Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Morning ciclo,
When I started this work I was unaware of any other threads related to this work, it's only since having problems I've found the others. I'm also gutted because I didn't realise you were making wiring looms again :( I suppose he who doesn't ask, doesn't get...

I do have a drawing of the electrical installation that I produced for my own reference, it's based on your drawing for auto lights on T5.1, and your drawing for HBA (ie, full beams controlled by BCM).
I'll probably redraw it though as it's starting to look a mess, all hand written with lots of marks indicating my progress and oily fingerprints now :lol: My coding shouldn't have changed since my last post of an autoscan but I'll check and carry out another one shortly. I'll also see if I can post my adaptation map if I can get the Google drive working correctly again. Thank you

PS- I definitely owe you a beer for the huge amount of information you've contributed that has made this possible :wink:
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Good evening TheKeymeister.

Let me explain to you and everyone.

Factors and compatibilities for BCM adaptation in T5.1. (434 MHz)

1- BCM Max 7H0 937 090 ... / A / B / D
- This thread is correct to follow and do the electrical installation of the BCM adaptation, automatic lights and bi-xenon headlights.

2- BCM Max 7E0 937 090 ... / B / C / D / E
- This thread is correct to follow and do the electrical installation of the BCM adaptation, automatic lights and bixenon headlights, but FROM NOW ON it is better to follow and do the electrical installation carried out in the Limalex thread. 💎viewtopic.php?f=56&t=75241💎
The BCM will manage all the lights and offers the possibility of also being able to install Light Assist (HBA).
Starting at 7E0 937 090 B, it will allow you to install the tire pressure monitoring system, TPMS (RDKS in German).

BCM coding is different.

Developing these threads on uk-polos.net has been an evolutionary process as users posted their concerns or questions, also depending on what type of BCM was available at that time and the purpose of the user.

The Limalex thread has been the culmination of these processes, it is the reason why I went back to manufacturing one more wiring. I wanted to share it with everyone! it has my personal touch on how to do things. :)

Needless to say, these themes were previously developed on the 6R.

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I have some made by me in a safe place ... under seven locks. :lol:
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Well the good news is...I've compared my notes against the new diagram you suggest from the Limalex thread, and that's (almost) exactly how I wired it, I just took a longer time to get there (I didn't know it existed at the time) - I was working on your Polo drawing for high beam assist and just picked up the correct high beam feeds to my headlights based on the ElsaWin diagrams. So the good news is I don't have to produce a high quality drawing for future reference as you've already done it :lol:

The other good news is, my foglights are all fully working again, after cleaning my rear cluster up the rear one is working again, and the front foglight issue was caused by a temporary wire having become disconnected from when I suspected my wiring/crimping was at fault. All returned to normal and all working correctly again :D

I just have the huge task of re-assembling the vehicle now, maybe I will get to drive it again in a few days...

Thank you for your support with this, and please send me some details so I can buy you a beer :wink:
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Good morning Thekeymeister.
I sincerely appreciate your kindness, it is not necessary to transfer any money, ... knowing that the info posted (not in the best way) was useful to you is already a great satisfaction for me.
I had several beers on your behalf. Thanks a lot!
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Hi, I will thank all the experts.
I read almost the entire topic, but couldn't find the answer for my problem.
I retrofitted my T5 2014, R Line steering wheel with multifunction buttons. Everything works except the illumination buttons.
I bought a BCM 090D unit, the buttons are lit, but most other things don't work.
What do I need to adjust to make it work?
I'm not interested in automatic lights. I just want the button backlight to work.
Or can I buy a cable harness from someone here?
Thank you in advance.
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Hello padlo, welcome.

BCM 090 (Max) and 087 (High) from 2015-2016 onwards support backlighting for buttons on new MFSW models.

If you don't want automatic lights maybe you should buy a BCM High, it is a direct change/swap once you perform the coding/adaptation process as indicated on the ross-tech page (wiki) for the replacement of the BCM PQ25 (jetta).

