Patil's little Polo 6R 1.2 Tsi Dsg7 RHD
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Oh my ... very bad news, the damage is very serious.
It is absolutely necessary to remove the dashboard and check meticulously (with magnifying glass) for damage in the wires that run alongside the two burnt wires inside of original harnesses.
To do this, the original cloth tape must be removed from the original harnesses, with surgical precision to avoid cuts in the original wires.
The two burned wires, which are no longer functional, and now completely stripped, must be cut to avoid future problems.
This should be your number 1 priority if you want to safely use the car again. At this time your safety is not guaranteed if you drive the car in that state (without check for damage).
The car could catch fire spontaneously.
Do not use the car, remove the battery ground wire.
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You can make some preliminary checks in the original harness that reaches the T17 connector. Remove the original cloth tape as far as possible to check for damage to all wires that reach the T17 connector.
Remember the burnt yellow wire only goes from the T17/7 connector to the relay holder.
My concern in this matter is absolute at this time.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Ok Master, I can understand the gravity of the damage happened. I will take up the clean up job as soon as possible.
Any idea where the brown ground goes and connects?
Yes, I won't use the car, unless it is fully sterilised and safe to use again.
Thanks a lot Master for your deep concern, I will fix it up.
I will report back to you once the work begins.
Any idea where the brown ground goes and connects?
Yes, I won't use the car, unless it is fully sterilised and safe to use again.
Thanks a lot Master for your deep concern, I will fix it up.
I will report back to you once the work begins.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Earth connection in main wiring harness
- There are no specified connection points for all ground wires inside the harnesses.
- Only the connection points to the chassis. For example https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tuLt2f ... sp=sharing (7)
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Something new?
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Hello Master, sorry I am busy with my work, and as it might take more time to fix, I have planned the clean up job on weekend.
The car is safely grounded.
Thanks for the wiring diagram Master.
Should I install new replacement wires or isolating and removing the burnt wires is enough?
Will keep updating... Master.
The car is safely grounded.
Thanks for the wiring diagram Master.
Should I install new replacement wires or isolating and removing the burnt wires is enough?
Will keep updating... Master.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
The first thing is the thorough inspection of the all wires inside the original harnesses.
Due to how the current flows and how the temperature is transmitted it is possible that there is no damage to the wires inside the original harnesses, it depends on the heating time.
It must be verified in any case.
The section of any active wire inside harnesses that has damage to its insulation must be renewed, so that it can return to work within the recommended specifications (amperage, temperature, etc).
Take pictures and distances if you find these damages.
To avoid future problems, the both original burned wires (yellow and brown) should be cut.
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All day with this image in my head ...
I wish it never happened to you.
Due to how the current flows and how the temperature is transmitted it is possible that there is no damage to the wires inside the original harnesses, it depends on the heating time.
It must be verified in any case.
The section of any active wire inside harnesses that has damage to its insulation must be renewed, so that it can return to work within the recommended specifications (amperage, temperature, etc).
Take pictures and distances if you find these damages.
To avoid future problems, the both original burned wires (yellow and brown) should be cut.
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All day with this image in my head ...
I wish it never happened to you.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Aye Master, everything you said is cemented in my head. Will follow as advised with utmost care and precision.ciclo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:54 am The first thing is the thorough inspection of the all wires inside the original harnesses.
Due to how the current flows and how the temperature is transmitted it is possible that there is no damage to the wires inside the original harnesses, it depends on the heating time.
It must be verified in any case.
The section of any active wire inside harnesses that has damage to its insulation must be renewed, so that it can return to work within the recommended specifications (amperage, temperature, etc).
Take pictures and distances if you find these damages.
To avoid future problems, the both original burned wires (yellow and brown) should be cut.
I have called a VW technician to help me out, he obliged to come by my place and help me in clean up job over the weekend.
I will take a detailed pictures and post the results here. Thanks a lot for sending me a Tesa cloth tape, it will help.
The whole world will be laughing at my stupidity.
