6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Excellent! Good job.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Hola Pablo. Edgardo de Argentina. Si precisa algo avísame tengo una suran hl con eso que querés instalar. Abrazo
Pablo, if you need something, let me know as I own a Suran a HL with what you are trying to retrofit.
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Pablo, if you need something, let me know as I own a Suran a HL with what you are trying to retrofit.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Good afternoon. Please allow me to ask some advice on behalf of the Polo's little sister, the Up! After running a mark two hatchback which was a complete charm to own and is still fondly remembered for enjoyable, if leisurely 800 mile journeys, I bought a new High Up! TSI last year. I would like to put cruise control on it and have wired in a new genuine stalk to the 087 BCM and am now ready to connect it to the ECU. The connection is somewhere on J623 T94 but my VW dealer tells me that no information is available for the 1.0 TSI engine "So it can't be done."
Red rag to a bull, especially after the work and research I have put in so far!
The engine is a CHZA, the ECU is 04C 307 909 AG.
I suspect it will be pin 45 as that seems common to most TSI engines but if Ciclo's seemingly endless knowledge could confirm or deny this, I would be very grateful.
Thank you and best wishes, Tom.
Red rag to a bull, especially after the work and research I have put in so far!
The engine is a CHZA, the ECU is 04C 307 909 AG.
I suspect it will be pin 45 as that seems common to most TSI engines but if Ciclo's seemingly endless knowledge could confirm or deny this, I would be very grateful.
Thank you and best wishes, Tom.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Hello, ...and the winner is: T94/56
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Have a good weekend. (to everyone... without exception)
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Bless you Ciclo. You really have made an old man VERY HAPPY!
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
let's hope everything works correctly.
(in the diagram above, where it says 66 in the small box, the white wire ---> goes to T73b/45 BCM white connector)
(in the diagram above, where it says 66 in the small box, the white wire ---> goes to T73b/45 BCM white connector)
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Yes, that's where it is going. The ECU connection is the last wire before VCDS coding on Monday. Thank you so much Ciclo for your help. I have been trying for three weeks to find what you found for me in a couple of hours. I raise my glass to you Sir and will let you know how it goes.
Safe Journeys, Tom.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
I need hardly tell you all that Ciclo was absolutely right.
Thank you very much Sir. I have cruise control!
Thank you very much Sir. I have cruise control!
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Cool! Enjoy it.
Thanks for sharing the result.
Thanks for sharing the result.
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Hi all!
I'm Fabio from Rome, I just bought a MY 2012 Polo GTI 1.4. As my daily commute is all about motorway I decided to fit the cruise control straight after I got the car.
I used this kit that should be made by Kufatec
I fitted it according to this instructions with the only difference that I hate to modify existing car harness, so I prefered to power the cruise control directly from fuse 11 using a fuse tap cable, rather then braze on the wire onto the existing one coming from pin 44 of BCM plug A.
I coded enabling bit 7 of byte 17 on 09-Cent. Elect. and bit 5 of byte 5 on 01-Engine
After all cruise control doesn't work
I did measuring block on Address 09 and every switch of the cruise control works
Please help me to understand what's wrong with it, it's really frustrating to see the cruise control switch there and cannot use it
I'm Fabio from Rome, I just bought a MY 2012 Polo GTI 1.4. As my daily commute is all about motorway I decided to fit the cruise control straight after I got the car.
I used this kit that should be made by Kufatec
I fitted it according to this instructions with the only difference that I hate to modify existing car harness, so I prefered to power the cruise control directly from fuse 11 using a fuse tap cable, rather then braze on the wire onto the existing one coming from pin 44 of BCM plug A.