The latest known models (2019-2020) for BCM 087 High are:
6R0937087AB / AD / AF ... 434 Mhz.
6R0937087AA / AC ... 315 Mhz.
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padlo wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:35 pm Hi, I will thank all the experts.
I read almost the entire topic, but couldn't find the answer for my problem.
I retrofitted my T5 2014, R Line steering wheel with multifunction buttons. Everything works except the illumination buttons.
I bought a BCM 090D unit, the buttons are lit, but most other things don't work.
What do I need to adjust to make it work?
I'm not interested in automatic lights. I just want the button backlight to work.
Or can I buy a cable harness from someone here?
Thank you in advance.
On the VW Caravelle facebook group, there was a guy who made some modifications in the steering wheel buttons themselves to make the illumination work, I think he soldered a wire in somewhere. I was lucky - my steering wheel (3C8 419 091BF) worked with illumination straight out of the box, with my original 087 BCM (from 2012), and also with the T6 090B BCM. Buttons are 3C8 959 537 D H06 0022 on mine.

Do you have an auto scan available? Post it on pastebin if you can't share it in the forum.
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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Hi Ciclo,
I don't know if you are still active in this thread, but I would like to ask you for help with my try to make my multivan T5 2015 use auto headlight feature. Car is factory equiped with Bi-xenon headlights, rain sensor and auto dimming mirror. Could you be so kind, and tell me if my BCM is good enough for retrofit? And after reading this thread, i still dont't understand fully if car with rain sensor on front windshield is already equipped with light sensor. thank you for your help and sorry for my english I'm not a native speaker :oops:

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01-Engine - condition: OK 0000
02-Aut. transmission - condition: OK 0000
03-ABS brakes - condition: OK 0000
04-Steering angle sensor - status: OK 0000
08-Climate / heating - condition: Not working 0010
09-Central electrics - condition: OK 0000
0D-Left sliding door - status: OK 0000
10-Park Assist / Steering - Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags - condition: OK 0000
17-Instrument panel - status: OK 0000
18-Auxiliary heating - status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway - status: OK 0000
22-All wheel drive - status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer - condition: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 - status: OK 0000
37-Navigation - status: Not working 0010
3C-Change of rides. lane - status: OK 0000
47-Audio system - status: OK 0000
55-Xenon slope control - status: OK 0000
56-Radio - status: Not working 0010
61-Battery control - status: OK 0000
69-Trailer function - status: OK 0000
6C-Reversing camera - status: OK 0000
6E-Roof display unit - condition: OK 0000
78-Right sliding door - condition: OK 0000
 
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addr 01: Motor (J623-CFCA) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 03L 906 019 HM HW: 03L 907 309 L
   Part: R4 2.0L EDC H38 8375
   Revision: 22H38 --- Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0125401A233601080000
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019HM 003005
   ROD: N / A
   VCID: 7DF5FDC75D61

No ASAM data for: "EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019HM" (VN75)
No error found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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addr 02: Aut. gearbox (J743) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 0BT 300 011 Q HW: 0BH 927 711 C
   Part: DSG DQ500-7A H08 2236
   Revision: 00H08V01
   Coding: 0014
   Workshop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
   VCID: 3C7330C306FB

No error found.

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addr 03: ABS brakes (-----) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 7E0 907 379 L HW: 7E0 907 379 L
   Part: ESP MK25A XT H50 0113
   Revision: 00H50001
   Coding: 108764AD19A5089E26A998773A6592
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 49152
   VCID: 3B7133DF03F5

No error found.

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addr 08: Climate / heating (J255) Labels: SVO \ 7E5-907-040.clb
   Control unit SW: 7E5 907 040 AC HW: 7E5 907 040 AC
   Part: ClimatronicT5 H19 0407
   Revision: 00001004
   Coding: 0000000103
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicT5 A01003
   ROD: EV_ClimatronicT5_VN75.rod
   VCID: 69DDB99739E9

   Control unit SW: 7E5 907 049 B HW: 7E5 907 049 B
   Part: Heckbedienung H10 0202
   Serial number: BHB-0012302150015053

1 Fault Found:
9476629 - Rear air distribution servomotor potentiometer
             B109A 15 - interruption or short circuit to plus
             defect info:
                    Defect condition: 00000001
                    Priority of faults: 2
                    Frequency of faults: 28
                    Reset counter: 2
                    Mileage: 217687 km
                    Date: 2071.14.05
                    Time: 18:15:02


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addr 09: Central electrics (J519) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 7H0 937 090 D HW: 7H0 937 090
   Part: BCM PQ25 Max4 H78 0725
   Revision: B9078001 Serial number: 0671 040150910
   Coding: A0F2793A0A613413932889716CAB8FD50290662F7E855840320003020800
   Workshop #: WSC 02759 790 00000
   VCID: 2F69178FC78D

