INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND

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INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND

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Hello everyone, greetings from India. :D

My daily drive is Polo6R 2015MY, TSI 1.2/DSG7/105hp hatchback.

I am planning to install Direct-TPMS in my Polo. I have read many threads and posts here about direct tpms being successfully installed in Polo6r. I too decided to add this luxury feature on my 6r. 8)

After studying the posts here, I realized that I need the following parts:

1) Maxidot cluster 6RD 920 870A (SW 0805, HWH 05) - Ordered.
2) TPMS Module 3AA 907 273F(Ordered).
3) Sensors 3AA 907 275F with wiring kit (ordered).
4) BCM Max 7E0 937 090 B or higher(yet to be ordered, need help to source the correct BCM).

Following are the relevent pictures which might help in tpms installation in my car:

Car front and back
PS: Headlights are plug and play with stock 10pin connectors without any modifications to stock wiring.
Taillights are plug and play with stock 6 pin connectors without any modifications to stock wiring.


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Headlight switch. I have installed Chinese auto headlight module with sensor.

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Stock headlight connector

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Dimmer switch
I have installed this dimmer switch(6Q0 941 333 C) with the help of Master ciclo. Details here :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=69646
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Fusebox layout
PS: SB15(5A) :arrow: used for autodimming IRVM without rain sensor installed(old Jetta mirror).My car did not come fitted with RLS.
SB24(5A) :arrow: used for glovebox light.
SB27(5A) :arrow: used for dashcam.
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Relay carrier

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latest VCDS autoscan
PS: I have bridged a wire between both reverse light and fog light, that might be reason for error code in central electricals.

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Sunday,26,May,2019,11:44:54:09269
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: MEXL15606GT048293   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 60-VW25 (6RU)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: MEXL15606GT048293   Mileage: 41700km-25911miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB)       Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
   Part No SW: 03F 906 070 KC    HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
   Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 6270  
   Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00250056232400080000
   Shop #: WSC 53863 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070KC 004006
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
   VCID: 6D84C0CEAD13BD3F45B-8038

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 065 N    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 6502  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501508317273
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01260 002 1048576
   VCID: 3A2E3B92A05DDA87909-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BN    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2463422703C8461624724254C0800908
   Shop #: WSC 29230 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003031
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 0B40AE56B3C7130FFBF-805E

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 10051504650275
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EA6F782F07536A7EC1-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 Q    HW: 6R0 907 044 Q
   Component: Climatronic   H12 0615  
   Revision: V0000000    
   VCID: 41DC4C7EC18B895FD13-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6RU 937 087 M    HW: 6RU 937 087 
   Component: BCM IM H+4    H40 0432  
   Revision: BZ040001    Serial number: 0300 294150201
   Coding: 3AB02BFF08A10000003800007C2B949000C0414F608C0000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 6C82CDCA9689B437525-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 CC    HW: 6R0 959 802 CC  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: -------------  007 5551 
   Serial number: 13102670150723005702
   Coding: 050000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BT    HW: 6R0 959 801 BT  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: -------------  007 5551 
   Serial number: 13202671150811192944
   Coding: 050000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442     HW: 6C0 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
   Serial number: 1971517275001536AB2B
   Coding: 240000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L    HW: 6R0 959 811 L
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13102580150623202239
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L    HW: 6R0 959 812 L
   Component: -------------  006 5550 
   Serial number: 13202581150812164218
   Coding: 020000

1 Fault Found:
00901 - Back-Up Lamps 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100110
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 15
                    Reset counter: 249
                    Mileage: 40629 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.06.03
                    Time: 18:41:38


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 J    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0105  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28261224902578
   Coding: 108101
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS_VW25.rod
   VCID: 392C249EA9DBD19F993-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW0118WCJ
   Coding: 003036
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 49CC545EF93B411F093-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6RF 920 861     HW: 6RF 920 861 
   Component: KOMBI         H01 0214  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 1408000000
   Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05729
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 084A915AA2B17817D6D-805C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RU 909 901     HW: 6RU 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H40 0432  
   Revision: BZ040001    
   Coding: 002300
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 196CC41E099BF19F793-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H01 0214  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8ECBD29CFDAA07209-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ECU       H61 1702  
   Coding: 0001000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014.rod
   VCID: 41DC4C7EC10B895FD13-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 A    HW: 6RD 035 187 A
   Component: MIB2-S-R-CN   025 0210  
   Revision: -----001    Serial number: 01855GD0000318
   Coding: 00000440010001
   Shop #: WSC 00081 790 00118
   VCID: 45D4586ED5A3A57FEDB-8010

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:09, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.8V)-----
If any further information is required, please let me know I will post.
I humbly request experts from the forum to guide me through this installation and any help will be forever appreciated. :)
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND

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Check if your Gateway has 65 Tire pressure available.

