed 56: Radio (J503) Forklaringsfil:. NEZ\5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 5M0 035 186 J HW: 5M0 035 186 J
Komponent : Radio RCD310 042 0082
Revision: 01000001 Serienummer: VWZ1Z2M4142398
Kodning : 05000400020001
Forhandler : WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 3330172EAB3AEA7FBFA-8066
1 fejl fundet:
00856 - Antenne - på radio
007 - Kortslutning til stel
Fryseramme:
Fejl status : 01100111
Fejlprioritet: 5
Fejlhyppighed: 1
Nulstiltæller: 135
Kørestrækning: 217920 km
Tidsindikation: 0
Dato: 2012.07.17
Tid: 15:44:48
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Styreenhed 61: Batteriregulering (J840) Forklaringsfil:. NEZ\1K0-907-534.clb
Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 907 534 HW: 1K0 907 951
Komponent : Batt.regelung H38 0041
Serienummer: 110512F2001017
Kodning : 030B1A59
Forhandler : WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 74B2D432EEB4AD47660-8020
Undersystem 1 - Styreenhedsnr: SW: 6R0 915 181 E HW: 6R0 915 181 E
Komponent : J367-BDM H08 0181
Serienummer: 00000000004970234865
Ingen fejlkoder fundet.
Slutning-(Forløbet tid: 01:13, VBat. start/slut: 11.6V/11.6V. VIgn 11.5V)--
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Hi CoolMan1985.CoolMan1985 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:58 pmHey ciclo
sorry for my late reply I have made a autoscan for you the car it`s a 2013 model.
There is no problem at all.
Thanks for the autoscan.
You can install the automatic light wiring ("A" in the sale).
You will have your automatic lights and CH/LH functions, etc ...
Now I send you my email by private message so you can contact me and I can explain the payment and shipping processes of your A wiring.
Fast, easy, safe, efficient, and perfect for you ... you can be totally sure.