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Re: Dashboard swap! Seat Toledo Instrument Cluster on Cross Polo 6R

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High Beam Assist

I was following Fernando's manual https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f=56 ... nt#p503577 Thank you! 🙏


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Necessary parts

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Old mirror mounting

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I used Firegrafik's stencil

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Applied primer

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New mirror mounting

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Mirror on the place

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New rain/light sensor

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HBA -ON 😎

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And all light indications are ON
To activate Front Fog Light indication is necessary to change Byte in eeprom
Byte 02D4 from 7C to 7E
And Fog light should be connected to BCM or a wire T32a/30 :wink:
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Excellent job madwarlock...,,[emoji106]
U don't need to change stalk ?


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Thanks, Shardul!
I will do it in future, but HBA works with old stalks as well.
You just need to manually return it to middle position :D
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I think I got some spare parts to convert a 6R stalk to a 7E0 stalk, with CC. It's the internal slider board and the cover of the stalk.
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MaDwArLoCk wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 7:53 pm High Beam Assist

I was following Fernando's manual https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f=56 ... nt#p503577 Thank you! 🙏

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And all light indications are ON
To activate Front Fog Light indication is necessary to change Byte in eeprom
Byte 02D4 from 7C to 7E
And Fog light should be connected to BCM or a wire T32a/30 :wink:
Great Job!
- HBA 8)
- Front Fog Light indication 8)

Buy the stalks in new condition from the VW dealer, it's worth it. (ASAP :lol: and https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f=56 ... 90#p498666 :lol: )
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iichel wrote: Sat May 19, 2018 8:51 pm I think I got some spare parts to convert a 6R stalk to a 7E0 stalk, with CC. It's the internal slider board and the cover of the stalk.
Thank you for offer, Michel!
ciclo wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 6:56 am
Great Job!
- HBA 8)
- Front Fog Light indication 8)

Buy the stalks in new condition from the VW dealer, it's worth it. (ASAP :lol: and https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?f=56 ... 90#p498666 :lol: )
Thank you, Fernando! 8)

I don’t want to hurry with buying new stalks because my next mod will be:

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It’s a new steering wheel from Tiguan with heating 8)
To connect the “heating”, it is necessary to mix the MQB and PQ25 slip-rings.
Modification of the slip-rings will be almost the same like here: https://www.drive2.ru/l/462910064408134206/

Probably, later I will buy stalks without CC!
Guys from D2 developing solution for “CC on MFSW” for PQ25. (On PQ35 it’s already successfully working!)
So for now I will use old stalks!
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Re: Dashboard swap! Seat Toledo Instrument Cluster on Cross Polo 6R

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Fernando, could you please review my current coding

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Sunday,20,May,2018,15:36:42:00006
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU0   License Plate: HBA
Mileage: 164200km-102029mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 20 25 37 44 55 56 65 77

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU   Mileage: 164200km-102029miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 D    HW: 03F 906 070 D
   Component: SIMOS10.20H02 9851  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001900D6202400080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070D 003015
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS_003_VW25.rod
   VCID: 234FB15E2AD5FE5C25-8076

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AF    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0005  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3227300BA842C14E844D600401300
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
   VCID: 0201D4DA990F17540E-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 H    HW: 6R0 907 044 H
   Component: Climatronic   H11 0812  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 387576328B538D84E0-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 B    HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H81 0744  
   Revision: B9081001    Serial number: 0982 109160060
   Coding: 26B02BBF48E3240093300F916EEB1ED85AC0676F600530F0200000030800
   Shop #: WSC 78134 026 411302
   VCID: 2A515C7A45FF2F1466-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 280415 03  37  0059 
   Coding: 0288DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BF    HW: 6R0 959 801 BF  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  004 8662 
   Serial number: KU0KU021071552021861
   Coding: 0200A3

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BM    HW: 6R0 959 802 BM  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  004 8662 
   Serial number: KU0KU021081552334528
   Coding: 1000AB

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9004 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 F    HW: 6R0 959 811 F
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  006 0902 
   Serial number: KU0-KU026.04.1016866
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 F    HW: 6R0 959 812 F
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  006 0902 
   Serial number: KU0-KU020.04.1013618
   Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 6R0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 919 475 A    HW: 7E0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H10 0011  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 64531012301615
   Coding: 100003
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2 S01008
   ROD: EV_VW250ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: 3C7D6A22B76BA1A404-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag00K H08 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX002F4VI
   Coding: 00304B
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4A913CFAEDBF0F1486-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3572SRB40000B53459C7

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3582SRB40000B520C0C1

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB405D6QGG0HO90

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405B6SD5OFPMN

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6JA 920 840 F    HW: 6JA 920 840 
   Component: KOMBI         H16 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140801
   Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3E79602AA177B3B42A-806A

