Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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iichel wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:27 pm
ciclo wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:24 pmSeeing your T5 and the Adam's T5 I'm thinking of buying one. :lol:
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Exactly... :lol:
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Ciclo, don’t know if you can assist? I am looking to upgrade the BCM on a T5.1 2013

I currently have Image

And I have been given Image

I eventually want to install auto lights and maybe HBA but that’s a bit down the line at the moment

It’s a 2014 model year ‘E’
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Please, Bizmo, read this topic in its entirety.

It is easier than it seems, you must logically forget the part of the bixenon headlights (if you don't want to install them at this time).
Focus your attention on BCM Max adaptation (7E0937090) and on the installation/diagrams of the wiring for automatic lights.
The processes are identical.

We need a autoscan from your T5GP as recently as possible and pics from your T-17 light switch connector and fusebox.

we'll continue... :wink:
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Thanks, my VCDS cable is only micro can so ordering a new one which supports the t5, once that has come will send you a scan.

In the meantime I’ll order some cable and terminals :)

Oh and the fuse / relay holders.

Anything else?

Also if I just plug my new bcm in now and copy the coding over will it function without re-wiring? Promised my old one to someone!
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Bizmo wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:25 pm Anything else?
Light switch with Auto function and Relay.

hmm... fabric/cloth tape, plastic clamp ties...
Bizmo wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:25 pm Also if I just plug my new bcm in now and copy the coding over will it function without re-wiring? Promised my old one to someone!
You can do it..., but you must bear in mind that it's a temporary measure. (during wiring installation)
Better the less time you spend in these conditions --- new 7E0 BCM and no re-wiring ---

Do not forget to make an Autoscan before removing the old BCM.

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Thanks, will do.

Got it from my local VW who said it was new and ordered for a T6 but not used. Not sure if it will have any coding for the T6 already in it.
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If it's new, it will have a basic/generic coding.

- You have to do everything indicated :arrow: here, it's easy.
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Starting to put together a shopping list.

So far 1 have

2.5mm cable yellow 5m x2 - power supply to BCU
  • 4x SPT Terminals
    2x MCP 5.8 Terminals
    Fuse holder 6Q0 937 617 B
    2x 30A Fuses
1.5mm cable yellow 2m - SB5 to BCU
1.5mm cable black 2m - SB27 to BCU
  • 2x SPT Terminals
    2x MCP 2.8 Terminals
0.5mm cable 3x colours
  • SB28a to BCU 2m - 1x MQS Terminal
    SC12a to BCU 2m - SPT one end and MCP 1.5 other
    SC14a to BCU 2m - SPT one end and MCP 1.5 other
0.5mm cable yellow 1m
0.5mm cable black 1m - CAN lines twisted
  • Not sure which terminals
1mm cable green 2m - reverse light
  • Not sure which terminals

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Then from there we have the light switch cabling which is
0.5mm cable 6 colours
  • Red audio connector
    Not sure which terminals

Then wiring for automatic lights
Not got anywhere on this one other than 6Q0937617B fuse holder with 646 Fuse


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Could you also let me know why there is such a difference in this topic and the wiring PDF for Adam87? Adams seems to have a lot more cables.

Could you also let me know a good source of terminals? I’m struggling to source them in quantities of less than 500!
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Bizmo wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:01 pm Starting to put together a shopping list.

So far 1 have

2.5mm cable yellow 5m x2 - power supply to BCU
  • 4x SPT Terminals
    2x MCP 5.8 Terminals
    Fuse holder 6Q0 937 617 B
    2x 30A Fuses
1.5mm cable yellow 2m - SB5 to BCU
1.5mm cable black 2m - SB27 to BCU
  • 2x SPT Terminals
    2x MCP 2.8 Terminals
0.5mm cable 3x colours
  • SB28a to BCU 2m - 1x MQS Terminal
    SC12a to BCU 2m - SPT one end and MCP 1.5 other
    SC14a to BCU 2m - SPT one end and MCP 1.5 other
0.5mm cable yellow 1m
0.5mm cable black 1m - CAN lines twisted
  • Not sure which terminals
MQS both ends.

1mm cable green 2m - reverse light
  • Not sure which terminals
MCP 2.8 bcm end and MCP 1.5 (male) other


——————————————————

Then from there we have the light switch cabling which is
0.5mm (1.0mm too) cable 6 colours
  • Red audio connector
    Not sure which terminals
JPT


Then wiring for automatic lights
Not got anywhere on this one other than 6Q0937617B fuse holder with 646 Fuse
Please read this topic again, but this time pay attention to the images, diagrams. Ref numbers, etc...


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Could you also let me know why there is such a difference in this topic and the wiring PDF for Adam87? Adams seems to have a lot more cables.

Yes, the project for Adam87 was the first we did for the T5, ,,,and in addition to the automatic lights it also included the High Beam Assist.

1- BCM adaptation + automatic lights, etc ... this topic. (Elsawin T5)

2- BCM adaptation + automatic lights + High Beam Assist, etc ... We would have to open a new topic and elaborate the information according to the new diagrams posted here. (Elsawin T6) ...but I'm not willing to do it for obvious reasons. :lol:

The electrrical installation for Adam87 will be unique (I mean the wiring configuration).


Could you also let me know a good source of terminals? I’m struggling to source them in quantities of less than 500!
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, full scan is bellow

I messaged the person about the terminals but haven’t got any reply from them? Do you have another source?

