iichels Polo 6R 1.6TDI DSG --> OEM++ R-Line conversion

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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

Post by iichel »

Ah so that's what those T4 connectors are for at the speaker.

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just to clarify to everyone what ciclo and I are talking about when it comes to organising wires.. this is the situation below my steering column.
you'll probably go like WHAT A FC-UK-ING MESS and you'd be sort of right. I've colored in the connectors to show you what it's for.
in your standard Polo 6R you'll have one big loom to an angled 41-pin connector.
For complicated reasons, I have different stalks and kessy (so no normal igniton lock) which adds a lot to the chaos below the steering wheel.

before the weekend, all the wires to the slip ring and the stalks were running through the two connectors you see on the left side.
This was sort of fine but the space below the steering wheel is limited. and I like to have a lot of connectors so debugging is a lot easier.
after some mods, the wiring was not very systematic and the wires were a bit too long, making storage difficult and it looks horrible.

I decided to better my life and the result is showing.
There are still some wires on the left side, this will go the final connector i was talking about. this will further ease the installation of the CC by mfs.

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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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:shock: Awesome.

I'm so perplexed that I don't know what to write.
I understand perfectly all the modifications and possible variants that you have had to do, but it's difficult to assimilate these images. :|

You deserve a prize ... ask for it at the VW factory by showing these images. :lol:
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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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ciclo wrote:Yes, with capacitors (filters).

http://sixcars.de/cars/VW/Golf_8585/Golf_8585_1200.jpg
or
https://image.dhgate.com/0x0/f2/albu/g4 ... I2A661.jpg

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Golf6, RNS510 without VW/Dynaudio Sound System.

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So do we need crossover for the rear tweeters?


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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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In this case it's not necessary. The tweeters that I intend to install have their capacitors to filter the low and midrange frequencies. I suppose these capacitors will have the exact value so that the tweeters sound correctly.

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It'll not be absolutely perfect due to the location of the tweeters - same place as iichel - and the required decibels due to its distance with respect to the original door speaker, but it's the best thing to do in a super cheap way (OEM!). :lol:

I'm not looking for a special sound or high definition for my 6R, I just want to give a bit of clarity to the sound in the back.
This type of tweeters are installed from the factory in VW models that don't have a special sound system, Golf, Scirocco, etc ... but not in our 6R.

Make a test if your 6R has 6 speakers from factory like mine. Increase the volume of your radio/navigator, and make the total balance between bringing the sound to the front (4 speakers) and after to the back (2 speakers), then you will understand what I intend to achieve.

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Yes. Thank you Ciclo. I understand what you and iichel is trying to achieve here. so with factory type tweeters, there’s no need for crossover as it is built in. Cool. My 6R do have 6speakers now. I agreed it’s a good cheap mod. will see if I can get my hands on those tweeters at good price. [emoji1360]


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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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Did some wiring...
The aim is to make it a bit easier to connect and disconnect the MFSW external equipment in case it needs some adjustment.

1st picture on the left is the 12-pin connector that I've previously mentioned as a T16 that goes into the car wiring loom
In the middle is the new module for the CC by MFS and the MFSW emulator for bluetooth.
On the right are two slip rings, 5C0 959 654 and 6RA 959 654.
You might remember my steering column being a bit strange due to the kessy. But these rings are factory in Jetta, Beetle, Up! and some other cars.

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Some details of the module

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Connecting scheme (remember, my car has bluetooth and BCM 7E0 Max)

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all of this is mainly the masterwork of spacewalker.
Tomorrow I'll mount it all in the car and see if it works... I'm very very excited!
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Good luck!
Maybe I'd correct something in that scheme ...hmm... better wait for results. :wink:
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Very nice , I always like adaptors
however last time doing direct solder , no time and place for plugs ;)
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There are some small issues with getting everything to work as intended.
What is working:
- Button illumination
- Radio controls by MFSW
- Horn activation via LIN (via emulator)

New module: 3D Special Function to allow more extensive control of the MFSW module.
Input: LIN from MFSW
Output: can comfort to gateway, radio and hopefully later also to cluster and ECU

