Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Hi Francesco, Happy New Year 2020!
The problem is that there is no power to the wires T73a/63 and T73b/68 that reach your BCM Max (I imagine that power it's supplied from SB39 and SB59 fuses, i say tha I 'imagine' because I did not manufacture your wiring, but you followed the installation guide).
Do you remember how you made the electric bridge on the J331 relay? Check it out too.
The problem is that there is no power to the wires T73a/63 and T73b/68 that reach your BCM Max (I imagine that power it's supplied from SB39 and SB59 fuses, i say tha I 'imagine' because I did not manufacture your wiring, but you followed the installation guide).
Do you remember how you made the electric bridge on the J331 relay? Check it out too.
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Thank you Fernando! I've checked immediately the bridge as you told me and I found the problem
Cannot explay what happened but I can only suppose there was something wrong with the bridge I used.
I admit I made It by myself using a 1mm thick aluminium sheet, not the best choice for this kind of work probably even If worked fine for months.
I replaced the melted relay's holder with a new one and soldered the 2 wires together to avoid further problems.
Thank goodness nothing worst happened.
Thank you mate I feel very stupid and lucky at this time
Cannot explay what happened but I can only suppose there was something wrong with the bridge I used.
I admit I made It by myself using a 1mm thick aluminium sheet, not the best choice for this kind of work probably even If worked fine for months.
I replaced the melted relay's holder with a new one and soldered the 2 wires together to avoid further problems.
Thank goodness nothing worst happened.
Thank you mate I feel very stupid and lucky at this time
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
The images clarify the facts. (thank you for the images)
Maybe the bridge you made is not the problem, maybe there are too many consumers connected to the power wire (+30) that receives the power from the electric bridge. This wire branches on two wires to the fuses SB39 and SB59 and then feeds the BCM (63a, 68b).
If there is another electrical consumer connected to this wire that is subsequently divided into two wires to the fuses, you must desconected it and take the power for that consumer from another point of the electrical installation (e.g. directly from the battery with new wires)
However, the fact that the original wires have not been damaged by excess temperature suggests that the electrical bridge you made is not of the right materials to evacuate the temperature or was incorrectly placed on the terminals of the relay holder.
I'm inclined to the idea that the materials from which the electric bridge has been made/built are not adequate for electrical installations.
It is good to know that the problem has been solved without other consequences.
Maybe the bridge you made is not the problem, maybe there are too many consumers connected to the power wire (+30) that receives the power from the electric bridge. This wire branches on two wires to the fuses SB39 and SB59 and then feeds the BCM (63a, 68b).
If there is another electrical consumer connected to this wire that is subsequently divided into two wires to the fuses, you must desconected it and take the power for that consumer from another point of the electrical installation (e.g. directly from the battery with new wires)
However, the fact that the original wires have not been damaged by excess temperature suggests that the electrical bridge you made is not of the right materials to evacuate the temperature or was incorrectly placed on the terminals of the relay holder.
I'm inclined to the idea that the materials from which the electric bridge has been made/built are not adequate for electrical installations.
It is good to know that the problem has been solved without other consequences.
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
This is also my idea. I think probably a bad contact between bridge and terminals (maybe because of the oxidation) could lead to an overhead of the brige.
Since that happened immediately after turning on the car lights with no extra power consumption I feel you exclude the other option.
the important thing is that everything fine
Thank you ciclo!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Hi guys, I want to share with you my last project.
Since my comfortline has no tweeters in front pilars I purchased a pair of them from Hertz and 3d printed the brackets to use the original fixing points. I'm really satisfied of the result because it looks very similar to the original one.
More updates coming soon!
Since my comfortline has no tweeters in front pilars I purchased a pair of them from Hertz and 3d printed the brackets to use the original fixing points. I'm really satisfied of the result because it looks very similar to the original one.
More updates coming soon!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Very Nice!!!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Looks great, excellent creativity.
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Thank you guys.
Today need to add a new wire in the fusebox for the heated washers jets.
I saw there's a locking mechanism but I do not want to risk to break something.
Do you know how to unlock it? Thanks in advance!
Today need to add a new wire in the fusebox for the heated washers jets.
I saw there's a locking mechanism but I do not want to risk to break something.
Do you know how to unlock it? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Use a flat screwdriver to move the locking mechanism as you see in the image.
Sometimes it's a little hard the first time ... nothing will break.
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Good job, on both mods!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Nice mods.
The heated washer jets are automatic, they don't need coding (they are not connected to any codifcable element). You can verify how the resistance varies with a multimeter, they are sensitive to the heat of the hands and the refrigerator in your home.❄
The heated washer jets are automatic, they don't need coding (they are not connected to any codifcable element). You can verify how the resistance varies with a multimeter, they are sensitive to the heat of the hands and the refrigerator in your home.❄
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Thank you Michael! Thank you ciclo for the explanation! I'm very happy with the last retrofit!