   Control unit: 1K0 955 559 AH
   Part: RLS 160215 05 54 0403
   Coding: 02252E

   Control unit SW: 7E0 959 801 J HW: 7E0 959 801 J
   Part: J386__TSG_FT 003 8653
   Coding: 0400A1

   Control unit SW: 7E0 959 802 J HW: 7E0 959 802 J
   Part: J387__TSG_BT 003 8653
   Coding: 1400A1

   Control unit: 7E1 951 171
   Part: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0104
   Coding: 000000

   Control unit: 1K0 951 605 C
   Part: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501
   Coding: 000000

   Control unit: 7E1 951 171
   Part: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0104
   Coding: 000000

   Control unit SW: 3C8 959 537 D HW: 3C8 959 537 D
   Part: E221__MFL-TK6 H07 0023
   Coding: E20000

No error found.

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addr 0D: Left sliding door Labels: not selected
   Control unit: 7E0 959 243 D
   Part: Schiebetuer-SG 407 0328
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 306B14F3DAB3

No error found.

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addr 10: Park Assist (J446) Labels: SVO \ 7E0-919-475.clb
   Control unit SW: 7E0 919 475 L HW: 7N0 919 475
   Part: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0106
   Revision: -------- Serial number: 28231502101037
   Coding: 318102
   Workshop #: WSC 02739 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K.rod
   VCID: 3B7133DF03F5

No error found.

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addr 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: SVO \ 5K0-959-655.clb
   Control unit SW: 7E0 959 655 C HW: 7E0 959 655 C
   Part: VW10Airbag003 H07 0013
   Revision: -------- Serial Number: 003HM005YUH%
   Coding: 0000000000000000000000000000000000003033
   Workshop #: WSC 02754 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VN75.rod
   VCID: 366722EB38D7

   Side airbag impact sensor; driver's side:
   Serial number: 3495ZRB400252QV67OTF

   Side airbag impact sensor; passenger side:
   Serial number: 3505ZRB400452QV6H9GY

   Rear side airbag impact sensor; driver's side:
   Serial number: 3515ZRB400I52QV6F9F3

   Rear side airbag impact sensor; passenger side:
   Serial number: 3525ZRB400452QV6GGG%

No error found.

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addr 17: Instrument panel (J285) Labels: SVO \ 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Control unit SW: 7E0 920 880 N HW: 7E0 920 880 N
   Part: KOMBI H03 0605
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 160D01
   Workshop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN75.rod
   VCID: 356525E725D1

No error found.

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addr 18: Auxiliary heating Labels: not selected
   Control unit: 7E0 819 008 F
   Part: J737__Standheizung 0605
   Revision: 00086000 Serial Number: 09024901A00000
   Coding: 0021332
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 2C530083F69B

No error found.

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addr 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: SVO \ 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Control unit SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 090
   Part: GW-K-CAN TP20 H78 0725
   Revision: B9078001
   Coding: 042200
   Workshop #: WSC 02759 790 00000
   VCID: F0EB54F39A33

No error found.

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addr 22: All-wheel drive Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 09N 907 554 C HW: 09N 907 554 C
   Part: Haldex 4Motion 6010
   Coding: 0000007
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 387B2CD332C3

No error found.

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addr 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: SVO \ 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Control unit SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
   Part: IMMO H03 0605
   Serial number:
   Coding: 000000
   Workshop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VN75.rod
   VCID: EADF469BBCEF

No error found.

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addr 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels: SVO \ 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Control unit SW: 5N0 035 342 G HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Part: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770
   Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7670074584
   Coding: 010100
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 2B51039FF395

No error found.

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addr 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 7E0 035 686 A HW: 7E0 035 686 A
   Part: RNS-MID H27 6276
   Revision: AB001001 Serial Number: VWZ6Z7R9041044
   Coding: 04050002010000A00014
   Workshop #: WSC 02754 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
   VCID: 295DF997F969

   Control unit: 1T0 051 859 AS
   Part: EU West V17 8557

1 Fault Found:
00862 - antenna for GPS navigation (R50 / R52)
            007 - short to ground - Sporadic
             defect info:
                    Defect status: 00100111
                    Priority of faults: 5
                    Frequency of faults: 2
                    Reset counter: 1
                    Mileage: 218686 km
                    Time indication: 0
                    Date: 2007.14.23
                    Cas: 08:17:29


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addr 3C: Ride change. Labels Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 7E0 907 566 B HW: 4L0 907 566 A
   Part: J0769 SWA MasterH14 0120
   Revision: 00H14000 Serial Number: 6PZ 009 014-07
   Coding: 0010161
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 2F69178FC78D

   Control unit: 7E0 907 568 B
   Part: J0770 SWA Slave H11 0120

No error found.

