Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Benetnash wrote: Tue May 01, 2018 5:55 pm Hello,

I'd like to get help with my Polo, problem is ABS Long Coding is all zeros,

Some time ago, there was a problem with an ECU, and as result there was swap of ECU, Instrument Cluster and Immo, everything runing smooth, but
there is no coding in ABS, and when I try to input a code, VCDS says something like this "Coding Rejected. Error 22: Conditions not correct or request sequence error".

here is my AutoScan, I hope some one can help

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Tuesday,01,May,2018,12:40:55:00006
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: FIX

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAY019004   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAY019004   Mileage: 79350km-49305miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Not registered 0001
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine (CGP)       Labels: 03E-906-033-AZQ.lbl
   Part No SW: 03E 906 023 L    HW: 03E 906 023 L
   Component: SIMOS91 1.2l 4V     4489  
   Revision: --H04---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000071
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 163936
   VCID: 285F4EA298F31D0470-515A

No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 R    HW: 6R0 907 379 R
   Component: ESP8.2i front H04 0002  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 00000
   VCID: 4D91DF3610D1182CA3-8018

2 Faults Found:
03306 - Coding Not Valid 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 78
                    Mileage: 79356 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.21
                    Time: 12:18:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0003
                    Hex Value: 0x0002
                    Hex Value: 0x32E7
                    Hex Value: 0x2598
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F00
                    Hex Value: 0x0000

01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 78
                    Mileage: 79356 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.21
                    Time: 12:23:26

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0007
                    Hex Value: 0x0002
                    Hex Value: 0x3211
                    Hex Value: 0x1498
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F00
                    Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045     HW: 6R0 820 045 
   Component: Climatic       23 0500  
   Revision: 00 09 23    
   VCID: 6BD571AE8A85F61CDD-803E

1 Fault Found:
16372 - Control Module; Unspecified Internal Error 
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 15444 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.01.02
                    Time: 16:42:59


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 D    HW: 6R0 937 087 D
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0207  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0147 045100658
   Coding: 3CB82DBF08A10000002000C03F6B0CD8B0C841DF60060000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 3E7388FAA977B3B42A-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 R    HW: 6R0 959 801 R  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 0912 
   Serial number: KU0-KU020.01.1011432
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 T    HW: 6R0 959 802 T  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 0912 
   Serial number: KU0-KU002.02.1014646
   Coding: 08BC30

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 C    HW: 6R0 959 655 C
   Component: VW10Airbag00L H09 0018  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003DW00CD63$
   Coding: 00304C
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 428BFC0AD58FD7544E-8016

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3572SRB40000AB110A2-

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3582SRB40000AB114A95

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3516GRB402N9LLFMQ3HH

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3526GRB402V9LLFMKJS4

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 860 A    HW: 6R0 920 860 A
   Component: KOMBI         H23 0110  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A00
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 326BACCA652F67D4DE-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 D
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0207  
   Coding: 000100
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
   VCID: 70EF66C2A3A315C4E8-8024

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 79356 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.20
                    Time: 23:54:45


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 860 A    HW: 6R0 920 860 A
   Component: IMMO          H23 0110  
   Serial number:               
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 326BACCA652F67D4DE-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 A
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V275  
   Coding: 11241
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 2E53B8BAED174334BA-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 AA    HW: 5M0 035 186 AA
   Component: Radio RCD310  013 0036  
   Revision: 01000000    Serial number: VWZ1Z2I6253963
   Coding: 0500040004
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 6BD571AE8A85F61CDD-803E

4 Faults Found:
00876 - Treble Speaker Rear Left (R14) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 78828 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.14
                    Time: 13:33:19

00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 78828 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.14
                    Time: 13:33:19

00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 78828 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.14
                    Time: 13:33:25

03138 - Input AUX IN 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 68
                    Mileage: 79192 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.09.16
                    Time: 13:53:48


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There is also wrong coding in CAN Gateway, any sugestions?
If you don´t know your original coding, please try reading the following to generate the right one.
https://www.mypolo.nl/xenforo/threads/6 ... ish.11917/
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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I came up with this code for ABS:

210224e3216E00BB842524E284D500520700

Try this for your ABS and after that, calibrate G85
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Thanks for reply.
I will try it once I'm home,
I will post what I achieved in the evening
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Still the same msg
"Coding rejected.
Error 22: Conditions not correct or request sequence error"

I have a question, about from where VCDS reading info about VIN for autoscan?

