Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

Post by ciclo »

Hi Francesco, Happy New Year 2020!

The problem is that there is no power to the wires T73a/63 and T73b/68 that reach your BCM Max (I imagine that power it's supplied from SB39 and SB59 fuses, i say tha I 'imagine' because I did not manufacture your wiring, but you followed the installation guide).

Do you remember how you made the electric bridge on the J331 relay? Check it out too.
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Thank you Fernando! I've checked immediately the bridge as you told me and I found the problem :shock:

Cannot explay what happened but I can only suppose there was something wrong with the bridge I used.

I admit I made It by myself using a 1mm thick aluminium sheet, not the best choice for this kind of work probably even If worked fine for months.

I replaced the melted relay's holder with a new one and soldered the 2 wires together to avoid further problems.

Thank goodness nothing worst happened.

Thank you mate :roll: I feel very stupid and lucky at this time

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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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The images clarify the facts. (thank you for the images)

Maybe the bridge you made is not the problem, maybe there are too many consumers connected to the power wire (+30) that receives the power from the electric bridge. This wire branches on two wires to the fuses SB39 and SB59 and then feeds the BCM (63a, 68b).

If there is another electrical consumer connected to this wire that is subsequently divided into two wires to the fuses, you must desconected it and take the power for that consumer from another point of the electrical installation (e.g. directly from the battery with new wires)

However, the fact that the original wires have not been damaged by excess temperature suggests that the electrical bridge you made is not of the right materials to evacuate the temperature or was incorrectly placed on the terminals of the relay holder.

I'm inclined to the idea that the materials from which the electric bridge has been made/built are not adequate for electrical installations. :?:
It is good to know that the problem has been solved without other consequences.
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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ciclo wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:40 am I'm inclined to the idea that the materials from which the electric bridge has been made/built are not adequate
This is also my idea. I think probably a bad contact between bridge and terminals (maybe because of the oxidation) could lead to an overhead of the brige.

Since that happened immediately after turning on the car lights with no extra power consumption I feel you exclude the other option.

:wink: the important thing is that everything fine :wink:
Thank you ciclo!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Hi guys, I want to share with you my last project.
Since my comfortline has no tweeters in front pilars I purchased a pair of them from Hertz and 3d printed the brackets to use the original fixing points. I'm really satisfied of the result because it looks very similar to the original one. :wink:

More updates coming soon!

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Very Nice!!!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Looks great, excellent creativity.
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Thank you guys. :wink:

Today need to add a new wire in the fusebox for the heated washers jets.

I saw there's a locking mechanism but I do not want to risk to break something.
Do you know how to unlock it? Thanks in advance!

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Use a flat screwdriver to move the locking mechanism as you see in the image.
Sometimes it's a little hard the first time ... nothing will break.
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Thank you ciclo I did It successfully! :wink:
Do they need to be coded with VCDS?
Any way to check if they works?

Here's some pictures. This time I tried to use 3D printed connectors and they works nice!

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I've also completed the mirrors mod with k418 unit and works nice! :wink:

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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Good job, on both mods!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Nice mods. :wink:
The heated washer jets are automatic, they don't need coding (they are not connected to any codifcable element🤗). You can verify how the resistance varies with a multimeter, they are sensitive to the heat of the hands and the refrigerator in your home.❄😅
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Thank you Michael! Thank you ciclo for the explanation! :wink: I'm very happy with the last retrofit!
Unfortunatelly the situation is not quite good here in Italy because as you know we are all forced to stay at home to pervent new contagious but I'm try to keep my mind busy. :roll:
Finally climatronic retrofit on my 6R had been completed! A huge thanks to Michael and CNK for that! Here are some pictures which summarize the work:

Climatronic unit used comes from a 2015 Polo 6C.

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The new wiring; I added one connector in order to make it plug and play with the old wiring.

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Starting point:

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Disassembling:

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Interiors almost disassembled:

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New 9 pin connector next to the manual control panel will plug and play to the 9 pin connector of the new wiring.

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New 2 pin connector next to manual climate unit..

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.. will plug and play with the 2 pin connector of new wiring.

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Testing and reassembling:

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Now everything seems work fine and I am happy with it. The new fa was a bit noisy at low speed at the beginning but now Its noise decreased.
I performed an autoscan and there are no errors. That's a bit strange because I did not code anything:

As far as you know have I to code It?
Thanks :wink:

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Sunday,15,March,2020,12:39:37:39744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY540000   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 55 56 0B

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY540000   Mileage: 103340km-64212miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BC    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0002  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210224E3217100B5842524E484D700401300
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 00085B4297984341E9-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0812  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 3878F3A28BC8CB8111-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0736  
   Revision: B9080001    Serial number: 0771 060161479
   Coding: 3CB02BBF08E1240092380E916C6B0DD9DAC0672F608D30D0200000030000
   Shop #: WSC 02737 534 00190
   VCID: 68D863E29BE89B0141-803C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB    HW: 6R0 959 801 AB  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU004011200011991
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD    HW: 6R0 959 802 AD  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU005011200017885
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H01 0008 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H04 0103 
   Serial number: 29170002240760027504
   Coding: A40000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU010011200012406
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU009011200013136
   Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L    HW: 56D 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H02 0106  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 20231629400567
   Coding: 108001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS.rod
   VCID: 3B72ECAEB2FEE099FC-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX011W0JJ
   Coding: 003232
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW1B0PAVW250 A01001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 4A9CB96AED24491177-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3575HRB4059124B2F99H

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3585HRB4061131GQCOUS

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3515RRB405P0VC0I5P0W

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3525RRB40510VC0IA9B9

No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbaVW1B0PAVW250" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 871 A    HW: 6R0 920 871 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3460C7929FA02FE13D-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0736  
   Revision: B9080001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 02737 534 00190
   VCID: 68D863E29BE89B0141-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0505  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Imm_oUDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 6ADC19EA8DE4A91157-803E

No ASAM data for: "EV_Imm_oUDS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11250
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6AC8FEEA860C3940-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0110000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77FA309ECE5604F9D8-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         541 5522  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4K6200530
   Coding: 16000400040006
   Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
   VCID: 46848D5AF13CAD7193-8012

No fault code found.

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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Sometimes it can be necessary to code the engine ECU for climatronic, I had to with my 1.2 TDI with start/stop.
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