Polo 6C BiXenon Retrofit

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Polo 6C BiXenon Retrofit

Post by Eduard » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:23 pm

Hello!

I decided to make a new topic ( hoping that it would -- maybe -- get more attention ) after reading ciclo's thread regarding this. I basically dream of having BiXenon installed on my car ... therefore I went on and bought the following:

- OEM BiXenon headlights :: 6R1941031D & 6R1941032D
- Halogen to Xenon conversion wiring :: https://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/Volkswag ... VW-Polo-6R
- Autoleveling kit ( from kufatec ) :: https://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/volkswag ... vw-polo-6r

I've bought and installed a new OEM front bumper with headlight washers, bought the whole washer system with the new cannister, secondary pump, hoses and washers.
Installed all of them ( just not the wiring, as I'm not sure what goes where )

For the time being I would be thankful to only get the headlights working .. without AFS or Auto-Leveling as I know that might require a new BCM

My car's VIN is WVWZZZ6RZFY146XXX and an autoscan can be found here: https://pastebin.com/HN6Vk5Be

Please advise if you guys need any info from me ... thanks!
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Re: Polo 6C BiXenon DIY Help.

Post by iichel » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:42 am

So he is LHD

AFS will work on all bcms, the bcm controls lighting for the LED DRL and xenon. That's why sometimes it needs upgrade

Autoscan:

Code: Select all


Chassis Type: 6R (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 44 5F
 
Mileage: 27512km-17095miles
 
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J000-CUSA)       Labels: 04B-907-445-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04B 906 027     HW: 04B 907 445
   Component: R3 1,4 DCM6.2 H07 8205  
   Revision: 21003001    
   Coding: 01114012432401080000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TDI03004B906027 003019
   ROD: EV_ECM14TDI03004B997027B.rod
   VCID: 5EB3F85D41E606B1BB-800A
 
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 G    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0003  
   Serial number: 08503245140827
   Coding: 21DD2485892733C6091610720051842491CC90080007C9098F00
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100018
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
   VCID: 336579E99AE4FBD924-8066
 
No fault code found.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J65)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6C0 819 045 C    HW: 6C0 819 045 C
   Component: Heizung       H02 0103  
   Serial number:  1405291B-1136
   Coding: 201000000000000200
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HZGManueHMMValeoPQ26 001001
   ROD: EV_HZGManueHMMValeoPQ26_VW26.rod
   VCID: 275D9DB95E3C877988-8072
 
No fault code found.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None
   Part No HW: 6C0 937 089
   Component: BCM PQ26 Hi4R H06 0047  
   Serial number: 009458017422
   Coding: 000008404253005B4B8440004007038800005B0251010000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 004003
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_004_VW26.rod
   VCID: 55A1E77134D0C5E9EA-8000
 
   Drivers Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AT    HW: 6R0 959 801 AT  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8612
   Serial number: KU0KU001091442441673
   Coding: 0400A0
 
   Front Passengers Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BE    HW: 6R0 959 802 BE  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8612
   Serial number: KU0KU003091442468341
   Coding: 1400A0
 
   Drivers Door Rear Control Module:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 N    HW: 6R0 959 811 N
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  003 8610
   Serial number: KU0KU009091442525731
   Coding: 0400A0
 
   Passengers Rear Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 N    HW: 6R0 959 812 N
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  003 8610
   Serial number: KU0KU010091442532611
   Coding: 1400A0
 
No fault code found.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 6C0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 A    HW: 6C0 959 655 A
   Component: VW20Airbag00Z 001 0330  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003LM004MBGD
   Coding: 88C0C000000000005C000000000800000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 316973E160F8C9C956-8064
 
   Side Sensor Driver Front:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 308 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800
   Serial number: 3575H00BB15739C1930N
   Coding: 2D2D2D
 
   Side Sensor Passenger Front:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 308 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800
   Serial number: 3585H00062837AA1D2AO
   Coding: 2D2D2D
 
   Side Sensor Driver Rear:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 150 609 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148
   Serial number: 3517A00C31725223B22Z
   Coding: 2D2D2D
 
   Side Sensor Passenger Rear:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 150 609 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148
   Serial number: 3527A00C31725220B17.
   Coding: 2D2D2D
 
No fault code found.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 920 741 A    HW: 6C0 920 741 A
   Component: KOMBI         211 0290  
   Coding: 472509002180000800083A001000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009040
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 214983A130187949C6-8074
 
No fault code found.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 909 901     HW: 6C0 937 089
   Component: GW MQB A0     H06 0047  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 009458017422
   Coding: 030100044F0A590071000000000000010001000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 001001
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_VW26.rod
   VCID: 65C1D7B164B055697A-8030
 
   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019
   Serial number: 2411422172402137AD1B
   Coding: 280000
 
   Battery Monitoring Control Module:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181 A    HW: 6C0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223
   Serial number: 61247G58362821697892
 
1 Fault Found:
197175 - Control unit for battery monitoring
          U1050 00 [008] - No Communication
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 47
                    Reset counter: 14
                    Mileage: 27320 km
                    Date: 2017.06.26
                    Time: 00:00:02
 
                    Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 12.5 V
                    Terminal 15: OFF
 
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels: 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 M    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3211  
   Serial number: PE9J0052
   Coding: 0007
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 326B7CED65FEF2D12F-8066
 
No fault code found.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 035 869 B    HW: 6C0 035 869 B
   Component: MU-E--ER      820 6220  
   Serial number: 26081400010666
   Coding: 02620000BE00000041110001000000001F0004840000010000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001017
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW12.rod
   VCID: 2A5B648D4D2EBA1197-807E
 
No fault code found.
Furthermore I'd like you to ask to keep it in one topic. This way all information is on one location. That makes it a lot easier for everyone

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Re: Polo 6C BiXenon DIY Help.

