Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
Nooit te bang, man!
Really when the wiring is in front of you, it's much easier to Investigate than when you're upside downin inside of the car.
I know that this is not the best option, but cables can always be extended.
by the way in the originl wiring loom there are a lot of extentions/connections.
So i will try to use those wires. I think i have all necessary things now
Really when the wiring is in front of you, it's much easier to Investigate than when you're upside downin inside of the car.
I know that this is not the best option, but cables can always be extended.
by the way in the originl wiring loom there are a lot of extentions/connections.
So i will try to use those wires. I think i have all necessary things now
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
Of course. Sharing is the main reason for everything.MaDwArLoCk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:15 pm So i will study some more topics and i will try to do it all myself!
With your advices i hope!
hmm... did you try https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing from here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
...or this? viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70182#p523706 ...this... yeees ...
Perfect x2.MaDwArLoCk wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:15 pm What do you think about my purchase?
Can i use "449" relay for CH/LH?
With good tools and personal skills? I do not think so.
Black and Red connetors + contact terminals ?
On second thought --------, you can do it without these connectors...
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
Thanks, Ciclo!
I think I can do it without those connectors!
I'll try to prepare something at this weekend!
I think I can do it without those connectors!
I'll try to prepare something at this weekend!
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
I'm sure we'll achieve it, it's a simple kids puzzle.
Do it correctly. The new wire from T73a/45 to the light switch connector is very important.
All this is perfectly explained in the guide (with images).
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Only for info:
Your actual light switch connector (T17)
This is a hell... , and you do not have to look at it again, follow the installation guide.
Do it correctly. The new wire from T73a/45 to the light switch connector is very important.
All this is perfectly explained in the guide (with images).
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Only for info:
Your actual light switch connector (T17)
This is a hell... , and you do not have to look at it again, follow the installation guide.
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
In process...
I have a question about License plate light.
In the original wiring loom from T37B/7 going straight to license plate.
But in your wiring it should be T37B/7 - T17/16.
If I will connect it straight to License plate light, What should I do with T17/16?
I have a question about License plate light.
In the original wiring loom from T37B/7 going straight to license plate.
But in your wiring it should be T37B/7 - T17/16.
If I will connect it straight to License plate light, What should I do with T17/16?
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
MaDwArLoCk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:13 am In process...
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I have a question about License plate light.
1. In the original wiring loom from T37B/7 going straight to license plate. ...(73)...
2. But in your wiring it should be T37B/7 - T17/16.
3. If I will connect it straight to License plate light, What should I do with T17/16?
A picture really interesting. Thank you very much. (downloaded)
1. Right.
2. Is an efficient way to power the plates lights with the original wiring when making this modification to install BCM Max on 6R Europe (2009-2014).
Note: bla,bla,bla..... in the easiest way possible.
In your original wiring without BCM Max, light switch output T17/16 feeds or provides signal to several systems. Among others, Dimmer T6/3, BCM T73a/45, and license plate lights.
Therefore... as clear as water, ... during the process you already have isolated the other systems in your original installation without BCM Max, except LPLs.
The trick is perfectly ready to be used.
3. Isolate.
Yes. Exactly the same connections.MaDwArLoCk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:16 am It will be not the same connections for 449 relays?
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646=449
3=1
5=2
1=3
2=5
Is it correct?
It's correct.
The numbering written on the relay adapters is not the key, there are several identical or similar adapters with different slot numbers.
The important thing is written on/beside the relay pins (and lateral scheme).
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
Your Autoscan
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70182#p523698
H7 headlights + Fog lights without BCM control(factory)
BCM Max + Automatic lights + LED Plate lights (note: without Bixenon, therefore, without cornering lights, and without DRLs)
New BCM coding:
24B02BBF48E3240093300FB02CEB1ED01BC0610E60042001200000030000
New RLS coding:
06302D
There should be no faults related to the lights if the electrical installation is correct, and the lights should work properly. All functions.
Post a new autoscan with results.
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70182#p523698
H7 headlights + Fog lights without BCM control(factory)
BCM Max + Automatic lights + LED Plate lights (note: without Bixenon, therefore, without cornering lights, and without DRLs)
New BCM coding:
24B02BBF48E3240093300FB02CEB1ED01BC0610E60042001200000030000
New RLS coding:
06302D
There should be no faults related to the lights if the electrical installation is correct, and the lights should work properly. All functions.
Post a new autoscan with results.
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
He hey! It's working!
Thanks a lot, Ciclo!
Now i have only one fault in Bcm:
02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
i made new dimmer cable T6/3 - T73B/1.
What can be wrong?
