BCM High to BCM Max, AFS, LED Headlights and HBA

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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS and LED Headlights

Post by firegrafik »

ciclo wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:41 am
Have you checked the exterior lights with the light switch in 0 position (not Auto) and when opening the rear lid with the driver's door switch?
Checked, in all light switch positions, and with all ways of opening boot lid. Nothing unusual happens with exterinal lights.

Anyway, if I remember correct when I studied T6 diagrams. If T6 has rear lid so the T73b/56 is used for it, in this case only one T73b/28 is used as PWM for both LED headlights through the splitting relay.
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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS and LED Headlights

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The relay is only with wing doors (diagrams below), with rear lid are direct signals from BCM.

Thank you very much for all the checks you did, maybe one day we'll discover if these two signals/wires with PWM are only for diagnosis of the LED headlights modules or have some other function.

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In any case, the J1069 relay representation in the diagram is intriguing ... :lol:
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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS and LED Headlights

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Auto Scan with 17.8 VAG cable.

Code: Select all

Tuesday,16,January,2018,10:09:12:00001
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY020628   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44 55

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY020628   Mileage: 82520km-51275miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J0000-CFWA)       Labels:. 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
   Part No SW: 03P 906 021     HW: 03P 907 425 A
   Component: R3 1.2 DCM3.7 H06 8410  
   Revision: 11002001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114014002400080000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021 001010
   ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021.rod
   VCID: 65C089086461C76E19-8030

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AK    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210228E3416F00B2842B14E482D900421700
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 071CA380B22D357ECB-8052

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 G    HW: 6R0 820 045 G
   Component: Man AC         02 0101  
   Revision: 0002S 02    
   VCID: 326A22546D2F60D64C-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0251  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0434 160111826
   Coding: 3CB02BBF08E32600923808006D2F8CD00088672F60860000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12469 483 00190
   VCID: 45806988CCA1E76EF9-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB    HW: 6R0 959 801 AB  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU030051100011446
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD    HW: 6R0 959 802 AD  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU025051100015419
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: K8 951 171 A    HW: K89 511 71A 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Serial number: ÿK8951171A  °103
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU027051100012627
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU027051100013292
   Coding: 08BC32

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX00NWXFQ
   Coding: 003232
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4A9A5AB4EDBF081614-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575HRB40550INGS999T

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3585HRB40570INGSBHPF

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB40510JNPM7P50

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB404P0K4DOA8O1

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 861 H    HW: 6R0 920 861 H
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140A01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3A7A0A74BD5F989684-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0251  
   Revision: BF046001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 12469 483 00190
   VCID: 70EEE85CA3A312C67A-8024

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 82348 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2012.06.01
                    Time: 10:04:14


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0505  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6ADAFA348D7FE81634-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11210
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6C2B20EA1D4D3E23-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0202000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77FCD340CECD45FEBB-8022

4 Faults Found:
5256213 - Front Vehicle Height/Level Sensor 
          C114D 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 26
                    Reset counter: 106
                    Mileage: 82348 km
                    Date: 2018.01.09
                    Time: 10:04:38

5256725 - Rear Vehicle Height/Level Sensor 
          C114E 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 26
                    Reset counter: 106
                    Mileage: 82348 km
                    Date: 2018.01.09
                    Time: 10:04:38

5276949 - Positioning Motor for Headlight Range Left 
          C1085 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 98
                    Mileage: 82348 km
                    Date: 2018.01.09
                    Time: 10:04:38

5277205 - Positioning Motor for Headlight Range Right 
          C1086 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 98
                    Mileage: 82348 km
                    Date: 2018.01.09
                    Time: 10:04:38


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AFS Module still rejected the code. I tried "0116000001000000" and "0110000001000000".
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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS and LED Headlights

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same like mine. cannot code byte 0 to 01. but i ve no error. I knew i bought second hand afs module from a polo. not T5. thats make me wonder. [emoji848]


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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS and LED Headlights

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federicodrdpro wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:21 am AFS Module still rejected the code. I tried "0116000001000000" and "0110000001000000".
As indicated by firegrafik, your AFS unit comes from a T5.
Buy a new one for your Polo 6R ... 6R0907357 Z03 (ESP)

Your coding for AFS unit should be this:
- with RLS... 0112000001000000
- without RLS... 0110000001000000

- in no case: 0116000001000000 (RHD, RLS)
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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS and LED Headlights

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ciclo wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:07 am As indicated by firegrafik, your AFS unit comes from a T5.
Buy a new one for your Polo 6R ... 6R0907357 Z03 (ESP)

Your coding for AFS unit should be this:
- with RLS... 0112000001000000
- without RLS... 0110000001000000

- in no case: 0116000001000000 (RHD, RLS)
Thanks for the details. I am waiting for Vag Can Pro cable. I could try to edit the coding before buy a new AFS unit.
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federicodrdpro wrote:I am waiting for Vag Can Pro cable. I could try to edit the coding before buy a new AFS unit.
If i understand correctly, with VCP, we can reflash the software inside the module to the correct one. So, any idea where can we get the new software file? I would like to flash the software as well.