Code: Select all

Thursday,15,March,2018,17:40:18:11868
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86(VirtualBox)
VCDS Version 18.2.0.3  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY225654   License Plate: 
Mileage: 64000km-39767mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 05 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 2B 2E 37 3C 3D 44 47 55
          56 57 61 69 6C 77

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY225654   Mileage: 64000km-39767miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: Malfunction 0010
3D-Special Function -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J000-CFWA)       Labels:. 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
   Part No SW: 03P 906 021 B    HW: 03P 907 425 
   Component: R3 1.2l TDI   H06 9980  
   Revision: 12005001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114036033401080000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021B 001043
   ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AA.rod
   VCID: 270B06DDAF6FF1FF132-8073

1 Fault Found:
14108 - Cruise Control Switch (E45) 
          P0568 00 [063] - Implausible Signal
          Confirmed - Not Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 64002 km
                    Date: 2018.03.15
                    Time: 17:49:21

                    Engine speed: 829.25 /min
                    Normed load value: 38.4 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 40 ∞C
                    Intake air temperature: 28 ∞C
                    Ambient air pressure: 950 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.046 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 0
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): switch position: 00
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status: 00000000 
                    Terminal 15 status: On
                    Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value: 40 ∞C
                    Cruise Control System: specified speed: 0 km/h

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AS    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H02 0002  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 21DD4885432500C5841A126EC25500521505
   Shop #: WSC 00049 770 00138
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 0F7B4E7D27DF89BFFB2-805B

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6RA 959 654     HW: 6RA 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H02 0020  
   Serial number: 090465LBH0000C
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005002
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 0F7B4E7D27DF89BFFB2-805B

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 E    HW: 5K0 959 434 
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1202  
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0346244897
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: EV_KESSY_PQ35GP.rod
   VCID: 372BD69D7FCF617F832-8063

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0812  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 3829D5A172516E078A8-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0733  
   Revision: B9080001    Serial number: 0771 092150183
   Coding: 3CB02FF828CB2400933806E2FFEB9FD0802273EFE08D78D0A2E400030800
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 688945E162713E87DA8-803D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 140415 03  37  0059 
   Coding: 0380DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BD    HW: 6R0 959 801 BD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8611 
   Serial number: KU0KU011111300010103
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BF    HW: 6R0 959 802 BF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8611 
   Serial number: KU0KU007111300016463
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Component: J388__TSG_HL  002 0803 
   Serial number: KU0-KU008.06.0910897
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 B    HW: 6R0 959 812 B
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  002 0803 
   Serial number: KU0-KU004.06.0913330
   Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0106  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231422402620
   Coding: 318001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3B23CAAD43E7451F67A-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag01M H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX0142TCE
   Coding: 00314D
   Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4ACD9F691C3DEC97ECC-801F

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB40650BI7U48C8

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB405J09RECEOUJ

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405T0BTBEF9G7

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405R0BTBEKPFQ

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 870 A    HW: 6R0 920 870 A
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3333E28D6BB78D5FBFA-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0733  
   Revision: B9080001    
   Coding: 042200
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 688945E162713E87DA8-803D

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 G    HW: 7E0 857 511 E
   Component: FLA           H10 0003  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 040C00E200000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
   VCID: 2E05F3F98095A0B7D04-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8D3FE97CFD0C97CCC-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 B    HW: 5K0 905 861 B
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H20 0240  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 11000256123005
   Coding: 4100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X.rod
   VCID: 2F3BEEFD879FA9BFDB2-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7666620365    
   Coding: 010100
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 2B03FAEDB307D59FF7A-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 6276  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
   Coding: 00070002010000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3635DB9978459877984-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V15  8515 

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 566 C    HW: 4H0 907 566 F
   Component: SWA Master    H07 0030  
   Serial number: 0384674663
   Coding: 010121
   Shop #: WSC 54321 321 54321
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001028
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_VN75.rod
   VCID: 3039ED819AA1B647C28-8065

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 907 568 C    HW: 4H0 907 568 F
   Component: SWA Slave  H08 0030 
   Serial number: 0432634593          
   Coding: 010121

2 Faults Found:
729349 - Control Module for Lane Change Assistance 
          C1114 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 172
                    Mileage: 64002 km
                    Date: 2018.03.15
                    Time: 17:49:23

