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Hi,

In my UP there is already a wire in T73b/11, which is black/gray and I think 1mm2.
EDIT: I *think* this wire comes from SC18A which had a 7.5A fuse. However I removed this fuse during my reverse light problem, and never put it back, and I experienced no problems yet.

By looking at some pictures I made I can see the following wires are not present:
T73b/9
T73b/10
T73b/3
T73a/5

However these wires *are* present:
T73b/5 = Left LED DRL module = black/white
T73b/6 = Right LED DRL module = blacke/green

I don't have any DRL lights in my car so no idea what these wires are used for. Do you have any idea?
But I get your point about T73b/11 if I want to use SCL in the future though.
What way do you prefer?
About dimmer, lets do it first way, so T73b/4 to T17/16 orig wire.
It will always be possible to individualize the license plate light with a new wire, from T73b/7 to the license plate light.
Yes, this wire I have prepared already, I only need to put it in the car.
Everything will be 90€ + shipping. Do you agree?
I agree.


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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Here is a photo of the headlight from our Up:
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Here you can see T73b/68 which was already present:
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Here you can see T73b/11 which was already present:
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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H2Deetoo wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:49 am Hi,

In my UP there is already a wire in T73b/11, which is black/gray and I think 1mm2.
EDIT: I *think* this wire comes from SC18A which had a 7.5A fuse. However I removed this fuse during my reverse light problem, and never put it back, and I experienced no problems yet.
It is a +15 power supply (from SC18) for non-bluemotion models (BCM 087) and automated gearbox, but now you have a BCM 090 and the rules of the game have changed.
For SCLs with BCM 090, that wire must be 1.5mm2 with +30 power protected with a 20A fuse.
The location of this 20A fuse is SC50, but your current installation for front fog lights (without BCM control) with 15A fuse in this location is not useful for the NEW electrical installation of SCLs + front fog lights.



By looking at some pictures I made I can see the following wires are not present:
T73b/9 ... SCL + FFL
T73b/10 ... SCL + FFL
T73b/3 ... DRL
T73a/5 ... DRL

However these wires *are* present:
T73b/5 = Left LED DRL module = black/white ... It is not a precise definition, it refers to the module, which includes the front side lights.
T73b/6 = Right LED DRL module = blacke/green ... It is not a precise definition, it refers to the module, which includes the front side lights.


I don't have any DRL lights in my car so no idea what these wires are used for.
You must have the DRLs, they are mandatory for your car (MY).
T17/3 + SC22 + T3d/1, T3g/1 (installation without BCM control). This installation must be isolated when installing the automatic lighting system, and make a new installation with BCM control, T73b/29 + 3b, 5a to T3d/1, T3g/1.

Do you have any idea?
Yes, in your model year, they are rear turn signals (49) 5 left, 6 right.
The assignment of these two pins is normally for the front side lights on PQ25 models in which it is necessary to differentiate the front side lights from the rear side lights. (in the case of bixenon/led headlights, etc)
By means of BCM coding it is possible to change the assignment of these two pins (5b, 6b). VW's tricks...
:lol:

But I get your point about T73b/11 if I want to use SCL in the future though. ... ;-)

H2Deetoo wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:49 am
What way do you prefer?
About dimmer, lets do it first way, so T73b/4 to T17/16 orig wire.
It will always be possible to individualize the license plate light with a new wire, from T73b/7 to the license plate light.
Yes, this wire I have prepared already, I only need to put it in the car.
Everything will be 90€ + shipping. Do you agree?
I agree.


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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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My car has DRL ?? I seem to learn new stuff every day ^^
I just checked my front lights and there are 3 bulbs:
- turn light bulb
- dipped/main light bulb
- parking light bulb

If I see it correctly this parking light bulb is a dual fillament bulb, so one of its fillaments is for the parking light and the other for the DRL ?
I just checked (by removing SC22) that indeed these bulbs burn brighter when SC22 is present and weaker when SC22 is removed.

