RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento

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Nikhil wrote:Hi.

I have installed BCM MAX 090 D in Polo sedan in India. Shardul is my friend. The car is same like sharduls car except it have normal fog lamps while sharduls car have cornering fog lamps. I have just changed canbus lines from bcm to instrument cluster for now. I have done same thing on one more car but it was manual transmission car. Issue is after bcm max reverse light stoped working. Its a dsg car. I tried everything possible but not able to get power for reverse light. Old bcm works perfect for reverse light. If reverse light issue get solved i am planning to install bixenon headlights with headlight adaptation wiring.
@ Ciclo & iichel please help him out...
Nikhil BCM is 090C I guess...


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Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento

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smg_shardul wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:12 pm
Nikhil wrote:Hi.

I have installed BCM MAX 090 D in Polo sedan in India. Shardul is my friend. The car is same like sharduls car except it have normal fog lamps while sharduls car have cornering fog lamps. I have just changed canbus lines from bcm to instrument cluster for now. I have done same thing on one more car but it was manual transmission car. Issue is after bcm max reverse light stoped working. Its a dsg car. I tried everything possible but not able to get power for reverse light. Old bcm works perfect for reverse light. If reverse light issue get solved i am planning to install bixenon headlights with headlight adaptation wiring.
@ Ciclo & iichel please help him out...
Nikhil BCM is 090C I guess...
I suppose he has previous series BCM 7H0937090D.
It has to retrofit light wiring to the OEM diagrams with max BCM. The power for reverse light on max BCM is taken from another pin.
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firegrafik wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:45 pm The power for reverse light on max BCM is taken from another pin.
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smg_shardul wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:12 pm
Nikhil wrote:Hi.

I have installed BCM MAX 090 D in Polo sedan in India. Shardul is my friend. The car is same like sharduls car except it have normal fog lamps while sharduls car have cornering fog lamps. I have just changed canbus lines from bcm to instrument cluster for now. I have done same thing on one more car but it was manual transmission car. Issue is after bcm max reverse light stoped working. Its a dsg car. I tried everything possible but not able to get power for reverse light. Old bcm works perfect for reverse light. If reverse light issue get solved i am planning to install bixenon headlights with headlight adaptation wiring.
@ Ciclo & iichel please help him out...
Nikhil BCM is 090C I guess...
Of course. :wink:

When MT:
- you must add a new 1.0 mm2 wire from T73b/12 BCM white connector to T5/1 Left Taillight connector. Isolate original T5/1.
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Re: RLS ,CH/LH , Auto lights , Rain sensing wiper & Auto dimming Rear view mirror on Vento

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Sorry BCM is 090 C .

Thanks ciclo and firegrafik but car is DSG Automatic so T73B/12 to T5/1 Wire is already present. In manual transmission also there is no need to add wire From T73B/12 to T5/1 unless we want to make reverse light bcm controlled (We done it in two cars in our group). I have checked pin no 12 in white connector with multimeter there is no voltage when car is in reverse gear. When i install old Bcm back Reverse Light starts working :roll: . I am posting autoscan of Polo Sedan in which reverse light is not workng.

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VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
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Workshop Code: 648 00788 000255

VIN: MEXA15604FT070170   License Plate: POLO Sedan
Mileage: 21270km-13216mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 60-VW26 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: MEXA15604FT070170   Mileage: 21270km-13216miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 KC    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 6270  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00250056232400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00793 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070KC 004006
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
   VCID: 6DD1F263BC42842CC3-8038

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 065 N    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 6502  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501411275963
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 64455 001 1048576
   VCID: 3A7B093F758CE39416-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BH    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2C63412A07C0461534708251E0800904
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003020
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 0501AAC384F25C6C2B-8050

No ASAM data for: "EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH" (VW26) 
No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H06 0060  
   Serial number: 090465LHU00004
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EF3C52FE1240FB46A-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 P    HW: 6R0 907 044 P
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0614  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 408F7BD7D350B94458-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 C    HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 4000 322171532
   Coding: 3A904AB808A10000003800C03C099490F0C041FF60040000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 2B553C7B4AD64A1C9D-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AL    HW: 6R0 959 802 AL  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: -------------  006 5520 
   Serial number: 13202576141106003903
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AH    HW: 6R0 959 801 AH  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: -------------  006 5520 
   Serial number: 13202579141105210618
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 13 202 579 14    HW: 132 025 791 41
1052 
   Serial number: ÿ132025791411052106
   Coding: 303631

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L    HW: 6R0 959 811 L
   Component: -------------  006 5520 
   Serial number: 13202580141020160648
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L    HW: 6R0 959 812 L
   Component: -------------  006 5520 
   Serial number: 13102581141106053736
   Coding: 020000

4 Faults Found:
03431 - Activation of Left Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Mileage: 21269 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.17
                    Time: 04:14:19

03432 - Activation of Right Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Mileage: 21269 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.17
                    Time: 04:14:19

01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Mileage: 21269 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.17
                    Time: 04:04:12

00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Mileage: 21269 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.17
                    Time: 04:04:12


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 K    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H03 0106  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35821404004439
   Coding: 300001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis4K 001004
   ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis4K_001.rod
   VCID: 3A7B093FBD8CE39416-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW00WKAN7
   Coding: 003036
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 499966F3E86A780C8F-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6RF 920 860 Q    HW: 6RF 920 860 Q
   Component: KOMBI         H02 0152  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140800
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04719
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 58BFB3B723C0118400-800C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    
   Coding: 102300
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 68DF83779BA0A104B0-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H02 0152  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6ADBF97F8DAC9314A6-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ECU       H61 1702  
   Coding: 0001000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014.rod
   VCID: 41897ED3D05AB04C57-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 A    HW: 6RD 035 187 A
   Component: MIB2-S-R-CN   025 0210  
   Revision: -----001    Serial number: 03925GD0082306
   Coding: 0000040001000A
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 45816AC3CC729C6C6B-8010

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 6
                    Mileage: 21271 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.03.17
                    Time: 04:45:01


End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:29)--------------------------
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I apologize, I misunderstood what you wrote. Culprit. :oops:

Well, the problem is that you have to feed the pins 63a and 68b of BCM connectors so that in turn will feed most of the lights, including the reversing light.
In short, you must do an installation like the one Shardul did.

