lukafoto wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:16 am
Just need to find a way to fire up the engine - everything mechanical fits fine.
... you should take into account the ABS unit (full system) and its compatibility with the 6R engine unit (CGGB MM4HV 8994).
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:27 am
by iichel
Since he already has the 6R wiring loom, I guess it's simply a matter of placing a compatible 6R ABS unit and code it.
The A2 is based on the (9N3) Polo platform but the electronics are all 6R. I guess a 6R ABS or ESP unit would be best, since it can communicate with the CAN network.
I have a 6R ESP 9.0i unit for sale, maybe it's something for you. I guess a ABS8.2 or ESP 8.2i would also work. R
emember that you'll need a vagcom/vcds to make it work, every abs or ESP pump needs a unique coding based on many parameters. We can aid you with this of course.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:10 am
by ciclo
Passat B7. White instrument cluster. Software evolution.
Polo 6R
Friday,11,August,2017,21:51:02:06516
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY0CICLO License Plate:
Mileage: 25670km-15950mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2E 37 44 55 56 65 77 0B
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDY0CICLO Mileage: 25670km-15950miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZC) Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
Part No SW: 03F 906 070 GD HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 5466
Revision: --H10--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 001100D6202400080000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070GD 004007
ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
VCID: 6A77224C3700F7A8DE-803E
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BE HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001
Revision: --------
Coding: 210228E3216D00B5842814EA84D300401500
Shop #: WSC 40308 002 104857
VCID: 020FF2049B0867509E-8056
No fault code found.
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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085) Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 654 HW: 6R0 959 654
Component: LENKW.SENSOR H07 0070
Serial number: 08021613470174
Coding: 01
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X_VW25.rod
VCID: 7E83FA8867648F3C7E-802A
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H HW: 6R0 907 044 H
Component: Climatronic H11 0711
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 38398EA6770623CA4E-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 C HW: 7E0 937 090 C
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0752
Revision: B9082001 Serial number: 4000 122170091
Coding: 3CB02FBF48E32400B3380F916CEB9FDCDAC0672F600D30D0200000030800
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 2B34A48123C77D71D6-807E
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 547
Component: RLHS 220816 0 42 0106
Coding: 0728DD
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD HW: 6R0 959 801 BD Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 8612
Serial number: KU0KU003041440937042
Coding: 0200A3
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF HW: 6R0 959 802 BF Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 8612
Serial number: KU0KU006031440656541
Coding: 1000AB
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H11 9005
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442 HW: 1K8 959 442
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H03 0103
Serial number: 27140003142720054516
Coding: A4FFFF
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G HW: 6R0 959 811 G
Component: J388__TSG_HL 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU003051200017821
Coding: 18BC32
Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G HW: 6R0 959 812 G
Component: J389__TSG_HR 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU010051200012315
Coding: 18BC32
No fault code found.
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 6R0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 C HW: 7E0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 4K H11 0013
Revision: -------- Serial number: 47361212601014
Coding: 308001
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
VCID: 3E437AC867240FFC7E-806A
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX01JKVVP
Coding: 00314D
Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
VCID: 4A5762ECB760B748DE-801E
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3575HRB405N1C4LI7929
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3585HRB405B1D5MS8GS2
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3515RRB405B17ABS901.
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3525RRB405B181TUDPKC
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 C HW: 6R0 920 870 C
Component: KOMBI H05 0607
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140E01
Shop #: WSC 00788 219 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
VCID: 353A88AF4309313F26-8060
1 Fault Found:
12658432 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 45
Mileage: 25673 km
Date: 2017.08.11
Time: 21:45:52
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090 C
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0752
Revision: B9082001
Coding: 002200
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 68692E363716039ACE-803C
No fault code found.
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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844) Labels:. 8S0-857-511.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G HW: 7E0 857 511 E
Component: FLA H10 0003
Revision: AA001001
Coding: 0404001C00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 03607 002 104857
ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
ROD: N/A
VCID: 2E339A9827F46F0CFE-807A
No ASAM data for: "EV_HighBeamAssisAU316" (VW25)
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H05 0607
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6A77224C3700F7A8DE-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F HW: 5N0 035 342 F
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0530
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7662584630
Coding: 010100
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 2A37A28C3FC07768DE-807E
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H06 5218
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
Coding: 04000442040000A10001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 37388CA5730325CD36-8062
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V14 8477
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11221
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2F309C9DC7EB5515F6-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
Component: LWR-ECU H02 0070
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 0112000001000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
VCID: 77780C657B43A50D36-8022
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 L HW: 1T0 035 680 C
Component: RNS-MID H06 5218
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7L7654213
Coding: 04000442040000A10001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 37388CA5730325CD36-8062
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V14 8477
No fault code found.
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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502) Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 H HW: 5Q0 907 273
Component: RDKBERU30 H04 0012
Serial number: 30000000034843
ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 006001
ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_003.rod
VCID: 394680BB733D29D346-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 L HW: 7P6 035 730 L
Component: TELEFON H15 3200
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007664158506
Coding: 0501000000010110
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
VCID: 3B4484B16B371DE156-806E
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:24)--------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 C HW: 6R0 920 870 C
Component: KOMBI H05 0607
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140E01
Shop #: WSC 00788 219 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
VCID: 353A88AF4309313F26-8060
1 Fault Found:
12658432 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 45
Mileage: 25673 km
Date: 2017.08.11
Time: 21:45:52
I will have to test D version for my IC, but I'm not sure it will work.
Why is it always so difficult to do something on the Polo 6R (PQ25)? this is a hell...