Showed this picture to my wife and said.. I broke the car. She couldn't believe it.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
No. This can happen to anyone.
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I have seen worse things from people who are supposed to be super specialists in these matters.
Well, you have a little reason, we laugh a little about it ... after the regrets.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Update:
Master, the operation on my 6R was successful.
2 days of intense hard work paid off well with happy ending.
Both the burnt wires were traced to their full length and removed. The brown ground wire was connected to the factory ground wires twist within the main wiring harness.(pictures below)
Luckily no other wires in the vicinity of both burnt wires were damaged.
The blunder I did, I must say, was a blessing in adversity... I could able to reorganise the previously retrofitted wiring harnesses systematically. And also my new OEM retrofit was done at the same time(will talk about it later).
Few wonderful people helped me to finish off the clean up successfully and they deserve to be mentioned and credited.. My heartfelt thanks to Mr Jayaram , VW technician, he was star of the show and did most of the work. I also immensely thank our forum members Shakthi, Nikhil and Sheetal for dropping in at my place during ongoing work, and sharing their knowledge and experience. We chatted a lot and it was fun...
I also thank you Master, for expressing serious concern and pushing me to fix the issue on urgent basis. Rightful Master
Autoscan latest:
And.....
Master, the operation on my 6R was successful.
2 days of intense hard work paid off well with happy ending.
Both the burnt wires were traced to their full length and removed. The brown ground wire was connected to the factory ground wires twist within the main wiring harness.(pictures below)
Luckily no other wires in the vicinity of both burnt wires were damaged.
The blunder I did, I must say, was a blessing in adversity... I could able to reorganise the previously retrofitted wiring harnesses systematically. And also my new OEM retrofit was done at the same time(will talk about it later).
Few wonderful people helped me to finish off the clean up successfully and they deserve to be mentioned and credited.. My heartfelt thanks to Mr Jayaram , VW technician, he was star of the show and did most of the work. I also immensely thank our forum members Shakthi, Nikhil and Sheetal for dropping in at my place during ongoing work, and sharing their knowledge and experience. We chatted a lot and it was fun...
I also thank you Master, for expressing serious concern and pushing me to fix the issue on urgent basis. Rightful Master
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Sunday,04,August,2019,20:45:33:09269
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: MEXL15606GT048293 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 60-VW25 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 37 44 5F 65 77
VIN: MEXL15606GT048293 Mileage: 43030km-26737miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CBZB) Labels:. 03F-906-070-CBZ.clb
Part No SW: 03F 906 070 KC HW: 03F 907 309 AJ
Component: SIMOS10.22AH10 6270
Revision: --H10--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 00250056232400080000
Shop #: WSC 53863 002 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070KC 004006
ROD: EV_ECM12TFS02103F906070FP.rod
VCID: 6D84C0CEAD13BD3F11F-8038
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0101
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
Part No SW: 0AM 300 065 N HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component: GSG DSG AG7 431 6502
Revision: 00043014 Serial number: CU501508317273
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 01260 002 1048576
VCID: 3A2E3B92A05DDA87C4D-806E
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BN HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
Component: ESP9.0i front H03 0001
Serial number: --------------
Coding: 62DD2463422703C8461624724254C0800908
Shop #: WSC 29230 002 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003031
ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
VCID: 0B40AE56B3C7130FAFB-805E
No fault code found.
