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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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It fits perfectly with the correct parts, in the ETKA you have the solution. Anyway it's a very popular modification, search on the forum or other forums.

I suppose that in a "near future" (relative time) all we'll have implanted a USB connection in the brain and we will have more free time. :lol:
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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ciclo wrote:It fits perfectly with the correct parts, in the ETKA you have the solution. Anyway it's a very popular modification, search on the forum or other forums.

I suppose that in a "near future" (relative time) all we'll have implanted a USB connection in the brain and we will have more free time. :lol:
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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Thank you! I had a look on on-line etka but couldn't find R-line bumper, only normal and cross. :? I tried different models / years but w/o result!

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That picture above is a bit scary! :lol:
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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PR codes:

2JP = R Line
2JE = BlueGT
2JD = GTI
2JQ = WRC

Example:
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If you want the glossy black front grilles for R Line front bumper :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&p=494022#p494022
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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Thanks Ciclo I did not know about this code extensions.

Yes I want the glossy black covers you bought looks simply awesome :!:
I suppose paiting those kind of plastic will not get nice result because this parts could be not paintable. :wink:
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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Hi guys, I am having some troubles with GPL: car auto switch to GPL and immediately switch back to petrol.

An extract from autoscan (full report below) shows that:
1 Fault Found:
013190 - Low Pressure Gas Sensor (G401)
4 months ago I had same problem which was solved replacing the GPL sensor named "Bosh 281002456"

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I can't belive I have to replace it again after 4 months of use.. :(
Any suggestions what's happening?

Thanks :wink:

Full autoscan below:

Code: Select all

VCDS Version: Release 15.7.1 Running on Windows XP x86
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com

Tuesday,19,December,2017,02:23:31:05031

Chassis Type: 6R (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY543xxx   Mileage: 64370km-39997miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CNKA)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03C 906 014 BD    HW: 03C 906 014 BD
   Component: CNKA-MM7GV-G  H02 0561  
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00110014002400080000
   Shop #: WSC 62297 001 1048576
   VCID: 60C838AF7050043E3D-5072

1 Fault Found:
013190 - Low Pressure Gas Sensor (G401) 
               P3386 - 000 - Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 220
                    Mileage: 64378 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.05.11
                    Time: 02:09:06

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Lambda: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 89.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1005.8 mbar
                    RPM: 0 /min

Readiness: 0110 0001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BC    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0002  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210224E3217100B5842524E484D700401300
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 0008182F9710A43E5D-8054

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 N    HW: 6R0 820 045 N
   Component: Man AC        H02 0202  
   Revision: 0003SH02    
   VCID: 397EB5CBB04A35F65A-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0254  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0434 009122110
   Coding: 3CB02BBF08E10600923808006D2B0CD100C0412F60860000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 4586C93BCCB241162E-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB    HW: 6R0 959 801 AB  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  008 1611 
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD    HW: 6R0 959 802 AD  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  008 1611 
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037 
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   Coding: 08BC32

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 220
                    Mileage: 64378 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.05.11
                    Time: 02:20:47


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 K    HW: 56D 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H02 0106  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 20251528901029
   Coding: 100001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAsssi4K 001004
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3A7CAAC7BD4C3EEE53-806E

No ASAM data for: "EV_VW75XParkAsssi4K" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX011W0JJ
   Coding: 003232
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10PBAVW250 A01001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 4A9CFA07EDACAE6EC3-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3575HRB4059124B2F99H

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3585HRB4061131GQCOUS

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3515RRB405P0VC0I5P0W

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3525RRB40510VC0IA9B9

No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbaVW10PBAVW250" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 871 A    HW: 6R0 920 871 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
   VCID: 346084FF9F28C89E89-8060

1 Fault Found:
12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 871 A    HW: 6R0 920 871 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
   VCID: 346084FF9F28C89E89-8060

1 Fault Found:
12664832 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 871 A    HW: 6R0 920 871 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDSV_DD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 346084FF9F28C89E89-8060

No ASAM data for: "EV_Kombi_UDSV_DD_RM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 871 A    HW: 6R0 920 871 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_DUS_VDD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 346084FF9F28C89E89-8060

No ASAM data for: "EV_Kombi_DUS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 871 A    HW: 6R0 920 871 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VD_DRM09 A04113
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 346084FF9F28C89E89-8060

No ASAM data for: "EV_Kombi_UDS_VD_DRM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0254  
   Revision: BF046001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 70E848EFA3B0B4BEAD-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0505  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VD_DRM09 A03009
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 6ADC5A878D6C4E6EE3-803E

No ASAM data for: "EV_Immo_UDS_VD_DRM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11250
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6A8B93EA0EEB46F4-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187     HW: 6RD 035 187 
   Component: Radio         517 5124  
   Revision: RB101000    Serial number: VWZZZ4Q5034465
   Coding: 00000400040005
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 0400143F8708B81E79-8050

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:54)--------------------------
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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Maybe it's not a G401 sensor fault.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CNKA) Labels: None
Part No SW: 03C 906 014 BD HW: 03C 906 014 BD
Component: CNKA-MM7GV-G H02 0561
Revision: --H02--- Serial number:
Coding: 00110014002400080000
Shop #: WSC 62297 001 1048576
VCID: 60C838AF7050043E3D-5072

1 Fault Found:
013190 - Low Pressure Gas Sensor (G401)
P3386 - 000 - Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 220
Mileage: 64378 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.05.11
Time: 02:09:06

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000100
Load: 0.0 %
Lambda: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 89.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1005.8 mbar
RPM: 0 /min

Readiness: 0110 0001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If the pressure in the gas fuel rail rises above the value 10.5bar or if the sensor signal fails, the vehicle will switch to back-up petrol mode.
http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_373_d1.pdf

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or search for leaks in the gas fuel rail.

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If you want different results, do not do the same things. :lol:

Whatever you do, be careful, the gas injection system is dangerous.
There is a leak check tool for this job.
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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Thanks Ciclo will try to replace the sensor and see if it will solve the problem. :wink:
If not I will make it check by my dealer.

Anyway I do not understand why vcds shows "low gas pressure" error if pressure is too hight (above 10,5 bar).
Should not be the contrary if there's a leak?
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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I do not know.
I guess the sensor/switch G401 goes "short to plus" due to one of these reasons. (high/low pressure)
Take a look at the wiring that reaches the sensor.

For possible tests:
Note (according Elsawin) that the engine always starts in petrol mode. The changeover to gas mode takes place automatically. Prerequisites are engine temperature of 30°C and engine speed from 1,200 rpm.
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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Hi ciclo, I checked wirings and are ok.
I will try to clean up the sensor with specific product and see If it works. :wink:

I'll let yoy know. :roll: Ty
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Hi, i could finally replace the sensor and now i can confirm it was faulty!
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8) Hopefully this time will last longer than the previous one.
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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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Hello guys,

I need your help :wink: does anyone know if gpl filter is the one in the picture below?
Thanks!

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Re: My polo 6r bifuel

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Yes that indeed is the gas filter.
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