729605 - Control Module 2 for Lane Change Assistance 
          C1115 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 172
                    Mileage: 64002 km
                    Date: 2018.03.15
                    Time: 17:49:23


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Address 3D: Special Function        Labels:. 1F9-909-919.lbl
   Part No SW: 1F9 909 919 A    HW: 1F9 909 919 A
   Component: MultifunctionDevice 0067  
   Revision: 00H03000    Serial number: 00000000000409
   Coding: 19003F
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3635DB9974459877984-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6C0 959 442 C
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1           

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11221
   Shop #: WSC 12345  
   VCID: 2F3BEEFD8E5FA9BFDB2-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R12)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5C6 035 456 C    HW: 5C6 035 456 C
   Component: KonzernAmp10K H08 6831  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EAA098C0000052
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4 001001
   ROD: EV_AudioVerst10KanalSTT4.rod
   VCID: 280905E1A271FE871A8-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0192000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77AB169D3F4FA17F432-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 H
   Component: RNS-MID       H26 6276  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7P1950254
   Coding: 00070002010000A10001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3635DB9978459877984-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V15  8515 

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3C0 919 148 B    HW: 3C0 919 148 
   Component: R78 DTV-JP          0250  
   Revision: R0H14000    Serial number: 80100800042102
   Coding: 0000816
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 280905E1AEF1FE871A8-807D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 919 805 
   Component: R204 TVKLeser       0010

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 534     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: Batt.regelung H80 0733  
   Serial number: 0771 092150183
   Coding: 030F1A5A
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 688945E162713E87DA8-803D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181     HW: 6C0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223 
   Serial number: 61083A44504351928092

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 E    HW: 1K0 907 383 E
   Component: Anhaenger     H07 0080  
   Revision: 3A002002    Serial number: 00000116932377
   Coding: 0100000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 2F3BEEFD871FA9BFDB2-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 441     HW: 7E0 907 441 
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: 00H08000    Serial number: 525PA8-J060533
   Coding: 0030115
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 65974CD5996323EFE1E-8031

1 Fault Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 172
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 3C8-035-730-A.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 E    HW: 3C8 035 730 E
   Component: Telefon       025 0983  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35502105254406
   Coding: 020100000100010000000101
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002709
   ROD: EV_UHVPremi.rod
   VCID: 25170CD5D563E3EF21E-8071

No fault code found.

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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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(where it says F9 Byte2 should be 3F, like the autoscan - I was doing checks-) sorry... :lol:

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Do you need the CCS before the ignition? Maybe it should be a +15 signal from the T41 to new module, although I do not know how the new module works.
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How the new module can pick up the signals of the CCS Buttons through the LIN? (this is my stupid question for this week :lol:, I allow myself only one per week)

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(where the diagram says Horn, it's a wire with no function, same as *2)

As you already know when I installed these buttons through the T73b/36 LIN all the CCS signals were recognized in the ECU (by using the T5/5 slot and from here to ECU), but the CCS function was restricted by problems in the brakes system (according ODIS).
The rest of the buttons worked perfectly, all of them. Also the Horn.

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Maybe this will provide new ideas. :|
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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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So, I've been playing around a bit with the new steering wheel.
I've connected it to LIN T73b/36, connected CC wire of steering wheel to CC wire to ECU and coded the BCM to:
3CB02FF828CB2400933906E2FFEB9FD0808673EF608D78D0B0A050032844
Coding without CC by MFSW
3CB02FF828CB2400933806E2FFEB9FD0802273EFE08D78D0A2E400030800

coded MFSW from B0FFFF to 280000

(I created this coding based on a lot of reference scans from Jetta PQ25 with CC by MFSW)

Result:
BCM recognises the buttons from the CC (ON, CNL, SET, RES) and doesn't have a separate label for + and -
ECU measuring value IDE00356 goes either 80 or 00 (00 when I/O is pressed) and the wire has about 8.6V when status is 80.
Error in ECU:

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Friday,16,March,2018,15:38:32:11868
VCDS Version: Release 18.2.0 Running on Windows 7 x86
www.Ross-Tech.com

                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03P 906 021 B    HW: 03P 907 425 
  Component and/or Version: R3 1.2l TDI   H06 9980
           Software Coding: 00114036033401080000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 12345 123 12345
              ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021B 001043 (VW25)
                       ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AA.rod
                      VCID: 270B06DDAF6FF1FF132-8072
1 Fault Found:

