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Polo 6R 2016 Mod.

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@ciclo

Here is the scan report & the images you ask.
Currently I have Bi-Xenon lights (Chinese buy) with no AFS. Would like to eventually install the new LED lights with AFS & HBA.

1) For above require harness and part nos. to buy.
2) After I installed max BCM and TPMS High , the TPMS works fine and I do get all the pressures from four tire on my cluster but if you see the scan there are errors in CAN & TPMS. Really Confused that if the module is unreachable then how do I see all tire pressures on my cluster.
3) Also for some reason my reversing light has stopped working

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Thursday,13,April,2017,00:38:19:58997
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4334.4
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
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VIN: MEXA16604GT072590   License Plate: 1342017
Mileage: 10360km-6437mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 60 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56 65 0B

VIN: MEXA16604GT072590   Mileage: 10360km-6437miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels: 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 KC    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 6270  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00250056232400080000
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070KC 004006
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
   VCID: 6D9229D8BC778B2932-8038

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 065 N    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 6501  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501511017434
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 3A38D28475B9EC91E7-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BH    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2463422A03C2461924724251C0800908
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 0542717884C75369DA-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels: 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 05061504651234
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EB01E94E11100B19B-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 Q    HW: 6R0 907 044 Q
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0615  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 41CAA568D86FBF49A6-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 B    HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H81 0744  
   Revision: B9081001    Serial number: 0982 352161294
   Coding: 3AB02BF848B30000013800007F6B9E9000C0600F608C0000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 51200 002 104857
   VCID: 2A18E2C445195C1197-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 271115 03  37  0059 
   Coding: 0368DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 EF    HW: 6R0 959 802 EF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  020 2551 
   Serial number: 13102848151112221545
   Coding: 050008

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 ED    HW: 6R0 959 801 ED  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  020 2551 
   Serial number: 13202849151112235703
   Coding: 0D0008

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 13 202 849 15    HW: 132 028 491 51
   Component: RLS 271115 03  37  1122 
   Serial number: ÿ132028491511122357
   Coding: 353730

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 S    HW: 6R0 959 811 S
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  019 1552 
   Serial number: 13202728151109234823
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 S    HW: 6R0 959 812 S
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  019 1552 
   Serial number: 13202729151110091329
   Coding: 020000

2 Faults Found:
01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 20
                    Mileage: 10366 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.04.13
                    Time: 00:18:58

00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 20
                    Mileage: 10366 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.04.13
                    Time: 00:18:58


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 J    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0105  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28261224902578
   Coding: 300101
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS.rod
   VCID: 393ACD88B8BFE789EE-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW012EG31
   Coding: 003036
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 49DABD48E85F77097E-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 920 870 A    HW: 6RD 920 870 A
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0805  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 47DEBB70FE4B817968-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744  
   Revision: B9081001    
   Coding: 002300
   Shop #: WSC 51200 002 104857
   VCID: 689C58CC9B95AE0141-803C

1 Fault Found:
01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 20
                    Mileage: 10366 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.04.13
                    Time: 00:18:58


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0805  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A9822C48D999C1157-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels: 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ECU       H61 1702  
   Coding: 0001000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014_VW12.rod
   VCID: 41CAA568D06FBF49A6-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 A    HW: 6RD 035 187 A
   Component: Radio         526 5215  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4Q5104032
   Coding: 00000440010000
   Shop #: WSC 00078 790 00236
   VCID: 45C2B178CC4793699A-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
   Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0011  
   Serial number: 30000000054715
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_VW51.rod
   VCID: 373ECBB08EABF1F918-8062

No fault code found.

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Re: Polo 6R 2016 Mod.

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The information provided is perfect. Thank you very much. 8)

As I predicted :lol: , your RDK system (High) does not work properly because the control unit is not suitable for the whole system.

It works correctly through the communication lines of the instrument cluster but is not compatible with the Gateway's communication network. (Autoscan)

We still do not know if the control unit coming from the NEW Amarok 2018 will work correctly on our 6R/T5.2/T6, etc... There is a high possibility that it works correctly, as long as it does not conflict with the ABS unit. I guess that firegrafik :wink: will be the first to confirm this.

The other faults displayed on the Autoscan and the reverse gear malfunction are normal due to the BCM exchange without the proper electrical installation.
Easily solvable with the suitable wires. These new wires will also serve to manage all the functions of the lights that are possible with your new BCM 7E0937090B ... and also they'll serve for the discoveries we have been making these years.

I'm going to make your wiring ... but before:

Are you absolutely sure you want to install the HBA system? (New stalks, new mirror with camera, etc ...)
Do you already know where to buy all the necessary parts?
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ciclo wrote: As I predicted :lol: , your RDK system (High) does not work properly because the control unit is not suitable for the whole system.
It works correctly through the communication lines of the instrument cluster but is not compatible with the Gateway's communication network. (Autoscan)
This is not entirely correct.Image .. :lol:

There is new info ...

Connect your RDKS unit to the CAN lines of powertrain and tell us the results.
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Your MFSW...

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 13 202 849 15 HW: 132 028 491 51
Component: RLS :!: 271115 03 37 1122
Serial number: :arrow: ÿ132028491511122357
Coding: 353730 :?: --> Try with... A4FFFF

Please give me all possible information from your multifunction steering wheel and airbag wiring. (Ref)


Please can you explain me these two wires? (below) and show me the link from where you learned these modifications.
Image

It is important. Surely you will not need them when you install my wiring. Thanks. :wink:

On the other hand, it is advisable to leave the codings as they were if you try to encode some function in some unit and it is not achieved.
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ciclo wrote:The information provided is perfect. Thank you very much. 8)

As I predicted :lol: , your RDK system (High) does not work properly because the control unit is not suitable for the whole system.