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just a wild guess, but maybe read it from an existing module? :D
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Now I have LED headlights, BCM 7E0937090C, 6Q0941334 dimmer and 2H0920871B Cluster (thanks to firegrafik).

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I bought a new manual lights switch to install LED headlights, new BCM and new Cluster without Auto lights. (Like Pave's guide)
I am waiting to receive the new Stalk 7E0953507B , new HBA mirror 7E0857511G with the RLS 5K7955559B .

LED headlights + BCM 7E0 + 6Q0941334 dimmer + manual lights switch wiring:

Remove Relay J331
Install the Relay carrier

WL1

T73b/54 - T32/28
T73b/57 - T32/29

WL2

Left:
T14 / 1 - AFS T26 / 17
T14 / 2 - AFS T26 / 19
T14 / 3 - AFS T26 / 16
T14 / 4 - AFS T26 / 18
T14 / 5 - halogen connector T10 / 5
T14 / 6 - halogen connector T10 / 6
T14 / 7 - halogen connector T10 / 5
T14 / 8 - halogen connector T10 / 1
T14 / 9 - halogen connector T10 / 9
T14 / 10 - BCM T73b / 5
T14 / 11 - halogen connector T10 / 8
T14 / 12 - BCM T73b / 3
T14 / 13 - Vacant
T14 / 14 - BCM T73b / 56

Right:
T14 / 1 - AFS T26 / 15
T14 / 2 - AFS T26 / 21
T14 / 3 - AFS T26 / 22
T14 / 4 - AFS T26 / 20
T14 / 5 - halogen connector T10 / 5
T14 / 6 - halogen connector T10 / 6
T14 / 7 - halogen connector T10 / 5
T14 / 8 - halogen connector T10 / 1
T14 / 9 - halogen connector T10 / 9
T14 / 10 - T73b / 6
T14 / 11 - halogen connector T10 / 8
T14 / 12 - T73a / 5
T14 / 13 - Vacant
T14 / 14 - T73b / 28

WL3

T73b/2 - exSB39 (yellow original) (output to right low beam)
T73b/68 - SB39 with terminal (input)
T73a/2 - exSB59 (yellow/black original wire) (output to left low beam)
T73a/63 - SB59 with terminal (input)
T73a/62 - exSB34 (white/green original wire) - SB34 terminal

WL4

T73b/4 - T6/3 New Dimmer
T73b/7 - exT17/16 (original)
T73b/29 - T17/3 (isolate original T17/3)
TT73b/43 - T17/9
T73a/6 - exT17/9 (original)
T73a/45 -T17/16 (isolate original T73a/45)

WL5

T73b/7 - License plate lights
T73b/12 - T6/5 Left Tail light

I need the WL5 in my Polo?

And everything work like a charm :lol:

Am I on the right way? :mrgreen:
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Re: BCM High to BCM Max, AFS, LED Headlights and HBA

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Post some photo’s once done, before and after 👍🏼
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just to check, you know that HBA requires auto light switch via BCM?
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Fatherless One wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:08 pm Post some photo’s once done, before and after 👍🏼
Yes, sure! :wink:
iichel wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:17 pm just to check, you know that HBA requires auto light switch via BCM?
Yes I know, but I don't have already installed the RLS. Ciclo told me that in the first place I should install the wiring for BCM Max adaptation with LED headlights. Then I can install other equipments.
Step 1: Install BCM Max + LED headlights + manual lights switch (meanwhile I can install the new cluster)
Step 2: Install HBA mirror (with windscreen adjustment) + new Stalk + Auto lights switch

Please, tell me if I'm wrong. :)
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that makes sense, yes. proceed! :mrgreen:
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federicodrdpro wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:42 pm
Fatherless One wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:08 pm Post some photo’s once done, before and after 👍🏼
Yes, sure! :wink:
iichel wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:17 pm just to check, you know that HBA requires auto light switch via BCM?
Yes I know, but I don't have already installed the RLS. Ciclo told me that in the first place I should install the wiring for BCM Max adaptation with LED headlights. Then I can install other equipments.
Step 1: Install BCM Max + LED headlights + manual lights switch (meanwhile I can install the new cluster)
Step 2: Install HBA mirror (with windscreen adjustment) + new Stalk + Auto lights switch

Please, tell me if I'm wrong. :)
You can do the whole installation at one time if it is your wish.

But you told us the conditioning factors:
- Times to receive the pieces.
- Money available for each moment. (this happens to everyone)
- Light sensor, windshield, etc...

So, makes sense to prioritize the installation processes. All installation processes (levels) are explained in this forum.
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As I told, in the first place I will install BCM Max + LED headlights + manual lights switch. It's not a problem of money, I already bought all parts. I am only waiting to receive some parts. Next week I should receive all necessary to install LED headlights with manual lights switch. :wink:

If I understood I have to make a new wiring for the reverse Tail light and License plate lights.

WL5

T73b/7 - License plate lights
T73b/12 - T6/5 reverse Tail light

Ciclo, can you confirm?

P.S. I am reading several threads from days but many infos are difficult to find.
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