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ciclo wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 6:29 am Check if your Gateway has 65 Tire pressure available.

Yes master I have already checked but it is not there. :(
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This BCM is suitable?

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patil wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 12:33 pm This BCM is suitable?
Hello Patil, yes it suits. I have installed the same 2 months before - viewtopic.php?f=56&t=72122
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According to NO-OEM lights configuration in your 6R it would be interesting to find a BCM High (not MAX) that had available the 'address 65 Tire pressure' in the GW Installation List.

6R0 937 087 AB / AD / AE? I don't know, ask in drive2 or Team-BHP, these BCMs High are currently sold for the 6R-family in Russia, Malaysia and India.
I have searched, but this info is not available, you should ask some owner with VCDS to check the installation list in the GW.
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sshakthi123 wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 1:24 pm
patil wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 12:33 pm This BCM is suitable?
Hello Patil, yes it suits. I have installed the same 2 months before - viewtopic.php?f=56&t=72122
Hello Shakthi thanks for confirmation. :)
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ciclo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 7:56 am According to NO-OEM lights configuration in your 6R it would be interesting to find a BCM High (not MAX) that had available the 'address 65 Tire pressure' in the GW Installation List.

6R0 937 087 AB / AD / AE? I don't know, ask in drive2 or Team-BHP, these BCMs High are currently sold for the 6R-family in Russia, Malaysia and India.
I have searched, but this info is not available, you should ask some owner with VCDS to check the installation list in the GW.
Yes Master, it would be really interesting to find a bcm high model having 65 address in GW installation list. Another thing is that my car came fitted with cruise control on left stalk. Then we have to find a bcm high model which supports both TPMS and CC. :roll:

I will try to get help from drive2 and other forums. Inputs from Firegrafik and benzinkopf might throw some light. :lol:
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Master, I just spoke to a Russian seller, he told me BCM High 6R0 937 087 AD has 65 in GW installation list and supports CC as well. below is the picture he sent me.

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With some exceptions, all BCMs High for PQ25 support Cruise Control, and it seems that since mid-2017 or so they also support TPMS. You've been lucky ... :lol:

You must connect the power to +30 (+15 = wrong :lol:) , ground, and the CAN lines to the CAN lines for powertrain.

Since you have 8K PDC you can connect/splice the TPMS CAN lines in the CAN Lines for PDC unit.
Take a look here... PQ25 8K PDC diagrams:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lYuNwj ... sp=sharing (T16... 15 low , 6 high)

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ciclo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 6:07 pm With some exceptions, all BCMs High for PQ25 support Cruise Control, and it seems that since mid-2017 or so they also support TPMS. You've been lucky ... :lol:

You must connect the power to +30 (+15 = wrong :lol:) , ground, and the CAN lines to the CAN lines for powertrain.

Since you have 8K PDC you can connect/splice the TPMS CAN lines in the CAN Lines for PDC unit.
Take a look here... PQ25 8K PDC diagrams:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lYuNwj ... sp=sharing (T16... 15 low , 6 high)

Namaste.
BCM High supporting TPMS is a brilliant find Master, thank you. :D I have ordered the new BCM High 6R0 937 087 AD.

Will follow your instructions carefully. :)

I guess swapping BCM High to high is a clean swap , and to just follow instructions for BCM swapping mentioned in Ross Tech site.

Do I need to do any extra wiring for BCM?
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PQ25 BCM replacement
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... eplacement
Only/just that.


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Remote Control Matching
1st key.... channel 01 ... new value 0
2nd key.... channel 01 ... new value 0
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Ok master :D

All the parts are in transit, impatiently waiting :mrgreen: should have them by 2 to 3 weeks time.

Off topic, is it possible to enable seat belt reminder warning in 6R IND.? AFAIK there is no wiring to seat belt lock in our 6R. Is there a work around with existing airbag control unit or need to replace the ACU.
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What happens if you change byte 1 bit 1 of your cluster? That's module 17.
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iichel wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:44 am What happens if you change byte 1 bit 1 of your cluster? That's module 17.
Hello iichel namaste :D

I tried, nothing happens after selecting bit 1. Our Polo's all models sold here in India does not come with seat belt reminder warning, cost cutting by VW I suppose.

I think the ACU fitted doesn't have this feature enabled and moreover there is no wiring to our seat belt lock. I will try to dig out more information.
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