BCM Max PQ25, adaptation. Automatic lights. Skoda Citigo/VW Up!

[danikd]

Hi Ciclo and other 6R fans,

can you please help me with Polos little brother Citigo MY2013 which is 2nd car in family. Citigo/Up! share same technology as Polo so I make some retrofits with help of Polos fans instructions ...
Max BCM, MFSW, Maxidot Cluster, Cruise COntrol, RLS ...
All is working OK, only need to adapt BCM/Lights harness to the right one for autolight ... from old 17pin to new 10pin BCM controlled lights.
Now I used china autolight standalone unit, which works, but sometime very strange. And there are 3 errors in BCM, due improper connenction of BCM.
So I want to install Ciclos harness to resolve this.
Thx for everyones advices and suggestions.
Sorry for my bad English.
Nice day!

Daniel

Citigo MY2013
VIN : TMBZZZAAZDD615614

Recent scan - no changes after.

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Sunday,10,September,2017,19:48:22:61091
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: DD
Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345

VIN: TMBZZZAAZDD615614   License Plate: 
Mileage: 60780km-37766mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AA (1S0)
Scan: 01 03 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56 AD

VIN: TMBZZZAAZDD615614   Mileage: 60780km-37766miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
AD-Brake Sensors -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYA)       Labels: 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 020 K    HW: 04C 907 309 D
   Component: 1.0l R3 MPI   H01 6470  
   Revision: U7H01---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00110012022400000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020K 001010
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020.rod
   VCID: 23449CE433205256DD-8076

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 F    HW: 1S0 614 517 F
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H16 0022  
   Serial number: A00QBIZ
   Coding: 32BF247129AE02F64C0024F694AD4040590100
   Shop #: WSC 57334 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW 002004
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPEBC460TRW_VW12.rod
   VCID: 32577AD97FF7E83F45-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1S0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 937 090 F    HW: 1S0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 1MX4 H81 0744  
   Revision: BW081001    Serial number: 0978 133170077
   Coding: 6CB82B0000010000000800042C28A6C000C0400C60020000200000400000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 365372AD67C3C0DB25-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 111115 03  37  0059 
   Coding: 0080DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 L    HW: 5E0 919 719 L
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H02 0160 
   Serial number: 000000000B0452131116
   Coding: 820000

3 Faults Found:
03431 - Activation of Left Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 1
                    Mileage: 60787 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.09.10
                    Time: 04:19:02

03432 - Activation of Right Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 1
                    Mileage: 60787 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.09.10
                    Time: 04:19:02

01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 1
                    Mileage: 60787 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.09.10
                    Time: 04:19:02


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 1Sx-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1ST 919 475     HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H03 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32901224704087
   Coding: 100001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SK1200000 001001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SE1200000.rod
   VCID: 1B3CAC1C1348629E1D-804E

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 959 655     HW: 1S0 959 655 
   Component: VW10Airbag00E H03 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003G3004KBR+
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003045
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 7B9CECFC9368A23E1D-802E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3495RRB40591GLOMAGHG

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3505RRB405J1GLOOE0C3

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3555NRB405R1HA3O6P8.

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1ST 920 860 Q    HW: 1ST 920 860 Q
   Component: KOMBI         H09 0021  
   Revision: X0009005    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 114A00
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A04708
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A04_VW12.rod
   VCID: 62871A293FE7C88FC5-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1S0 909 901     HW: 1S0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744  
   Revision: BW081001    
   Coding: 002000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 708906034FA11C6D75-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 1ST 920 860 Q
   Component: IMMO          H09 0021  
   Revision: X0009005    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
   ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW01.rod
   VCID: 6A8F0A315FDF384785-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels: 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S1 909 144 G    HW: 1S1 909 144 G
   Component: EPS_ECU       H30 1503  
   Coding: 0001000101000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 009004
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_009.rod
   VCID: 375074A863DCCAE23D-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1ST 035 156 A    HW: 1ST 035 156 A
   Component: Radio         H35 0050  
   Revision: R0000000    Serial number: SKZAZ1M3007678
   Coding: 0000020801
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 4D6A406AC34E4E786D-8018

No fault code found.

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Address AD: Brake Sensors (J939)       Labels: 1S0-907-201.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 907 201 A    HW: 1S0 907 201 A
   Component: CV-SENSOR     H06 0460  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CVSen 001001
   ROD: EV_CVSen.rod
   VCID: 284196FB2709AC75B5-807C

1 Fault Found:
12291 - External Control Module 
          P150F 00 [009] - Incorrectly Coded
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 1
                    Mileage: 60787 km
                    Date: 2017.09.10
                    Time: 04:19:01


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[ciclo]

Hello Daniel and welcome again.

Under study.
You must have patience, now I am very busy with my own modifications.