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addr 47: Audio system Labels: SVO \ 3C0-035-456.lbl
   Control unit SW: 7E0 035 466 D HW: 7E0 035 466 D
   Part: DSP 10 Channel 0010
   Revision: 00H04001 Serial Number: 75827014147404
   Workshop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 285BFC93E263

No error found.

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addr 55: Xenon Reg. (J431) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
   Part: LWR-ECU H02 0070
   Revision: -------- Serial Number: --------------
   Coding: 028A000001000000
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VN75.rod
   VCID: F7F96FEFFF5D

No error found.

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addr 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 7E0 035 686 A HW: 7E0 035 686 A
   Part: RNS-MID H27 6276
   Revision: AB001001 Serial Number: VWZ6Z7R9041044
   Coding: 04050002010000A00014
   Workshop #: WSC 02754 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
   VCID: 295DF997F969

   Control unit: 1T0 051 859 AS
   Part: EU West V17 8557

1 Fault Found:
00862 - antenna for GPS navigation (R50 / R52)
            007 - short to ground - Sporadic
             defect info:
                    Defect status: 00100111
                    Priority of faults: 5
                    Frequency of faults: 2
                    Reset counter: 1
                    Mileage: 218686 km
                    Time indication: 0
                    Date: 2007.14.23
                    Cas: 08:17:29


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addr 61: Battery control (J840) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 7H0 907 534 HW: 7H0 937 090
   Part: Batt.regelung H78 0725
   Serial number: 0671 040150910
   Coding: 330B1A73
   Workshop #: WSC 02737 790 00000
   VCID: EBD1439FB315

   Control unit SW: 7E0 915 181 F HW: 7E0 915 181 F
   Part: J367-BDM H08 0223

No error found.

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addr 69: Trailer function (J345) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 1K0 907 383 G HW: 1K0 907 383 G
   Part: Anhaenger H12 0110
   Revision: 3B001001 Serial number: 00000360355069
   Coding: 410D000101000000
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 316D11F7D1B9

No error found.

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addr 6C: Rear view camera Labels: SVO \ 5N0-907-441.clb
   Control unit SW: 7E0 907 441 HW: 7E0 907 441
   Part: J772__Rearview 0040
   Revision: 00H13000 Serial Number: 525PA8-JA10343
   Coding: 0030015
   Workshop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: E5C535A755F1

No error found.

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addr 6E: Roof display unit. (J702) Labels: not selected
   Control unit SW: 7E5 919 037 G HW: 7E5 919 037 G
   Part: Roof display H15 0185
   Revision: 10100011 Serial number: 371320
   Coding: 000203
   Workshop #: WSC 02739 790 00000
   VCID: 356525E725D1

No error found.

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addr 78: Right sliding door Labels: not selected
   Control unit: 7E0 959 243 D
   Part: Schiebetuer-SG 407 0328
   Workshop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 306B14F3DAB3

No error found.

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Re: Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

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Yes the bcm is perfectly suited for automatic lights
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and the rain sensor ...

Control unit: 1K0 955 559 AH
Part: RLS 160215 05 54 0403
Coding: 02252E

... it is also a light sensor.

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Your T5 with Start/Stop system does not need most of the wires mentioned in this thread.

I'm going to take a look at erWin for your T5. Feb :?: 2015.
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In fact and according to erWin diagrams, your T5 2015 with bixenon headlights (Original equipment) and Start/Stop system (7L6) should have a 10-pin light switch connector instead of a 17-pin one.

Basically you just have to install a new wire, from T10/2 to T73a/37, and a new light switch with the Auto function.
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Code the BCM and enjoy the new Automatic lights function.
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:shock: so exiting news.

no relays, or fuses? wow :o

this is how is look like my current light switch. according to your post viewtopic.php?p=577197#p577197, the new one should be 3C8 941 431A XSH?
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Yes, you can get the 3C8941431A. The 3C8941431C is front+rear fog. The ...A is front + rear fog + auto function. Should be perfectly fine.
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miku73 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:24 am :shock: so exiting news.

no relays, or fuses? wow :o
yes, your T5 (Bixenon + 7L6) has an original electrical installation like the T6, the best for PQ25. :wink:
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Hi Ciclo, the cable is on the place. Could you be so kind and help me with coding? thank you many times.
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