In these wires lies your problem (the 4 faults in autoscan + reversing light):
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This is the installation guide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
You must install all wires that are shown in this guide.
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Thank you.
I am planning for full Bcm adaptation in a month.
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Hi ciclo , Firegrafics & iichel
I want to install AFS to my vento (polo sedan )
My vento is fitted with Bixenon with led DRL
Module , sensor , sensor bracket I got
I want to make it's wire can you help me to get connectors of module,sensor and it's wiring diagram?
Thanks in advance
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I don't have the AFS diagrams for POLO sedan, but the following are applicable.

J431 control unit. T26.

left bixenon headlight
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing

right bixenon headlight. G76 = rear sensor.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing

+15 T26/23. Ground. Powertrain CAN-lines.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing


I think firegrafik is the most indicated to tell you what parts you need.
The parts needed for AFS Polo 6R Sedan are not the same as for the Polo 6R hatchback.


More info here :arrow: https://www.drive2.ru/l/7316241/
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ciclo wrote:I don't have the AFS diagrams for POLO sedan, but the following are applicable.

J431 control unit. T26.

left bixenon headlight
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing

right bixenon headlight. G76 = rear sensor.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing

+15 T26/23. Ground. Powertrain CAN-lines.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing


I think firegrafik is the most indicated to tell you what parts you need.
The parts needed for AFS Polo 6R Sedan are not the same as for the Polo 6R hatchback.


More info here :arrow: https://www.drive2.ru/l/7316241/
Thanks a lot fir reply ciclo
I have few questions
Is level sensor & it's T4 connector common to all cars like Jetta , golf ,Passat etc...?
For power supply to AFS Module we need to take directly from fuse box terminal 15 to T26/23?


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ciclo wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 8:52 pm .....

I think firegrafik is the most indicated to tell you what parts you need.
The parts needed for AFS Polo 6R Sedan are not the same as for the Polo 6R hatchback.


More info here :arrow: https://www.drive2.ru/l/7316241/
Unfortunately I haven't still finished wiring from AFS unit to the sensor. Need car every day. Hope to finish it as soon as possible.
But I will make some notes.
Polo 6R Sedan manufactured before 09.2011 had the rear axle same as Golf 4 and Zzzhuk's AFS part list is similar to Golf 4.
Zzzhuk's Polo is 2014 m.y. but he had installed rear disk brakes, and for this he had to change rear axle which supports disk brakes.
https://www.drive2.ru/l/6484810/
Axles for Polo 6R hatch and sedan are different.
Polo 6R Sedan (Vento) after 2015 M.y. got another axle,AFS sensor mounting way, AFS control unit.
So this report should be taken into consideration
https://www.drive2.ru/l/10464965/
The problem is the there are several axles are offered for Polo 6R sedan (PR-1KH or 1KT, and PR-8Q1 or 8Q3) it is 4 axle part numbers. And in best way you should have axle with PR-1KT, 8Q3. When I retrofited rear disk brakes I bought such axle
Image

Russian version of the wiring diagrams for Polo 6R Sedan and Vento after 2015 is here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxlU59 ... FEM1E/view
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firegrafik wrote:
ciclo wrote: Wed May 02, 2018 8:52 pm .....

I think firegrafik is the most indicated to tell you what parts you need.
The parts needed for AFS Polo 6R Sedan are not the same as for the Polo 6R hatchback.


More info here :arrow: https://www.drive2.ru/l/7316241/
Unfortunately I haven't still finished wiring from AFS unit to the sensor. Need car every day. Hope to finish it as soon as possible.
But I will make some notes.
Polo 6R Sedan manufactured before 09.2011 had the rear axle same as Golf 4 and Zzzhuk's AFS part list is similar to Golf 4.
Zzzhuk's Polo is 2014 m.y. but he had installed rear disk brakes, and for this he had to change rear axle which supports disk brakes.
https://www.drive2.ru/l/6484810/
Axles for Polo 6R hatch and sedan are different.
Polo 6R Sedan (Vento) after 2015 M.y. got another axle,AFS sensor mounting way, AFS control unit.
So this report should be taken into consideration
https://www.drive2.ru/l/10464965/

Russian version of the wiring diagrams for Polo 6R Sedan and Vento after 2015 is here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxlU59 ... FEM1E/view
Thanks a lot firegrafik for your reply
I need to take level sensor 6R0 512 521A as my car is polo sedan other cars sensor won't fit?
What about it's T4 connector is it same like all cars ?

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smg_shardul wrote: Thu May 03, 2018 5:05 am

What about it's T4 connector is it same like all cars ?

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ciclo wrote: Thu May 03, 2018 6:13 am https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing

6R0907357C Z0A (8IG Bixenon)
Btw, VagCanPro has zdc container for 6R0907357C control unit parametrization. For ABS (Z0D) or ESP (Z0A)
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Yes. :wink:
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