That may be a problem.
As I mentioned earlier I had sci and Instrument Cluster sealed from other car. And that VIN from AutoScan is one coded in Instrument Cluster.
But rest of a car has other VIN for example engine, radio etc., the same as chasis, windows etc.
Which is WVWZZZ6RZAY205699

Should I try to calculate my coding with this one? Or there would be a problem due to "wrong" vin in IC?
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Abs will not code until all vins are the same in instrument cluster, engine and immobiliser.
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Ok, and I'm not able to correct it by myself with VDCS, right?
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Benetnash wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 7:26 pm Ok, and I'm not able to correct it by myself with VDCS, right?
I don´t think so. ABS module recodes itself upon VIN mismatch. So you MUST first fix this incongruence and then proceed to re-code the module, and probably initalize G85 basic settings.
If you bought an used cluster, you might need to have a professional tool to "virginize" it first, and then proceed to pair your keys, immo, etc.
VCDS is only able when cluster is in "brand new" condition, eg. odometer reading 0.0km (and a maximum of 100km).
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Thanks for answer.
I don't really know what to do now.
I bought car in this state some time ago, then I have no tools to check it this way,
Uhm, I need to figure out something, but I'm afraid that this battle would be lost.

Thanks for help guys
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Benetnash wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 7:38 pm Thanks for answer.
I don't really know what to do now.
I bought car in this state some time ago, then I have no tools to check it this way,
Uhm, I need to figure out something, but I'm afraid that this battle would be lost.

Thanks for help guys
Don´t give up. I think you have two options:
1- Go and find someone with the right tools to make your cluster match the rest off the car.
2- Buy a brand new IC, and then proceed to match.
3- Buy a tool like vagtacho (you still need to see if compatible, a tool may not be compatible with your IC) and do it your self.
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Thank you for advice,
I will see what can I do with some local "magicans"
Hope it's gonna be well. Also if we find solution,
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Hello guys,

I needed some help from the coding guru's here, I have a Polo 1.2L TSI with the DSG Transmission, RHD. I've upgraded the front brakes from stock 256mm to 288mm and rear are still the stock drum brakes. I needed help with the long code, I tried making the changes to byte 02 and byte 10 of the existing long code but VCDS throws an error 31: Request out of range.

My present long code begins with 62DD.... similar to that of rdasadia. Mine has the CBZJ engine and VIN number is MEXE15607FT100389. Could the guru's here help to generate a long code that I can possibly copy and try out for my module to see if it accepts it. It would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Does your abs unit have ESP?
Anyway, on practice, front 288 and rear drum brakes configuration I have met only on Skoda Rapid. So VW ABS control unit firmware could not be prepared for such configuration, and that's why it doesn't accept such coding.
Mine ABS control unit with firmware 6R0 907 379 AS also doesn't accept such coding. So the only advice I have is to retrofit rear brakes to the disk type.
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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Yes, my ABS Unit does have ESP. Have seen several Polo's get 288mm for the front and drums in the rear in drive2.ru forums and they have mentioned about the same coding for the setup. For the rear upgrade, I would require a rear axle swap as the current rear axle on my polo doesn't have caliper mounting brackets.
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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All that Polo on drive2.ru are retrofited front 288mm, and most of them have abs without ESP.
As for rear axle. There is one way to avoid axle replacement. One guy in Russia produces steel plates for rear axles to make disk brakes mounting possibility.
https://madlexxcars.ru/madlexxcars_mlc_vag
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Re: Polo 6R ABS CODING

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philipmathew wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:58 pm Yes, my ABS Unit does have ESP. Have seen several Polo's get 288mm for the front and drums in the rear in drive2.ru forums and they have mentioned about the same coding for the setup. For the rear upgrade, I would require a rear axle swap as the current rear axle on my polo doesn't have caliper mounting brackets.
VCDS autoscan please. Thank you!
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