It works correctly through the communication lines of the instrument cluster but is not compatible with the Gateway's communication network. (Autoscan)

We still do not know if the control unit coming from the NEW Amarok 2018 will work correctly on our 6R/T5.2/T6, etc... There is a high possibility that it works correctly, as long as it does not conflict with the ABS unit. I guess that firegrafik :wink: will be the first to confirm this.

The other faults displayed on the Autoscan and the reverse gear malfunction are normal due to the BCM exchange without the proper electrical installation.
Easily solvable with the suitable wires. These new wires will also serve to manage all the functions of the lights that are possible with your new BCM 7E0937090B ... and also they'll serve for the discoveries we have been making these years.

I'm going to make your wiring ... but before:

Are you absolutely sure you want to install the HBA system? (New stalks, new mirror with camera, etc ...)
Do you already know where to buy all the necessary parts?
Hi. Thanks for reply. On second consideration HBA will make me sweat a lot so i guess I would not like to install that function.
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Re: Polo 6R 2016 Mod.

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ciclo wrote:
ciclo wrote: As I predicted :lol: , your RDK system (High) does not work properly because the control unit is not suitable for the whole system.
It works correctly through the communication lines of the instrument cluster but is not compatible with the Gateway's communication network. (Autoscan)
This is not entirely correct.Image .. :lol:

There is new info ...

Connect your RDKS unit to the CAN lines of powertrain and tell us the results.
Ok so the same thing happened with the OPS module also. I had first connected it to the extendes CAN & threw a lot of errors including ABS error.
Hence connected it to powertrain line and started working fine. You think thats the similar case with the TPMS module too? This TPMS module belongs to Passat B7 so was concerned if it will work on the powertrain line. However let me try what you suggested.
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ciclo wrote:Your MFSW...

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 13 202 849 15 HW: 132 028 491 51
Component: RLS :!: 271115 03 37 1122
Serial number: :arrow: ÿ132028491511122357
Coding: 353730 :?: --> Try with... A4FFFF

Please give me all possible information from your multifunction steering wheel and airbag wiring. (Ref)


Please can you explain me these two wires? (below) and show me the link from where you learned these modifications.
Image

It is important. Surely you will not need them when you install my wiring. Thanks. :wink:

On the other hand, it is advisable to leave the codings as they were if you try to encode some function in some unit and it is not achieved.
Ok. What will be the possible outcome with the new coding in RLS?

For the MFSW should i remove the air bag and take pictures of the wiring?

So the yellow wire is for roof light. My roof light has ambient light in it. And the Grey one is for the DRL in my front lights.
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rdasadia wrote:
Hi. Thanks for reply. On second consideration HBA will make me sweat a lot so i guess I would not like to install that function.
Ok, so without HBA wiring. :wink:
rdasadia wrote:
Ok so the same thing happened with the OPS module also. I had first connected it to the extendes CAN & threw a lot of errors including ABS error.
Hence connected it to powertrain line and started working fine. You think thats the similar case with the TPMS module too? This TPMS module belongs to Passat B7 so was concerned if it will work on the powertrain line. However let me try what you suggested.
'Someone' (not me) has already tested it and says that it works perfectly with the CAN lines of powertrain. Without VCDS faults. (The same unit as yours)

In any case you are in need of trying because through the CAN lines of instrument cluster will not improve in any way.
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rdasadia wrote:
ciclo wrote:Your MFSW...

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 13 202 849 15 HW: 132 028 491 51
Component: RLS :!: 271115 03 37 1122
Serial number: :arrow: ÿ132028491511122357
Coding: 353730 :?: --> Try with... A4FFFF
Ok. What will be the possible outcome with the new coding in RLS? Read red again. It is not related to the RLS (this works correctly on your 6R), the problem is with your MFSW ... (things that are learned with the experience :| )

For the MFSW should i remove the air bag and take pictures of the wiring?

So the yellow wire is for roof light. My roof light has ambient light in it. And the Grey one is for the DRL in my front lights.
You do not need to remove the steering wheel / airbag at the moment, do you have a link from where you bought it? Or some kind of information.

The yellow wire is on the correct place, but the splice is ...
There are very cheap Butt Terminals to make these types of splices in case you do not have the appropriate contact terminals and tools.

Permanent DRLs? Not is the right way.
The gray wire will have to disappear from that place. With the new installation you will have to make a right installation for your DRLs. OEM. With BCM control. (mandatory if you want DRLs)
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In addition to the Mod requirements in my first post i would really love to install the multi coloured instrument cluster of the 6C. Any suggestions?
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There are no suggestions because it is not possible.... impossible there is nothing, but I do not think you want to make a big mod to your 6R ... engine, ABS unit, etc, etc...
A new car is better option.

MFSW?
MFSW?
MFSW?
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ciclo wrote:There are no suggestions because it is not possible.... impossible there is nothing, but I do not think you want to make a big mod to your 6R ... engine, ABS unit, etc, etc...
A new car is better option.

MFSW?
MFSW?
MFSW?
Hi GM. I have PM you more details abt the MFSW and as for the new coding for sub section4 RLS the new coding is getting accepted but when I read the module again the coding stays the same as before.
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Re: Polo 6R 2016 Mod.

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The 7E0 937 090B will not always support the LED headlights from Polo 6C
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iichel wrote:The 7E0 937 090B will not always support the LED headlights from Polo 6C
So you suggesting to to put the bixenon lights?
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