BCM High to BCM Max, AFS, LED Headlights and HBA

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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS, LED Headlights and HBA

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WL4

T73b/4 - T6/3 New Dimmer
T73b/7 - exT17/16 (original) plate lights
T73b/29 - T17/3 (isolate original T17/3)
TT73b/43 - T17/9
T73a/6 - exT17/9 (original)
T73a/45 -T17/16 (isolate original T73a/45)

WL5

T73b/12 - T6/5 reverse Tail light
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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS, LED Headlights and HBA

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T73b/7 was already in WL4 wiring :oops: Thanks Ciclo! :mrgreen:

I need to install the cluster or update the EEPROM first?
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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS, LED Headlights and HBA

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federicodrdpro wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:49 pm T73b/7 was already in WL4 wiring :oops: Thanks Ciclo! :mrgreen:

I need to install the cluster or update the EEPROM first?
You need read immo block from old cluster via OBD, then remove eeprom from new cluster, update eeprom with corrupted immo block then reassembly eeprom to new cluster establish security access write immo block from old cluster and plug new cluster to car. Pease store your abs coding before laboring with new cluster.
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Can I do this with VCP?
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No, immo block is encrypted by uController private key. This key is different for all clusters. You need special tools for reading and writting immo block.
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federicodrdpro wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:49 pm T73b/7 was already in WL4 wiring :oops: Thanks Ciclo! :mrgreen:

I need to install the cluster or update the EEPROM first?
No.
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explorer232 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:40 pm No, immo block is encrypted by uController private key. This key is different for all clusters. You need special tools for reading and writting immo block.
Which is the name of the tool?
I am thinking to go in a VW dealer for change the cluster. (Cheaper than tool?)
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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS, LED Headlights and HBA

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federicodrdpro wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:57 pm
explorer232 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:40 pm No, immo block is encrypted by uController private key. This key is different for all clusters. You need special tools for reading and writting immo block.
Which is the name of the tool?
I am thinking to go in a VW dealer for change the cluster. (Cheaper than tool?)
Yes cheaper as tool. But dealer can pair only new cluster, not used. If you have used one, you need specialised software as avdi, fvdi, carprog, smoke xcan but min. price is about 1K for tool or send me PM I can help you.
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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS, LED Headlights and HBA

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I plugged new wirings, new BCM, new dimmer and LED headlights. I can't communicate with Instrument Cluster. :?

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Monday,29,January,2018,15:07:31:00001
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY020628   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 55 0B

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY020628   

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J0000-CFWA)       Labels:. 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
   Part No SW: 03P 906 021     HW: 03P 907 425 A
   Component: R3 1.2 DCM3.7 H06 8410  
   Revision: 11002001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114014002400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021 001010
   ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021.rod
   VCID: 65C089086461C76E19-8030

4 Faults Found:
14007 - No Communication with Instrument Cluster 
          U0155 00 [063] - -
          Confirmed - Not Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 15 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 21 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.039 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 0
                    OBD Driver demand indicated torque: 0 %
                    Communication status of data bus 1: CAN Bus ON
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status: 00000000 
                    Terminal 15 status: On
                    Gear Ratio: 0
                    Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value: 15 °C

15648 - Please Check Fault Codes in Instrument Cluster 
          U1024 00 [063] - -
          Confirmed - Not Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 15 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 21 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.031 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 0
                    Exh.gas temp.sen 1: 12 °C
                    Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value: 15 °C
                    Exh.gas temp.sen 3: 12 °C
                    Exh.gas temp.sen 4: 12 °C
                    Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value: 15 °C
                    Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value: 15 °C

13973 - No Communication with Instrument Cluster 
          U0155 00 [063] - -
          Confirmed - Not Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 15 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 21 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.046 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 0
                    OBD Driver demand indicated torque: 0 %
                    Communication status of data bus 1: CAN Bus ON
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status: 00000000 
                    Terminal 15 status: On
                    Gear Ratio: 0
                    Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value: 15 °C