Unfortunatelly the situation is not quite good here in Italy because as you know we are all forced to stay at home to pervent new contagious but I'm try to keep my mind busy.
Finally climatronic retrofit on my 6R had been completed! A huge thanks to Michael and CNK for that! Here are some pictures which summarize the work:
Climatronic unit used comes from a 2015 Polo 6C.
The new wiring; I added one connector in order to make it plug and play with the old wiring.
Starting point:
Disassembling:
Interiors almost disassembled:
New 9 pin connector next to the manual control panel will plug and play to the 9 pin connector of the new wiring.
New 2 pin connector next to manual climate unit..
.. will plug and play with the 2 pin connector of new wiring.
Testing and reassembling:
Now everything seems work fine and I am happy with it. The new fa was a bit noisy at low speed at the beginning but now Its noise decreased.
I performed an autoscan and there are no errors. That's a bit strange because I did not code anything:
As far as you know have I to code It?
Thanks
Unfortunatelly the situation is not quite good here in Italy because as you know we are all forced to stay at home to pervent new contagious but I'm try to keep my mind busy.
Finally climatronic retrofit on my 6R had been completed! A huge thanks to Michael and CNK for that! Here are some pictures which summarize the work:
Climatronic unit used comes from a 2015 Polo 6C.
The new wiring; I added one connector in order to make it plug and play with the old wiring.
Starting point:
Disassembling:
Interiors almost disassembled:
New 9 pin connector next to the manual control panel will plug and play to the 9 pin connector of the new wiring.
New 2 pin connector next to manual climate unit..
.. will plug and play with the 2 pin connector of new wiring.
Testing and reassembling:
Now everything seems work fine and I am happy with it. The new fa was a bit noisy at low speed at the beginning but now Its noise decreased.
I performed an autoscan and there are no errors. That's a bit strange because I did not code anything:
As far as you know have I to code It?
Thanks
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Sunday,15,March,2020,12:39:37:39744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY540000 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 55 56 0B
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY540000 Mileage: 103340km-64212miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BC HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0002
Revision: --------
Coding: 210224E3217100B5842524E484D700401300
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 00085B4297984341E9-8054
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H HW: 6R0 907 044 H
Component: Climatronic H12 0812
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 3878F3A28BC8CB8111-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0736
Revision: B9080001 Serial number: 0771 060161479
Coding: 3CB02BBF08E1240092380E916C6B0DD9DAC0672F608D30D0200000030000
Shop #: WSC 02737 534 00190
VCID: 68D863E29BE89B0141-803C
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB HW: 6R0 959 801 AB Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU004011200011991
Coding: 18BC30
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD HW: 6R0 959 802 AD Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU005011200017885
Coding: 08BC30
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H01 0008
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442 HW: 1K8 959 442
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H04 0103
Serial number: 29170002240760027504
Coding: A40000
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G HW: 6R0 959 811 G
Component: J388__TSG_HL 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU010011200012406
Coding: 08BC32
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G HW: 6R0 959 812 G
Component: J389__TSG_HR 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU009011200013136
Coding: 08BC32
No fault code found.
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 7E0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L HW: 56D 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H02 0106
Revision: -------- Serial number: 20231629400567
Coding: 108001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS.rod
VCID: 3B72ECAEB2FEE099FC-806E
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX011W0JJ
Coding: 003232
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW1B0PAVW250 A01001
ROD: N/A
VCID: 4A9CB96AED24491177-801E
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3575HRB4059124B2F99H
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3585HRB4061131GQCOUS
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3515RRB405P0VC0I5P0W
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3525RRB40510VC0IA9B9
No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbaVW1B0PAVW250" (VW25)
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 871 A HW: 6R0 920 871 A
Component: KOMBI H03 0505
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140E01
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
VCID: 3460C7929FA02FE13D-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: None
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0736
Revision: B9080001
Coding: 002200
Shop #: WSC 02737 534 00190
VCID: 68D863E29BE89B0141-803C
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H03 0505
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Imm_oUDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
ROD: N/A
VCID: 6ADC19EA8DE4A91157-803E
No ASAM data for: "EV_Imm_oUDS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *)
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11250
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2F6AC8FEEA860C3940-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
Component: LWR-ECU H02 0070
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 0110000001000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
VCID: 77FA309ECE5604F9D8-8022
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels: None
Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B HW: 6RD 035 187 B
Component: Radio 541 5522
Revision: -------- Serial number: VWZZZ4K6200530
Coding: 16000400040006
Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
VCID: 46848D5AF13CAD7193-8012
No fault code found.
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Sometimes it can be necessary to code the engine ECU for climatronic, I had to with my 1.2 TDI with start/stop.