But basically the DRL lights seem to have almost the same behaviour as the parking lights, but parking lights won't go off when low beam is active.
If I remember correctly the DRL fillament (brighter) does go off when low beam is active, and this behaviour is mandatory correct?

Okay, more to rewire then!

The rear turn signals can remain on pins T73b/5+6 ?


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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Yes your VW up! Does have DRL as it is mandatory here in the Netherlands. It indeed has a dual filament bulb with parking light and DRL.
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Yes, it is the same bulb with two filaments, for parking/side lights (less bright) and daytime running lights (brighter).

- DRL ON only with the light switch in position 0, or lights turned off with automatic lights (AUTO switch, RLS).
- DRL OFF in any other position of the light switch, or lights turned on with automatic lights.
- Parking/side lights should remain ON whenever the low beam are ON, and should remain OFF with the light switch in position 0.

Yes, wires 5b, 6b will remain in place.
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Looms look very nice!

Can you also add a bridge for J33? I could use it for another + 30a connection point in fuse box.
Of course I'll pay the exstra cost.
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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H2Deetoo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:01 pm Looms look very nice!
sHQ
H2Deetoo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:01 pm
Can you also add a bridge for J33? I could use it for another + 30a connection point in fuse box.
Yes, no problem!

H2Deetoo wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:01 pm Of course I'll pay the exstra cost.
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Same price as before: 90 + shipping cost 12.90 = 102.90€

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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Hello to all,


I've been away for a while due to some health issues.
I've had some major down time, but graduately picking this up again :)

Finally got around to finish the last wires for parking lights control control, and the BCM is now error free :)

Code: Select all

Sunday,11,October,2020,17:27:06:00008
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZAAZED094213   License Plate: 
Mileage: 110980km-68959mi   Repair Order: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: AA-VW12 (1S0)
Scan: 01 02 03 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56 AD

VIN: WVWZZZAAZED094213   Mileage: 110980km-68959miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
AD-Brake Sensors -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB)       Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 020 AN    HW: 04C 907 309 N
   Component: R3 1.0l MPI   H23 9104  
   Revision: UOH23---    
   Coding: 00140012022400000000
   Shop #: WSC 00900 211 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AN 001008
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AM.rod
   VCID: 67DD0D9C9E6DDC727C-8032

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans (J514)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 0CT 927 750 A    HW: 0CT 927 750 A
   Component: SQ100         H10 0013  
   Coding: 010120
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMSQ101011 004010
   ROD: EV_TCMSQ101011_004.rod
   VCID: 4683E018F9A7E57AA7-8012

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 E    HW: 1S0 614 517 E
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H08 0012  
   Serial number: A00IP1V
   Coding: 12BF24718BB602F548FC24F6D1AC404059B200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120 016035
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120.rod
   VCID: 3169A3C4602952C262-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. User\1S0-937-09x-V1.lbl
   Part No SW: 1S0 937 090 F    HW: 1S0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 1MX4 H81 0744  
   Revision: BW081001    Serial number: 0978 215160666
   Coding: 7AB82B0000010000090800442DEBBCC810C0400C60022400200000400100
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 366390D8814775FA37-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS 090608 04  46  0204 
   Coding: 033025

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 591 B    HW: 6R0 959 591 B
   Component: J245 PS72.023  H02 0007 
   Serial number:     WOO26347321     
   Coding: 181100

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 2H0 959 442     HW: 2H0 959 442   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0103 
   Serial number: 29170001883980077353
   Coding: A4FFFF

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Sx-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 919 475 A    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H03 0009  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32901402003642
   Coding: 100101
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000 001008
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000.rod
   VCID: 387F9EE08353838A25-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 959 655 B    HW: 1S0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag00N H03 0006  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003MY006R7KX
   Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000304E
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3D718FF4AC71A6A2F6-8068