1 Fault Found:
12658432 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 73
                    Mileage: 164201 km
                    Date: 2018.05.20
                    Time: 01:08:35


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744  
   Revision: B9081001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 78134 026 411302
   VCID: 68D5E6729B73DD04B0-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 D    HW: 7E0 857 511 D
   Component: FLA           H09 Q028  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 0404001C00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01747 666 28888
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
   VCID: 2B5F597E4205361C9D-807E

1 Fault Found:
15466754 - Initial Adapation Not Performed 
          U1117 00 [008] - -
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 73
                    Mileage: 164201 km
                    Date: 2018.05.20
                    Time: 00:59:35


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H16 0709  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6AD19C7A8D7FEF14A6-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R
   Component: RNS-MID       H21 6270  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7N8319084
   Coding: 08010402010000AC0001
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3D7B6726A471A8AC33-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V15  8515 

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11230
   Shop #: WSC 31414  
   VCID: 2F674D6EEA1D4A3CB1-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0112000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77F7B50ECECD42FC29-8022

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R    HW: 1T0 035 680 R
   Component: RNS-MID       H21 6270  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7N8319084
   Coding: 08010402010000AC0001
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3D7B6726A471A8AC33-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V15  8515 

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
   Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0011  
   Serial number: 30000000006989
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_005.rod
   VCID: 3777750E8E4D82FCE9-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 D    HW: 7P6 035 730 D
   Component: TELEFON       H05 0570  
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007668399469
   Coding: 0A00000000010110
   Shop #: WSC 05314 115 12345
   ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01009
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 336F411E9A356EDCD5-8066

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:37)--------------------------

I have one fault in Address 17: Instruments it appears every time i turn on ignition.
VCDS doesnt give description however ODIS-E showing this:

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No communication with TPMS? :o but TPMS working without any faults or problems...
What could it be?
I didn't desabled Indirect TPMS, could it be the reason?

And one more thing, How to enable Safe-Lock?
I thought it's on but after the car is locked from remote, i can open doors from inside...
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Heated MFSW, is a good project. :wink:

24B02BBF48E3240093300F916CEB9ED85AC0670F600530F0200000030800
Check the Safe-lock.

I don't know how to solve the sporadic IC fault with priority 6. (direct TPMS)
6 = it's something you should not worry about.

Speculation: Could be due to the IC warning light for direct TPMS, which is not activated in ours IC if there is a warning, the warning is only with a "gong" and the information in the MFA +, "only" :lol: .
Nobody is perfect. Having both TPM systems working on our PQ25 is a luxury. 8)

New gen. of original VCDS interfaces provide the same information that ODIS-E.
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Safe lock depends on coding ?
My doors also opening from inside when locked by remote
Which byte in central electronics we need to change for safe lock ?


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BCM, Byte0 Bit1, enabled, central locking WITHOUT Safe function.

So...
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ciclo wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm Heated MFSW, is a good project. :wink:

24B02BBF48E3240093300F916CEB9ED85AC0670F600530F0200000030800
Check the Safe-lock.

I don't know how to solve the sporadic IC fault with priority 6. (direct TPMS)
6 = it's something you should not worry about.

Speculation: Could be due to the IC warning light for direct TPMS, which is not activated in ours IC if there is a warning, the warning is only with a "gong" and the information in the MFA +, "only" :lol: .
Nobody is perfect. Having both TPM systems working on our PQ25 is a luxury. 8)

New gen. of original VCDS interfaces provide the same information that ODIS-E.
Thanks for coding! Safe-Lock is working now :) 👍

I understand that this fault is not significant, but still it is appears.. and i don't happy because of it! :D

Could be because of warning light, but if so, I haven't seen this fault in your autoscan's, Fernando! :lol:

Does anyone with retrofitted direct TPMS have seen this fault :?:
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Everyone who installed it. :wink:

I don't happy too with this sporadic fault.
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Okaaay, that explains everything! :lol:
I thought, i am the only one with that damn fault :roll:

Then probably we have to retrofit PQ35 dashboard to fix this fault :!: :lol:
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MaDwArLoCk wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 6:01 pm
I thought, i am the only one with that damn fault :roll:
And you're still the only one who has that fault. :lol:

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Therefore, if the warning light for TP is ON in IC the warning comes from the indirect TPMS.
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ciclo wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 6:06 pm
And you're still the only one who has that fault. :lol:

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Therefore, if the warning light for TP is ON in IC the warning comes from the indirect TPMS.
Please, Fernando tell me more! :D
I need to disable warning light for TP?
Or maybe reassign TP warning light in the EEPROM? :roll:
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