And 61-Battery Regul. and 0B.Sec Air Heating is still here
Thanks a lot, Ciclo!
Now i have only one fault in Bcm:
02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
i made new dimmer cable T6/3 - T73B/1.
What can be wrong?
And 61-Battery Regul. and 0B.Sec Air Heating is still here
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Sunday,20,August,2017,14:46:43:39744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU000000 License Plate:
Mileage: 156960km-97530mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 6R (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 37 44 56 77 0B
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU000000 Mileage: 156960km-97530miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB) Labels: 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
Part No SW: 03F 906 070 D HW: 03F 906 070 D
Component: SIMOS10.20H02 9851
Revision: -------- Serial number:
Coding: 001900D6202400080000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12FTS02103F906070D 003015
ROD: N/A
VCID: 234234CE2A4EB859D4-8076
No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM12FTS02103F906070D" (VW25)
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AF HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0005
Revision: --------
Coding: 210228E3227300BA842C14E844D600401300
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
VCID: 020C514A99945151FF-8056
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H HW: 6R0 907 044 H
Component: Climatronic H11 0711
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 3878F3A28BC8CB8111-806C
3 Faults Found:
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 11
Mileage: 156745 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.01.07
Time: 00:16:08
01272 - Positioning Motor for Central Flap (V70)
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 11
Mileage: 156745 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.01.07
Time: 00:16:08
00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 51
Mileage: 156965 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.01.11
Time: 00:14:18
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 B HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0712
Revision: B9074001 Serial number: 0571 017140713
Coding: 24B02BBF48E3240093300FB02CEB1ED01BC0610E60042001200000030000
Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 2D56D2F6748A7E2972-8078
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 210310 05 54 0403
Coding: 06302D
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 R HW: 6R0 959 801 R Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 006 0903
Serial number: KU0-KU028.04.1013935
Coding: 18BC30
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 T HW: 6R0 959 802 T Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU030.04.1010613
Coding: 08BC30
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H11 9004
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 F HW: 6R0 959 811 F
Component: J388__TSG_HL 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU026.04.1016866
Coding: 08BC32
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 F HW: 6R0 959 812 F
Component: J389__TSG_HR 006 0902
Serial number: KU0-KU020.04.1013618
Coding: 08BC32
1 Fault Found:
02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 51
Mileage: 156965 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.01.11
Time: 00:14:19
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 6R0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 A HW: 7E0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 4K H10 0011
Revision: -------- Serial number: 64531012301615
Coding: 100003
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAsiss2 S01008
ROD: N/A
VCID: 3C70EFB2B7F0E7A1F5-8068
No ASAM data for: "EV_VW250ParkiAsiss2" (VW25)
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag00K H08 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX002F4VI
Coding: 00304B
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
ASAM Dataset: EV_AibraVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: N/A
VCID: 4A9CB96AED24491177-801E
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3572SRB40000B53459C7
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3582SRB40000B520C0C1
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3515RRB405D6QGG0HO90
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3525RRB405B6SD5OFPMN
No ASAM data for: "EV_AibraVW10BPAVW250" (VW25)
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 860 D HW: 6R0 920 860 D
Component: KOMBI H03 0207
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140800
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
VCID: 3566FA9694DA36E90A-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0712
Revision: B9074001
Coding: 002200
Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 70E80B82A33853C119-8024
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H03 0207
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_DVD_RM09 A03006
ROD: N/A
VCID: 6ADC19EA8DE4A91157-803E
No ASAM data for: "EV_Immo_UDS_DVD_RM09" (VW36 *)
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R HW: 1T0 035 680 R
Component: RNS-MID H21 6270
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7N8319084
Coding: 040104020100002C0001
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3D76E2B6A4EAEEA9C2-8068
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V14 8477
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11230
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 2F6AC8FEEA860C3940-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R HW: 1T0 035 680 R
Component: RNS-MID H21 6270
Coding: 040104020100002C0001
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 3D76E2B6A4EAEEA9C2-8068
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
Component: EU West V14
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 D HW: 7P6 035 730 D
Component: TELEFON H05 0440
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007668399469
Coding: 0A00000000010110
Shop #: WSC 05314 115 12345
ASAM Dataset: UHVAN A01007
ROD: N/A
VCID: 3362C48E9AAE28D924-8066
No ASAM data for: "UHVAN" (VW36 *)
No fault code found.
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
Dimmer, High beam and rear fog lamp doesn't work
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
High beam: check wiring to relay. Hear click when low beam engages.
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
What about dimmer? Maybe try to connect it to T73B/4?
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Re: Cross Polo 6R Upgrading to BCM Max with Auto light switch
I think b4 is for 7E0 but you can have a try