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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085) Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 654 HW: 6R0 959 654
Component: LENKW.SENSOR H07 0070
Serial number: 10051504650275
Coding: 01
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
VCID: 7EA6F782F07536A7B85-802A
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6R0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 044 Q HW: 6R0 907 044 Q
Component: Climatronic H12 0615
Revision: V0000000
VCID: 41DC4C7EC18B895F857-8014
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 D HW: 7E0 937 090 D
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0762
Revision: B9082001 Serial number: 8601 222180475
Coding: 3AB02BFF08A10000003800C07C2B9490D2C061FF608C0000200400020000
Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
VCID: 2C020DCA56097437461-8078
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BH HW: 6R0 959 802 BH Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 8612
Serial number: KU0KU015041441050460
Coding: 1400B3
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 BC HW: 6R0 959 801 BC Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 8612
Serial number: KU0KU014041441047765
Coding: 0400B3
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 HW: 6C0 959 442
Component: E221__MFL-TAT H04 0019
Serial number: 1971517275001536AB2B
Coding: 240000
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L HW: 6R0 959 811 L
Component: ------------- 006 5550
Serial number: 13102580150623202239
Coding: 020000
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L HW: 6R0 959 812 L
Component: ------------- 006 5550
Serial number: 13202581150812164218
Coding: 020000
1 Fault Found:
01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 45
Mileage: 43031 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.08.04
Time: 20:43:44
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 J HW: 7N0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0105
Revision: -------- Serial number: 28261224902578
Coding: 308101
Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW250GPCS_VW25.rod
VCID: 392C249EA9DBD19FCD7-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J HW: 6R0 959 655 J
Component: VW10AirbagU06 H10 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GW0118WCJ
Coding: 003036
Shop #: WSC 01234 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
VCID: 49CC545EF93B411F5D7-801C
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6RD 920 870 A HW: 6RD 920 870 A
Component: KOMBI H05 0805
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140C01
Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW23.rod
VCID: 47C85266EF2FB76F4B3-8012
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090 D
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0762
Revision: B9082001
Coding: 002304
Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
VCID: 688AB1DA82719817629-803C
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H05 0805
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: 6A8ECBD29CFDAA0774D-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached
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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P HW: 1S2 909 144 P
Component: EPS_ECU H61 1702
Coding: 0001000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014.rod
VCID: 41DC4C7EC10B895F857-8014
No fault code found.
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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 035 680 B HW: 5C0 035 680 B
Component: MU-S-N-ER H22 0252
Serial number: VWZAZ2R8949071
Coding: 02630101FF00000011110001000808001F0100D4002001008F
Shop #: WSC 00046 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW37.rod
VCID: 201AE9FA2A41A057EA9-8074
Data medium:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5NA 919 866 A HW: -----------
Component: ECE2 2018/19 --- 1020
Serial number: --------------------
6 Faults Found:
1555 - Check Software Version Management
B201A 00 [009] - -
[Check software version management]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 45
Mileage: 43031 km
Date: 2019.08.04
Time: 20:43:45
Voltage terminal 30: 13.4 V
Status_Software_Version_Management-module_name:
15360768 - Component Protection
U1101 00 [009] - Active
[Anti-theft protection - component protection active (0xEA6300)]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 45
Mileage: 43031 km
Date: 2019.08.04
Time: 20:43:45
Voltage terminal 30: 13.3 V
7194 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
[Side assist (0x1A) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 45
Mileage: 43031 km
Date: 2019.08.04
Time: 20:43:47
Voltage terminal 30: 13.5 V
BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02
7201 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
U1111 00 [009] - -
[Road sign display (0x21) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 45
Mileage: 43031 km
Date: 2019.08.04
Time: 20:43:47
Voltage terminal 30: 13.5 V
BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02
0001 - Antenna 1 for Radio
B1119 13 [009] - Open Circuit
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 45
Mileage: 43031 km
Date: 2019.08.04
Time: 20:43:45
Voltage terminal 30: 13.5 V
Status of antenna 1 for radio-Antenna current: 0 mA
Status of antenna 1 for radio-Connection between radio and antenna amplifier: Electrical OK
Status of antenna 1 for radio-Connection between antenna amplifier and antenna: Electrical OK
Status of antenna 1 for radio-Reception level antenna 1: 0 dBµV
0003 - Antenna 2 for radio
B111A 13 [009] - Open Circuit
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 45
Mileage: 43031 km
Date: 2019.08.04
Time: 20:43:45
Voltage terminal 30: 13.5 V
Status of antenna 2 for radio-Antenna current: 0 mA
Status of antenna 2 for radio-Connection between radio and antenna amplifier: Electrical OK
Status of antenna 2 for radio-Connection between antenna amplifier and antenna: Electrical OK
Status of antenna 2 for radio-Reception level antenna 2: 0 dBµV
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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502) Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F HW: 5Q0 907 273
Component: RDKBERU30 H04 0011
Serial number: 40000000058983
ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_005.rod
VCID: 372822A69FCFC7EF3B3-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached
End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:13, VBatt start/end: 13.5V/13.5V)-----------
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Excellent! Good job, thank you very much for this report.