I coded enabling bit 7 of byte 17 on 09-Cent. Elect. and bit 5 of byte 5 on 01-Engine
After all cruise control doesn't work
I did measuring block on Address 09 and every switch of the cruise control works
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Wednesday,30,October,2019,01:39:13:00001
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY507378 License Plate: EG081NS
Mileage: 132280km-82194mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 55 56 0B
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY507378 Mileage: 132280km-82194miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Not registered 0011
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAVE) Labels:. 03C-907-309-V1.clb
Part No SW: 03C 906 027 AR HW: 03C 906 027 AR
Component: 1.4l R4/4V TS X15 9970
Revision: L2X15--- Serial number:
Coding: 00250012002400000000
Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TSI01103C906027AR 001013
ROD: EV_ECM14TSI01103C906027AR.rod
VCID: 71E8ED58A0A91BCE75-8024
2 Faults Found:
4481 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
P0568 00 [039] - Implausible Signal
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 132285 km
Date: 2019.10.28
Time: 00:20:59
Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 61 °C
Intake air temperature: 31 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.732 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bit 0: 204
Cruise Control System: specified speed: 0.00 km/h
Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bit 0: 204
Cruise control switch-off: irreversible w. brake intervention-Bit 0: 0
Cruise control switch-off: reversible-Bit 0: 255
Cruise control switch-off: irreversible-Bit 0: 255
Acceleration: 0.000 m/s²
4482 - Function Restriction due to Implausible Message(s)
U1112 00 [039] - -
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 132285 km
Date: 2019.10.28
Time: 00:14:24
Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 53 °C
Intake air temperature: 33 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.308 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bit 0: 204
Cruise Control System: specified speed: 0.00 km/h
Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bit 0: 204
Cruise control switch-off: irreversible w. brake intervention-Bit 0: 0
Cruise control switch-off: reversible-Bit 0: 255
Cruise control switch-off: irreversible-Bit 0: 255
Acceleration: 0.000 m/s²
Readiness: 1110 0101
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
Part No SW: 0AM 300 053 G HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component: GSG DSG AG7 431 3010
Revision: 00043014 Serial number: CU501201106828
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 306E285CA02352C63A-513C
1 Fault Found:
006015 - Hydraulic Pump Motor
P177F - 000 - Insufficient Voltage - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 2
Mileage: 132189 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.03.16
Time: 01:22:11
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AK HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001
Revision: --------
Coding: 210248E3416D02B9842812E982D940411700
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 071CA380B22D357ECB-8052
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H HW: 6R0 907 044 H
Component: Climatronic H11 0711
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 387E107C8B538A8672-806C
3 Faults Found:
01271 - Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68)
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 207
Mileage: 129358 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.02.01
Time: 03:08:50
01272 - Positioning Motor for Central Flap (V70)
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 209
Mileage: 130284 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.02.19
Time: 07:31:04
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 202
Mileage: 132211 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.03.16
Time: 12:39:50
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 089 F HW: 7H0 937 089
Component: BCM T5GP Li4 H50 0251
Revision: BS050001 Serial number: 0465 165110311
Coding: 24B029BF08A10000002808916C2B0DD05AC0672F60051041200000010000
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 39781578B059938E8D-806C
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB HW: 6R0 959 801 AB Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 008 1621
Serial number: KU0KU001061100012018
Coding: 08BC30
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD HW: 6R0 959 802 AD Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 008 1621
Serial number: KU0KU009061100014744
Coding: 08BC30
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 HW: 5K0 959 542 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H06 0010
Serial number: 0031448
Coding: 830000
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 M HW: 6R0 959 655 M
Component: VW10Airbag010 H09 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GZ000KCUU
Coding: 003130
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
VCID: 4C965CACE7CB162626-8018
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3575HRB40550CTC4BP4E
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3585HRB40570CTC470D/
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3515RRB40590KSEGFOA9
Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3525RRB405J0L2V24OL+
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 A HW: 6R0 920 870 A
Component: KOMBI H03 0505
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140C01
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
VCID: 336427509A3569DE47-8066
3 Faults Found:
9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor
B1041 35 [008] - Signal high time > maximum
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 201
Mileage: 132189 km
Date: 2019.10.24
Time: 01:20:24
13638912 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 201
Mileage: 132189 km
Date: 2019.10.24
Time: 01:20:19
13639168 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 201
Mileage: 132189 km
Date: 2019.10.24
Time: 00:17:57
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 089
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H50 0251
Revision: BS050001
Coding: 002000
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 70EEE85CA3A312C67A-8024
2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 27
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 132189 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.03.16
Time: 01:08:40
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 201
Mileage: 132189 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.03.16
Time: 01:28:28
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H03 0505
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6ADAFA348D7FE81634-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11241
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2F6C2B20EA1D4D3E23-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
Component: LWR-ECU H02 0070
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 0110000001000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
VCID: 77FCD340CECD45FEBB-8022
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Please see if the wire in the ECU is fitted correctly (deep enough) and at the correct position.
Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
I will check it but I fitted it on pin 45 of connector T94. I removed the dummy from that pin and fitted the wire till it clicked inside the connector. It should be seated properly then.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
Commonly the one that gives more problems is the terminal T94/45.
It is necessary to remove the terminal locking mechanism (pink) from the connector. Did you do this before inserting the terminal?
Example:
It is necessary to remove the terminal locking mechanism (pink) from the connector. Did you do this before inserting the terminal?
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems
That's definitely the problem, the cruise control wire doesn't fit all the way to the connector. But even with the purple part removed I can't push the wire deep enough.