Post by Eduard » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:49 am

Regarding keeping stuff in one topic, I can only agree. Though i figured it’s best to just make a separate topic on my issue hoping it would get in someone’s way hehe.

By any chance can you PM me with ciclo’s email, or maybe nudge him directly so he can take a look as well ? Hopefully he’s interested in a side project like this or maybe he has any friends who might have dealt wih this ... I can only hope

And yes, I am a Romanian ( LHD here ).
Best regards!

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Re: Polo 6C BiXenon DIY Help.

Post by iichel » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:10 am

I will not send you his email. From what I've heard, he's busy enough as it is and whenever he can help, I'm sure he'll answer in the topic.

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Re: Polo 6C BiXenon DIY Help.

Post by Eduard » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:50 am

Sure, understood. Will just wait then, thanks!

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Re: Polo 6C BiXenon Retrofit

Post by Eduard » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:11 pm

OK so, after 2 months of research and getting better at retrofiting ( :lol: ) I've figured out how I can ( finally ) fully retrofit the AFS / BiXenon on my own ( of course, with the knowledge acquired from many, like DV25, iichel, ciclo ( big thanks for the car's diagrams )

Basically, I just bought 2 T14 connectors and some terminals, since there are no new cables that I'm aware of, needed. ( aside AFS as I'm not detailing that now )

So, I went on and split the following:
- 5 to 5 and 7 ( groundings )
- 6 to 6 ( main beam )
- 8 to 11 ( dip beam screen motor ) Though I guess this is not needed since AFS is taking control of headlights ?
- 9 to 9 ( turn signal )

Then it's 3 more slots towards which I redirected the cables from the front bumper as follows:
- 10 <- DRL ( got the DRL wire from the bumper )
- 12 <- Side light ( also known as parking light ) - got the "old" wire from the 10 pin connector, as it had parking lights under PIN 10
- 14 <- Static Cornering ( got the fog lights cable -- which also acts as cornering in my case )

Did the coding to change from Halogen to Xenon with AFS, also changed Low beam bulb type to HID instead H7 ( under byte 5 ), so we got:
-- low / high beams working ( shutter ) :shock:
-- static cornering lights into the headlight :wink:

The only issue is, DRL does not work ... I know the LED module within the headlight gets PIN 10 ( normal DRL from bumper ) and PIN 12 ( former side light ) but ... I still get errors in the dashboard regarding the lack of DRL and Side lights ( on both sides ).

QUESTIONS:
1. Are there other changes/codings I need to do ? I'm sure there is no cable issue since it was just a matter of rearranging the cables on the connector end, nothing changed BCM side.
2. Since the static cornering lights are active via the fog lights, I connected these to the headlight. Is it supposed to work like this ? ( having static cornering and fog lights inside the headlight ? ). Or is there some setting to separate there two. Didn't see "different" slots in the BCM terminals but there is some confusion in the schema.

Basically, the static cornering lights show t46b/7 and t46b/42 as connectors, but these are for Right / Left headlight main beam bulb -M30-, terminal 56a. So I guess .. there must be a setting to separate cornering from fog lights, so then I can have the fog lights, separate, in the front bumper ? ( made wiring for that as well ).

OLD ( 10 PIN connector schema ): https://i.imgur.com/2w2GLox.png
NEW ( 14 PIN connector schema ) : https://i.imgur.com/aDgbvk7.png

I'll test the cables from the DRL for voltage and see what they get .. maybe something's wrong there. Any way I can test the LED module ?

Thanks for taking time to do such a long read ..

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Re: Polo 6C BiXenon Retrofit

Post by Whiteinc » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:28 pm

Did you fit the dayrunning light pins in the T46B slot 6 and 43? :D

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Re: Polo 6C BiXenon Retrofit

Post by Eduard » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:55 pm

I just routed the DRL wires from the bumper to T14/10, so I'm sure the wires are fine .. then I've placed the parking light ( from old headlight ) into T14/12 ... so I'm not sure if the DRLs should work just like that, or need some kind of coding ?

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Re: Polo 6C BiXenon Retrofit

Post by Eduard » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:10 am

By any chance, you guys out there who went from halogen to xenon, did you have to do any adaptation channels coding in order to get the DRL working ? Given the old parking light is such a small consumer, I tend to think adaptation channels might need some change to the "load_type" ( watts ) on that wire ?

Please let me know as my DRLs are not working just by plugging the old wires in.

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