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Sunday,22,April,2018,20:42:19:00001
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86(Parallels)
VCDS Version 17.8.0.1
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN:    License Plate: 
Mileage: 127480km-79212mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 56 77 0B

VIN:  Mileage: 127480km-79212miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CFCA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
  Part No SW: 03L 906 019 GN    HW: 03L 907 309 L
  Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H38 5606  
  Revision: 22H38---    Serial number: 00000000000000
  Coding: 01194012232400080000
  Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
  ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019GN 003004
  ROD: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019GK_003.rod
  VCID: 7DF0C168ECF16FAEE1-8029

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
  Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 K    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
  Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0110  
  Revision: 00H43001    
  Coding: 508724AD89A50A9824AA9177A96210
  Shop #: WSC 02736 790 49152
  VCID: 3A7A0A74B55F989684-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
  Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BN    HW: 7E5 907 047 BN
  Component: Climatic-T5   H20 0506  
  Revision: 00001012    
  Coding: 0000000002
  Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
  ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
  ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
  VCID: 7CF6CC6CF7EB66A6D6-8029

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
  Part No SW: 7H0 937 087 M    HW: 7H0 937 087 
  Component: BCM T5GP H+4  H34 0411  
  Revision: BO034001    Serial number: 0573 163131098
  Coding: B8A0303A0A732431922848107C2B9C540080432F60844000320000000000
  Shop #: WSC 02736 790 12345
  VCID: 3E720664A977B4B6B8-806B

  Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B    HW: 7E0 959 801 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
  Component: J386__TSG_FT  002 3313 
  Serial number: --------------------
  Coding: 010000

  Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B    HW: 7E0 959 802 B  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
  Component: J387__TSG_BT  002 3313 
  Serial number: --------------------
  Coding: 000000

  Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7E1 951 172 
  Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
  Coding: 000000

  Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
  Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
  Coding: 000000

  Subsystem 5 - Part No: 7E1 951 172 
  Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
  Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
  Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 K    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
  Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H03 0106  
  Revision: --------    Serial number: 32931312600211
  Coding: 108001
  Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
  ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis4K 001004
  ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis4K_001.rod
  VCID: 3A7A0A74BD5F989684-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
  Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
  Component: VW10Airbag009 H07 0013  
  Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00J7H86
  Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
  Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
  ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
  ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
  VCID: 35601948944177EE69-8061

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
  Part No SW: 7E0 920 970 J    HW: 7E0 920 970 J
  Component: KOMBI         H04 0710  
  Serial number: 00000000000000
  Coding: 160801
  Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
  ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
  ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VN35.rod
  VCID: 31682D5860295BCE35-8065

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
  Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 087 
  Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0411  
  Revision: BO034001    
  Coding: 042300
  Shop #: WSC 02736 790 12345
  VCID: 70EEE85CA3A312C67A-8025

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
  Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
  Component: IMMO          H04 0710  
  Serial number:               
  Coding: 000000
  Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
  ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
  ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
  VCID: 6ADAFA348D7FE81634-803F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
  Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 J    HW: 5M0 035 186 J
  Component: Radio RCD310  042 0082  
  Revision: 01000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z2N1589686
  Coding: 05000200020014
  Shop #: WSC 02734 790 00000
  VCID: 33642750923569DE47-8067

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
  Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 J    HW: 7P6 035 730 J
  Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
  Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664918056
  Coding: 0A01010000010101
  Shop #: WSC 02736 790 50316
  ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
  ROD: EV_UHVNA_002.rod
  VCID: 39781578B859938E8D-806D

1 Fault Found:
9458195 - Control Module for Cellular Telephone 
         B1052 13 [008] - Open Circuit
         Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
            Freeze Frame:
                   Fault Status: 00000001
                   Fault Priority: 4
                   Fault Frequency: 83
                   Reset counter: 243
                   Mileage: 126922 km
                   Date: 2018.02.28
                   Time: 19:21:30


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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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I don't have another source for these specific contact-terminals, but there are a huge amount of websites that sell them.
(google search by ref. number? https://www.a4-freunde.com/showwiki.php ... uebersicht)

I must be a lucky one, dachsmax@web.de - Mr. Heiko - always answers me. :|
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Autoscan.. OK
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Apologies,


Attached :) - I’ve emailed your contact again so will wait a contact from them

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Thanks, everything written in this topic can be applied to adapt your new 7E0 BCM Max to your Transporter with H4 headlights from factory.

You have to install the RLS so that the automatic lights work.
Do you intend to install the RLS? (in order to provide you the right codings)

Post a new autoscan with the new 7E0 BCM installed/present once you have done the electrical installation, I'll provide you the new codings in order to correct the possible faults.
(remember to tell me what new parts you have installed whenever you post a new autoscan)

Hmm, maybe graylscott can help you to locate everything you need to do this installation.
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Yes going to install the RLS, just need to source a new windscreen then should be good to go - is there any benefit to the round rls from the T6 over the squarer one from the T5? Do they fit in the same windscreen mounting?

Will sit down this evening and make a shopping list and buy the rest of the bits that I need.

Thanks for all your help
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T5 RLS vs T6 RLS
Don't fit in the same retaining plates. Logically.
e.g. viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70442&start=45#p531196

Square T5 RLS perfectly fulfills its main missions.
Round T6 RLS some benefit should have with respect to the square T5 RLS. :lol:
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