6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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it works like a charm !!
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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8) Excellent! Good job. :wink:
Enjoy it!

With your permission I'll post more images.

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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Hola Pablo. Edgardo de Argentina. Si precisa algo avísame tengo una suran hl con eso que querés instalar. Abrazo

Pablo, if you need something, let me know as I own a Suran a HL with what you are trying to retrofit.


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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Good afternoon. Please allow me to ask some advice on behalf of the Polo's little sister, the Up! After running a mark two hatchback which was a complete charm to own and is still fondly remembered for enjoyable, if leisurely 800 mile journeys, I bought a new High Up! TSI last year. I would like to put cruise control on it and have wired in a new genuine stalk to the 087 BCM and am now ready to connect it to the ECU. The connection is somewhere on J623 T94 but my VW dealer tells me that no information is available for the 1.0 TSI engine "So it can't be done."
Red rag to a bull, especially after the work and research I have put in so far!
The engine is a CHZA, the ECU is 04C 307 909 AG.
I suspect it will be pin 45 as that seems common to most TSI engines but if Ciclo's seemingly endless knowledge could confirm or deny this, I would be very grateful.
Thank you and best wishes, Tom.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Hello, ...and the winner is: T94/56

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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Bless you Ciclo. You really have made an old man VERY HAPPY!
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let's hope everything works correctly. :wink:

(in the diagram above, where it says 66 in the small box, the white wire ---> goes to T73b/45 BCM white connector)
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Yes, that's where it is going. The ECU connection is the last wire before VCDS coding on Monday. Thank you so much Ciclo for your help. I have been trying for three weeks to find what you found for me in a couple of hours. I raise my glass to you Sir and will let you know how it goes.
Safe Journeys, Tom.
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I need hardly tell you all that Ciclo was absolutely right.
Thank you very much Sir. I have cruise control!
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Cool! Enjoy it.
Thanks for sharing the result. :wink:
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Hi all!

I'm Fabio from Rome, I just bought a MY 2012 Polo GTI 1.4. As my daily commute is all about motorway I decided to fit the cruise control straight after I got the car.

I used this kit that should be made by Kufatec

I fitted it according to this instructions with the only difference that I hate to modify existing car harness, so I prefered to power the cruise control directly from fuse 11 using a fuse tap cable, rather then braze on the wire onto the existing one coming from pin 44 of BCM plug A.

I coded enabling bit 7 of byte 17 on 09-Cent. Elect. and bit 5 of byte 5 on 01-Engine

After all cruise control doesn't work

I did measuring block on Address 09 and every switch of the cruise control works

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Wednesday,30,October,2019,01:39:13:00001
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY507378   License Plate: EG081NS
Mileage: 132280km-82194mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 55 56 0B

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY507378   Mileage: 132280km-82194miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Not registered 0011
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAVE)       Labels:. 03C-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 03C 906 027 AR    HW: 03C 906 027 AR
   Component: 1.4l R4/4V TS X15 9970  
   Revision: L2X15---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00250012002400000000
   Shop #: WSC 92521 052 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TSI01103C906027AR 001013
   ROD: EV_ECM14TSI01103C906027AR.rod
   VCID: 71E8ED58A0A91BCE75-8024

2 Faults Found:
4481 - Cruise Control Switch (E45) 
          P0568 00 [039] - Implausible Signal
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 132285 km
                    Date: 2019.10.28
                    Time: 00:20:59

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 61 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 31 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.732 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bit 0: 204
                    Cruise Control System: specified speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bit 0: 204
                    Cruise control switch-off: irreversible w. brake intervention-Bit 0: 0
                    Cruise control switch-off: reversible-Bit 0: 255
                    Cruise control switch-off: irreversible-Bit 0: 255
                    Acceleration: 0.000 m/s²

4482 - Function Restriction due to Implausible Message(s) 
          U1112 00 [039] - -
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 132285 km
                    Date: 2019.10.28
                    Time: 00:14:24

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 53 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 33 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.308 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bit 0: 204
                    Cruise Control System: specified speed: 0.00 km/h
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status-Bit 0: 204
                    Cruise control switch-off: irreversible w. brake intervention-Bit 0: 0
                    Cruise control switch-off: reversible-Bit 0: 255
                    Cruise control switch-off: irreversible-Bit 0: 255
                    Acceleration: 0.000 m/s²

Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 053 G    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 3010  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501201106828
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 306E285CA02352C63A-513C

1 Fault Found:
006015 - Hydraulic Pump Motor 
               P177F - 000 - Insufficient Voltage - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Mileage: 132189 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.03.16
                    Time: 01:22:11


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AK    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210248E3416D02B9842812E982D940411700
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 071CA380B22D357ECB-8052

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H11 0711  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 387E107C8B538A8672-806C

3 Faults Found:
01271 - Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68) 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 207
                    Mileage: 129358 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.02.01
                    Time: 03:08:50

01272 - Positioning Motor for Central Flap (V70) 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 209
                    Mileage: 130284 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.02.19
                    Time: 07:31:04

00457 - Control Module for Network (J519) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 202
                    Mileage: 132211 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.03.16
                    Time: 12:39:50


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 089 F    HW: 7H0 937 089 
   Component: BCM T5GP Li4  H50 0251  
   Revision: BS050001    Serial number: 0465 165110311
   Coding: 24B029BF08A10000002808916C2B0DD05AC0672F60051041200000010000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 39781578B059938E8D-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB    HW: 6R0 959 801 AB  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  008 1621 
   Serial number: KU0KU001061100012018
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD    HW: 6R0 959 802 AD  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  008 1621 
   Serial number: KU0KU009061100014744
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H06 0010 
   Serial number: 0031448             
   Coding: 830000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 M    HW: 6R0 959 655 M
   Component: VW10Airbag010 H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GZ000KCUU
   Coding: 003130
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4C965CACE7CB162626-8018

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB40550CTC4BP4E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB40570CTC470D/

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB40590KSEGFOA9

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405J0L2V24OL+

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 A    HW: 6R0 920 870 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140C01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 336427509A3569DE47-8066

3 Faults Found:
9453842 - Oil Level Thermal Sensor 
          B1041 35 [008] - Signal high time > maximum
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 132189 km
                    Date: 2019.10.24
                    Time: 01:20:24

13638912 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 132189 km
                    Date: 2019.10.24
                    Time: 01:20:19

13639168 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 132189 km
                    Date: 2019.10.24
                    Time: 00:17:57


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 089 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H50 0251  
   Revision: BS050001    
   Coding: 002000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 70EEE85CA3A312C67A-8024

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 27
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 132189 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.03.16
                    Time: 01:08:40

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 132189 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.03.16
                    Time: 01:28:28


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0505  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADAFA348D7FE81634-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11241
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6C2B20EA1D4D3E23-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0110000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77FCD340CECD45FEBB-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Please help me to understand what's wrong with it, it's really frustrating to see the cruise control switch there and cannot use it :twisted:
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Please see if the wire in the ECU is fitted correctly (deep enough) and at the correct position.
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iichel wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:50 pm Please see if the wire in the ECU is fitted correctly (deep enough) and at the correct position.
I will check it but I fitted it on pin 45 of connector T94. I removed the dummy from that pin and fitted the wire till it clicked inside the connector. It should be seated properly then.
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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Commonly the one that gives more problems is the terminal T94/45.
It is necessary to remove the terminal locking mechanism (pink) from the connector. Did you do this before inserting the terminal?

Example:
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

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That's definitely the problem, the cruise control wire doesn't fit all the way to the connector. But even with the purple part removed I can't push the wire deep enough.
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