Retrofit Steering with Paddles to Polo 1.6 (Aisin GB)

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Retrofit Steering with Paddles to Polo 1.6 (Aisin GB)

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Hi all,

I am planning to retrofit a steering with paddle shifters to my current Polo 1.6 MPI running on a Aisin 09G transmission. My original steering is with MSFW but w/o paddles.

I have installed the new steering successfully. Backlights are lit. However paddles are not responding despite playing around with the coding. No signals responded from pressing both paddles.

Upon checking the TCM, I note that pin 13 & 19 is empty. Based on research from the web, these 2 pins should be relevant for paddles to work.

My question is, where do these 2 pins connect to? And what coding is appropriate for this?

Much appreciated if any kind souls could guide me on this.
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Re: Retrofit Steering with Paddles to Polo 1.6 (Aisin GB)

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Welcome,
VCDS autoscan (full), and steering wheel image installed and running.
bladekiller wrote: Upon checking the TCM, I note that pin 13 & 19 is empty. Based on research from the web, these 2 pins should be relevant for paddles to work.

My question is, where do these 2 pins connect to? And what coding is appropriate for this?
Link me to this information. Thanks
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ciclo wrote: Tue May 16, 2017 11:05 am Welcome,
VCDS autoscan (full), and steering wheel image installed and running.
bladekiller wrote: Upon checking the TCM, I note that pin 13 & 19 is empty. Based on research from the web, these 2 pins should be relevant for paddles to work.

My question is, where do these 2 pins connect to? And what coding is appropriate for this?
Link me to this information. Thanks
Hi, thanks for the reply

I will need to head to a shop to get the full Scan done up.

In the meantime, any idea what pin size does the TCM requires? My technician confirmed its due to missing wires.
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This is the TCM picture.

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bladekiller wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 3:26 am I will need to head to a shop to get the full Scan done up.
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bladekiller wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 3:26 am My technician confirmed its due to missing wires.
:shock:....
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Steering wheel installed
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Re: Retrofit Steering with Paddles to Polo 1.6 (Aisin GB)

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Great!!!
What is part number of your existing steering?
Is the one with paddles installed is : 6C0 419 091H?
Did your existing airbag work?
What is your current BCM?

I have a 2015 Model year vw polo 6c 1.2 TSi DSG
And I am in for exact same DIY.

Any more photos or videos of this would be great.
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ag69 wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 10:29 am Great!!!
What is part number of your existing steering?
Is the one with paddles installed is : 6C0 419 091H?
Did your existing airbag work?
What is your current BCM?

I have a 2015 Model year vw polo 6c 1.2 TSi DSG
And I am in for exact same DIY.

Any more photos or videos of this would be great.
I got my friend to install these for me. Original steering looks the same, just without paddles. Airbag just plug n play with the existing one.
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Thanks for reply.
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Just to share, i upgraded my steering wheel to paddle shifters last time without any needs for new wires. Mine is dsg and "tiptronic" feature is already available from the gear knob hence i believe it was plug n play for me.

But not sure if the normal AT gearbox from aisin is capable of this.


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benzinkopf wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 6:50 pm Just to share, i upgraded my steering wheel to paddle shifters last time without any needs for new wires. Mine is dsg and "tiptronic" feature is already available from the gear knob hence i believe it was plug n play for me.

But not sure if the normal AT gearbox from aisin is capable of this.


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I think the AisinGB is capable. Just that the variant sold in my country has removed the wires for that function to save costs..
Now just a matter of putting the wires back and coding..
If I recall, the old Touareg can be a good reference.
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MFSW unit:
Byte0 Bit0-->Enabled.

Test it, and tell us the result.
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ag69 wrote: Sun May 28, 2017 1:07 pm Thanks for reply.
You should keep in mind that in this topic we are talking about a Polo 6R and you have a Polo 6C. They are very different electronically speaking.
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yes Ciclo, You are right. I did noticed it.

All information/data shared here (on entire forum) is one way or another very useful.
Sort of theory work for my planned upgrades.
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Re: Retrofit Steering with Paddles to Polo 1.6 (Aisin GB)

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Hi Ciclo,

I fitted the normal flat bottom mfsw for polo 6r 2013 comfortline , which doesnt have airbags,
I upgraded the slip rings and combination switches and took the line from BCM and 12 + and enabled the switches to work,
the control buttons are working pretty fine ,but there is no backlight for the button , is there any work aorund or solution for this without uprading the BCM ?
i have noticed the same thing has been done by changin smething in airbag harnes or somewhere and enabling the backlight,
only thing the light glows in the ACC.
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