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3495RRB400M50S02MPQ5

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3505RRB400850SKCG8FM

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3555NRB401A50RN8EQ2R

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1S0 920 870     HW: 1S0 920 870 
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0010  
   Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 1148010000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A05808
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A05_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6ED378B8B1970D3A3F-803A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1S0 909 901     HW: 1S0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744  
   Revision: BW081001    
   Coding: 001200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70EF66C0A3A31BCA2D-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 1S0 920 870 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0010  
   Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
   ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6ADB74A88D7FE11A63-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R    HW: 6R1 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  311 3111  
   Serial number: CE240147
   Coding: 0007
   Shop #: WSC 31104 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 4683E018F9A7E57AA7-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 035 156 A    HW: 1S0 035 156 A
   Component: Radio         567 5543  
   Revision: AA001001    Serial number: VWZ8Z1P0142252
   Coding: 0000040802
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 29594BA440F92A02AA-807C

1 Fault Found:
00870 - Bass Speaker Front Left (R21) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address AD: Brake Sensors (J939)       Labels: 1S0-907-201.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 907 201 A    HW: 1S0 907 201 A
   Component: CV-SENSOR     H06 0460  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CVSen 001001
   ROD: EV_CVSen.rod
   VCID: 285F4EA053F3130AB5-807C

1 Fault Found:
0004 - Function Restricted due to Insufficient Voltage 
          U1400 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 101
                    Mileage: 110986 km
                    Date: 2020.10.11
                    Time: 00:45:35


End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:40)--------------------------
Next light change will be the front fog lights.

In the mean time I have also added ambient light and flasher(turn) signal wires in both doors, to be able to place side mirrors with flashers and enable background illumination in the door switches.


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Mirrorknob and central switched illuminated already:
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Now waiting for the rest of the parts...


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8)

The window switch backlight is missing, and the central locking switch looks like it came from other worlds ...
We deserve a slight explanation in this regard. :lol:
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Yes, sorry, I only quickly updated this topic last night.
Here follows some more detailed explanation:

After doing some research it seems its fairly easy to fix button illumnination in VW UP and co:
- Mirrorknob -> Just swap it with that of a Polo, same connector so straight fit.
- Central lock switch -> You can use switch of a Transporter T6 7E0962125B, same connector so straight fit.
- Window switches -> Open them, solder missing led and resistor to pcb, and then use switch heads from Golf6 because they allow light through them.

Of course this can only work if you add +12v (either from ignition of from ambient light signal T17/16) to the various switches.
I used the ambient light signal.

The window switches I ordered for Gofl6 haven't arrived yet, that's why they're still dark (but the led is already in place and shining).
The T6 switch had me misguided a little... the connector does fit and it looks simimlar to the UP switch but it just won't fit properply.
Solution is to cut a little bit from the top frame.
It was my first time cutting/milling, so I am pleased with the result, however I'm sure with better equipment I can do a better job.


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Excellent! thank you very much for the explanation / info. 👌
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Finally had some time today, and luckily the weather was perfect also, to reconnect my front and rear fog lights to the BCM (instead of the light switch).
The front fog lights are now under BCM control and this allowed me to enable static corner lights through my fog lights.
Very nice :)
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Basically I did the following according to the info provided on this forum (mainly by ciclo):

Fog left connected to T73b/9 (other fog signal to GND)
Fog right connected to T73b/10 (other fog signal to GND)
Light switch fog front output T17/8 connected to T73a/7

T73b/11 is the power input for the fogs and DRLS which was already present in my car (black/gray 1mm).
I left it as-is for now, but I plan to figure out where it comes from and how it is fused.
If I can't find out, then I will add a new wire from 30+ fused with 15A as recommended.
(Fuse SC50 was removed in the process, but can be used now for the 15A fuse I mentioned here above.)

The rear fog was even simpler to connect:
T17/9 is rear fog output signal is connected to T73b/43 (rear fog input signal).
T73a/6 is rear fog output power which is connected to the original wire which was connected to T17/9 (going to rear fog light).

Next job would be to reconnect the DRLS to the BCM.
After that mean beam using relay and auto light wiring as provided by ciclo!


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