13974 - No Communication with Instrument Cluster 
          U0155 00 [063] - -
          Confirmed - Not Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 15 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 21 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.046 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 0
                    OBD Driver demand indicated torque: 0 %
                    Communication status of data bus 1: CAN Bus ON
                    Cruise Control System (CCS): status: 00000000 
                    Terminal 15 status: On
                    Gear Ratio: 0
                    Sensor for engine block temperature: raw value: 15 °C

Readiness: 1110 1000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AK    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3416F00B2842B14E482D900421700
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 071CA380B22D357ECB-8052

3 Faults Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100101
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0002
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x1219
                    Hex Value: 0x1498
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                    Hex Value: 0x7FF9

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0002
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x1211
                    Hex Value: 0x2598
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                    Hex Value: 0x7FF9

00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0002
                    Hex Value: 0x0000
                    Hex Value: 0x1232
                    Hex Value: 0x1498
                    Hex Value: 0x007F
                    Hex Value: 0x7F7F
                    Hex Value: 0x7FF9


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 G    HW: 6R0 820 045 G
   Component: Man AC         02 0101  
   Revision: 0002S 02    
   VCID: 326A22546D2F60D64C-8066

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 C    HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    Serial number: 4000 128171814
   Coding: 3CB02BBF08E32600923808006D2F8CD00088672F60860000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 18752 008 00032
   VCID: 2B543F304A05311E0F-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB    HW: 6R0 959 801 AB  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU030051100011446
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD    HW: 6R0 959 802 AD  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU025051100015419
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: K8 951 171 A    HW: K89 511 71A 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Serial number: ÿK8951171A  °103
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU027051100012627
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU027051100013292
   Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX00NWXFQ
   Coding: 003232
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4A9A5AB4EDBF081614-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB40550INGS999T

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB40570INGSBHPF

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB40510JNPM7P50

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB404P0K4DOA8O1

2 Faults Found:
12670208 - No Communication with Instrument Cluster 
          U0155 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

12674816 - Immobilizer Control Module 
          U0167 00 [009] - No Communications
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 C
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0752  
   Revision: B9082001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 18752 008 00032
   VCID: 68DE803C9B73DA0622-803C

3 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Time Indication: 0

00381 - Databus Instrument Cluster 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11210
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6C2B20EA1D4D3E23-807A

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0202000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77FCD340CECD45FEBB-8022

3 Faults Found:
5256213 - Front Vehicle Height/Level Sensor 
          C114D 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

5256725 - Rear Vehicle Height/Level Sensor 
          C114E 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

13705477 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00


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Light dimmer don't work. Low Beam, High Beam and turn signal lights works fine but LED position don't work. (Coding?)
I have to register the keys yet.

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New wires:
1 0.5mm2 wire from T73b/4 BCM to dimmer T6aa/3
1 0.5mm2 wire from T73b/54 BCM to tacho T32/28
1 0.5mm2 wire from T73b/57 BCM to tacho T32/29
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Thanks iichel but I already plugged this wires. :?
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Hm, maybe re-check the wires to the IC. Fitting these two new wires should solve the issue with the cluster communication. Are you sure the wires are in correctly etc.?

For the button illumination (terminal 58 output to dimmer), you'll need to enable byte 27 bit 1. Maybe ciclo can help you to check the rest of the coding. He is very skilled at this.
3CB02BBF08E32600923808006D2F8CD00088672F60860000200000020000
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Yes, I already checked this wires.

The tacho now:
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EDIT:
iichel wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:23 pm For the button illumination (terminal 58 output to dimmer), you'll need to enable byte 27 bit 1. Maybe ciclo can help you to check the rest of the coding. He is very skilled at this.
3CB02BBF08E32600923808006D2F8CD00088672F60860000200000020000
Ok, the dimmer work now.
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Could you please clarify, when you added new wires:
0.5mm2 wire from T73b/54 BCM to tacho T32/28
0.5mm2 wire from T73b/57 BCM to tacho T32/29

What you did with wires, which was in T32/28 and T32/29? Have you extracted them and isolated, or you connect new wires to them?
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I extracted and isolated old T32/28 and T32/29 wires then I plugged new T32/28-T73b/54 and T32/29-T73b/57.
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