14106 - Cruise Control Switch (E45) 
          P0568 00 [063] - Implausible Signal
          Confirmed - Not Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 64002 km
                    Date: 2018.03.16
                    Time: 15:31:36

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 16 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 12 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 950 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.585 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 0
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): switch position: 80
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status: 00000000 
                    Terminal 15 status: On
                    Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value: 16 °C
                    Cruise Control System: specified speed: 0 km/h
                    
Reference from CC via stalks via BCM
Values in 01 ECU
Read values from IDE00356
Cruise control switch OFF = 00
Cruise control switch cancel = 80
Cruise control switch ON = 81
Cruise control switch ON + RES = 84
Cruise control switch ON + SET = 82

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	Jetta	PQ25	7H0 937 090 E						7B994B9A08230F0008382081240884C55286760E608510D0B0A050022844
	Jetta	PQ25	7E0 937 190 B						7A994BBE08AB0F0008392080360894C54BC6722E60015170B0A050032844
	Jetta	PQ25	7E0 937 190 B						7B994B1808AB0B0000392081240884C552C6760E60AD50F0B0A050032844
	Jetta	PQ25	7H0 937 090 E						7B994BBA082B0F00083820803C0894CD0F86702E60000050B0A050022844
	Jetta	PQ25	7E0 937 190 B						7B994B9A08AB0B0008392080240884C54BC6722E600151F0B0A050032844
	Jetta	PQ25	7E0 937 189						7B994BB808AB0B0000392680664894CD0FC6700E60844070B0A050032844
	Jetta	PQ25	7E0 937 190 B						7B994BBE08AB0F0008392080240894C54BC6722E600151F0B0A050032844
	Jetta	PQ25	7H0 937 090 E						7B994B9A08AB0B0008382080240884C50F86760E60840010B0A050022844
	Jetta	PQ25	7E0 937 189						7B994B1808AB0B0000392080240884D50FC6702E60004070B00010032844
	Jetta	PQ25	7H0 937 090 E						7B994BBF082B0F00083820813F2B84CD5286760E60851050B0A010022844
	Jetta	PQ25	7H0 937 090 E						7A994BBF08AB0B0008382080240884C50F86702E60000050B0A050022844
	Jetta	PQ25	7E0 937 190						7B994B1808AB0B0000392081240884C552C6760E60AD50F0B0A050032844
	Jetta	PQ25	7E0 937 189						7B994B1808AB0B0000392080240884D50FC6702E60004070B00010032844
	Jetta	PQ25	7H0 937 090 E						7B994B9A08AB0B0008382080240884C50F86700E60A40050B0A050022844
	
	Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A HW: 6C0 959 442 A	
	Component: E221__MFL-TAT H04 0019 
	Coding: 280000	
ciclo if you have any ideas on coding or wiring... let me know...
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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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Iichel.
can u help share some information regarding the reverse camera. I’ve heard we will need the additional control unit for dynamic guidelines and some others say that’s there’re camera with built in dynamic guidelines module. N lots of them are now with ccd lens and not with original RGB connector which means we need another module to convert the yellow connector to 26pin rgb connector for rcd510 that I have.


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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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Well, what I know is limited to the RNS510.
For the reverse camera 'high' you'll need the external module for the guidelines in correspondence with the steering angle.
Camera --- composite signal ---- module ---- sRGB --- 26 pin RNS
For the reverse camera low without module, it's Camera --- sRGB -- 26 pin RNS
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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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iichel wrote:Well, what I know is limited to the RNS510.
For the reverse camera 'high' you'll need the external module for the guidelines in correspondence with the steering angle.
Camera --- composite signal ---- module ---- sRGB --- 26 pin RNS
For the reverse camera low without module, it's Camera --- sRGB -- 26 pin RNS
Okay. But what happen if I used RVC “High” without the module —— sRGB —— 26pin?


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Re: iichels Polo 6R 1.2TDI Rosa Line Bluemotion

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The RVC high camera sends out a composite video signal (2 wires to 2-pin FAKRA) and the RNS needs a 4-wire input (sRGB) so that's not going to work.
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