[danikd]

ciclo, thx a lot ... think that will be same as polo, only fuse box is different ... let me know. Thx a lot. Daniel

[ciclo]

Very similar (PQ25 platform) but it is not exactly the same. The fuse box is the main reason to do a study.
We will try to do it in the cheapest way possible with original parts.

What is the reference number of the light switch with Auto function that you will use?

Please, take one o two photos (general view) of your Citigo in which we see the headlights and the light sensor.
Also a general image from the fuse box/relay carrier/BCM support so that I can imagine the lengths of the wires to be installed, the Citigo is unknown to me.
Btw, many thanks for the other images.

[danikd]

Hello,

now I use china headlight switch from china light sensor kit. In the evening I find original OEM part number. But I think that connection is same on all of these ...
Now there are original preFL headlights ( 1xH1 bulb ), later I will retrofit original FL headlights with LED daylight ( 2x H7 bulbs ). Both has same harness, only new one has merged whole harness to one 10 pin connector on the back of the headlight. Old one has splitted cables to the bulbs ... Harness is same, even colours - few Citigo users changed headlights these days ...
RLS sensor I have retrofited ( including wind shield ), harness like OEM way - I have RLS from aliexpress 5K7 955 559 B, but will be changed for original Citigo 5K7 955 559 C. I have it, only not installed yet.
RLS is working, rain sensor part only ...
BCM is on the back of relay carrier ( very bad access - so impossible to make general photo ) and fusebox is mounted on the bottom of relay holder, fuses facing floor. So from anywhere ( BCM-Fusebox-Relays ) its short way, about 20-30cm ...
See drawing I find for idea, I add fusebox location - red pencil ...
Thx a lot for your time!

Daniel

[danikd]

Hello ciclo, is type of switch important? I cant find the right one for now ... Daniel

[ciclo]

Hello Daniel. Sorry for delay, I've been really busy.

The study is finished. Everything will work perfectly in your Citigo with my special wiring for BCM Max adaptation and wiring for automatic lights.
I'll do an installation guide.

The BCM Max adaptation wiring will include the necessary signal for your present and future DRLs (under BCM control, it is needed for automatic lights).

Your current electrical installation of DRLs is not correct for automatic lights. It is solved by isolating the T17/3 light switch connector wire.
Now you must do a new electrical installation for DRLs by installing two new wires:
- from T73b/3 to T3d/1 .... left headlight.
- from T73a/5 to T3g/1 .... right headlight.
Current wires in headlights for DRLs are violet/green in T3 connectors, remove from connectors and isolate them with cloth tape.
Install the new wires in their place.

Later you will install these new wires in the T10 new connectors of new H7 headlights with LED DRLs.


Well, I need you do the next thing before I manufacture your wiring looms:
- Verify that a green/white wire is present in T73a/62 BCM black connector.
- Make a 'NEW' VCDS autoscan. (Mandatory )

[ciclo]

Possible light switches with Auto function for your Citigo.
1Z0941431K
5L0941431E
Do a search on google, ebay, aliexpress, etc, with these reference numbers.

However, if you know another reference number, please let me know before you buy it.

[danikd]

Hello ciclo!

Glad to hear that info. Many thanks for your work. I ordered 1Z0941431K.
Pls be patient, I am very busy too, adding new wires will be in 1-2 weeks.
After you send me new harness, will be there some more wires to engine compartment ( throught the firewall ) ?
Because its the worst part of the work and if will be there more wires, I will meke it now with two DRL wires ...
Thx for Info

Danel

[ciclo]

Hello ciclo!

Glad to hear that info. Many thanks for your work. I ordered 1Z0941431K.
Pls be patient, I am very busy too, adding new wires will be in 1-2 weeks.
After you send me new harness, will be there some more wires to engine compartment ( throught the firewall ) ?
Because its the worst part of the work and if will be there more wires, I will meke it now with two DRL wires ...
Thx for Info

Daniel

No, at least not related to this installation.
Please link me to the installation (DIY) of the H7 headlights with LED DRLs for the Citigo.

Please,

I need you do the next thing before I manufacture your wiring looms:
- Verify that a green/white wire is present in T73a/62 BCM black connector.
- Make a 'NEW' VCDS autoscan. (Mandatory )

[danikd]

There is no instruction for DIY new FL headlights ... only 2-3 people on Czech forum mention this and one that do it for one user wrote me that is only simple harness to connector swap. BUt on the other side, they sad that there is no dimming feature with turn signals... this is logical, its controlled via BCM ...
Pls be patient, I need one week to install new two wiress and check BCM ...
Thx Daniel

[ciclo]

Pls be patient,

Ok, Patient is my second name if ciclo name fails.

[danikd]

Thx a lot!

[ciclo]

Images. No comment.




From 1S0937086B

To 1S0937090F






What confirms some bugs in my Elsawin.

[ciclo]

Hi Daniel.

Do you have any device connected in the SC39 slot? (I see there are two terminals in this slot)

It is very important to know.