It's good to see that everything was meticulously inspected and that no more damaged wires were found. You had a good help for this task.
Now it is safe to drive your 6R.
I see a new address 5F in the autoscan , you must disable addresses 37 and 77 from Gateway installation list.
I guess your license plate lights are still under dimmer switch control...
When possible for you, there is no hurry. my email is waiting to receive your original ECU file.
It's good to see that everything was meticulously inspected and that no more damaged wires were found. You had a good help for this task.
Now it is safe to drive your 6R.
I see a new address 5F in the autoscan , you must disable addresses 37 and 77 from Gateway installation list.
I guess your license plate lights are still under dimmer switch control...
When possible for you, there is no hurry. my email is waiting to receive your original ECU file.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
My pleasure Master.
Yes, Thank you.
If I disable addressess 37 and 77, navigation and compass doesn't work. The gateway also throws error saying gateway module is improperly coded.
Yes Master, I haven't done isolating plate lights from dimmer switch. I will do it shortly.
Sure, I will send you the ECU file soon.ciclo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:05 am When possible for you, there is no hurry. my email is waiting to receive your original ECU file.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Many things to solve in your new 5F unit, I don't know the process, but 37 and 77 will end up being disabled.
New electrical installation for plate lights with BCM Max:
- Forget the installation that I proposed when BCM High was installed in your 6R.
- 6.5m of new 0.5mm2 wire from T73b/7 to power both license plate lights (near to plate lights). You must insulate the original cut wires (very important). It is explained in several installation guides that I made for 6R (IND), ... so the friends that were mentioned can also help you with this.
New electrical installation for plate lights with BCM Max:
- Forget the installation that I proposed when BCM High was installed in your 6R.
- 6.5m of new 0.5mm2 wire from T73b/7 to power both license plate lights (near to plate lights). You must insulate the original cut wires (very important). It is explained in several installation guides that I made for 6R (IND), ... so the friends that were mentioned can also help you with this.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Spoke to seller regarding this issue, he insists on enabling both for proper functioning. I read on drive about this and didn't get any proper solution.
Thanks a lot Master .... I will finish this wiring installation soon.ciclo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:14 am New electrical installation for plate lights with BCM Max:
- Forget the installation that I proposed when BCM High was installed in your 6R.
- 6.5m of new 0.5mm2 wire from T73b/7 to power both license plate lights (near to plate lights). You must insulate the original cut wires (very important). It is explained in several installation guides that I made for 6R (IND), ... so the friends that were mentioned can also help you with this.
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
Update regarding GRA High activation.
I am trying for past several days unsuccessfully to run the eobd2 application on win7. Once it opened but crashed immediately.
I followed the installation instructions carefully, but no success in running the application.
Master, any other way out to make it work?
I am trying for past several days unsuccessfully to run the eobd2 application on win7. Once it opened but crashed immediately.
I followed the installation instructions carefully, but no success in running the application.
Master, any other way out to make it work?
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Re: INSTALLING DIRECT TPMS IN POLOGT 6R RHD IND
The antivirus and firewall must always be disabled (throughout the process), online OFF, from the moment you install the program until you finish reading the ECU file.
Try it with an old laptop.
On the other hand and as a last resort, there are new versions of Galletto and Kess V2 with which you would not have these problems.
Try it with an old laptop.
On the other hand and as a last resort, there are new versions of Galletto and Kess V2 with which you would not have these problems.