I'm going to have to buy a Golf VII, infinitely easier to make modifications with all the information that is in the main diagnostic tools.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:18 am
by n4s
I believe the tpms receiver D and F use different sensors. The H I believe already has Component Protection, so only works with clusters with CP.
Golf 7 has many upgrades with CP. dont know if will be easier...
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:49 am
by ciclo
n4s wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:18 am
I believe the tpms receiver D and F use different sensors.
B is for D unit and F is for F unit.
Currently B has been replaced by F for D units. (please use as replacement F)
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:59 am
by ciclo
n4s wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:18 am
Golf 7 has many upgrades with CP. dont know if will be easier...
Very good document, good thing I understand some spanish
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:43 pm
by ag69
sorry to write this here.
but some of the words and lettering/numbering used is greek and roman to me.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:54 am
by mattblr
Hi Ciclo!
My ride is a Polo GT TSi (India, 2015 June) and would like to do a DIY auto folding heated outside rear view mirror install using OEM parts. My Google searches brings me here and I find that you are an extremely knowledgeable person with a helping mentality. Hope you can help me with this.
First of all, do you think it is a feasible and worthwhile effort using OEM parts or shall I stick to OEM mirrors and the K418 third-party controllers? If OEM route is doable, then could you please let me know the list of the part numbers that I need to procure (like LH & RH mirrors, controllers, wiring loom/pins, etc) and if possible reliable sources as well?
I have the VCDS cable and software which maybe used to enable desired function. Hope you will be able to help me with this. Please let me know if you need a VCDS scan to check the installed modules.
Thanks,
Matt
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:07 am
by ciclo
n4s wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:40 pm
I understand but you have to pay for many things:
I agree with you, however, the money is not always the problem to overcome ...
n4s wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:40 pm
Very good document, good thing I understand some spanish
That's fine.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:08 am
by ciclo
ag69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:43 pm
sorry to write this here.
but some of the words and lettering/numbering used is greek and roman to me.
Hahaha ... You're right, I totally agree with you, currently some of us look like Martians.
It also depends on who I am talking to ... (due to his extensive knowledges)
Do not worry, if I succeed in what I am doing all of you will have all the information about it.
I'll try to do better next time.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:49 pm
by ciclo
mattblr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:54 am
Hi Ciclo!
My ride is a Polo GT TSi (India, 2015 June) and would like to do a DIY auto folding heated outside rear view mirror install using OEM parts. My Google searches brings me here and I find that you are an extremely knowledgeable person with a helping mentality. Hope you can help me with this.
First of all, do you think it is a feasible and worthwhile effort using OEM parts or shall I stick to OEM mirrors and the K418 third-party controllers? If OEM route is doable, then could you please let me know the list of the part numbers that I need to procure (like LH & RH mirrors, controllers, wiring loom/pins, etc) and if possible reliable sources as well?
I have the VCDS cable and software which maybe used to enable desired function. Hope you will be able to help me with this. Please let me know if you need a VCDS scan to check the installed modules.
Thanks,
Matt
Hello, welcome.
Please search the information in this topic.The information is for 6R 2009-2014, it's the only information I know.
I do not think it will be useful for your 6R GT IND in its entirety if you already have folding mirrors without automatic function.
In this case, all you have to do is find (on ETKA) the correct window regulator motors for both front doors, but I'm afraid they are not manufactured.
There are other electronic alternatives, but I'm afraid no one has yet.
I recomend original parts in any case.
Folding mirrors with automatic function can be really dangerous in the 6R if the fingers are caught by them.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:55 am
by mattblr
Hello, welcome.
Please search the information in this topic.The information is for 6R 2009-2014, it's the only information I know.
I do not think it will be useful for your 6R GT IND in its entirety if you already have folding mirrors without automatic function.
In this case, all you have to do is find (on ETKA) the correct window regulator motors for both front doors, but I'm afraid they are not manufactured.
There are other electronic alternatives, but I'm afraid no one has yet.
I recomend original parts in any case.
Folding mirrors with automatic function can be really dangerous in the 6R if the fingers are caught by them.
Thank you sir for the detailed reply. There maybe some confusion created the way I asked the question. My ride doesn't have the electrically foldable mirrors. They can be folded only manually (by physically pushing on them). I believe the newer Polo manufactured after September 2015 have the electrically foldable mirrors. All I want is to have the OEM functionality of those mirrors; nothing extra. By stating automatic folding I might have confused you to think that I am looking for some functionality not offered by the electrically foldable mirrors offered by the newer Polo.
I found a set of electrically foldable mirror mechanisms online, but not sure if they are the right parts. Also, there are some sites mentioning about having to change door controllers. So, I just wanted your valuable opinion as to what parts are needed in addition to the mirrors themselves and the newer switch.
Hope I am being clear this time and you might have an answer for me.
Thanks!
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:45 am
by ciclo
Totally clear.
Without the automatic function are totally possible for your 6R GT IND with original parts.
You need the same original parts as the 6R GT IND that are currently sold in your country.
The mirrors assembly, with folding function (motor).
Doors modules (window regulator motors) with the necessary pins.
The switch with the functions you want to add (folded, heated ??)
And some additional wires for these new functions.
For heated function I am not sure that it is possible in the 6R IND.
Please open a new topic in the forum and provide all the information there. Autoscan (mandatory), images from your current side mirrors, images from your 6R.
VCDS Autoscan is the base with which to begin to look for what you need.
In this way it is easier to help with diagrams, part numbers, coding, etc ...