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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:49 am
by H2Deetoo
Hi,
In my UP there is already a wire in T73b/11, which is black/gray and I think 1mm2.
EDIT: I *think* this wire comes from SC18A which had a 7.5A fuse. However I removed this fuse during my reverse light problem, and never put it back, and I experienced no problems yet.
By looking at some pictures I made I can see the following wires are not present:
T73b/9
T73b/10
T73b/3
T73a/5
However these wires *are* present:
T73b/5 = Left LED DRL module = black/white
T73b/6 = Right LED DRL module = blacke/green
I don't have any DRL lights in my car so no idea what these wires are used for. Do you have any idea?
But I get your point about T73b/11 if I want to use SCL in the future though.
What way do you prefer?
About dimmer, lets do it first way, so T73b/4 to T17/16 orig wire.
It will always be possible to individualize the license plate light with a new wire, from T73b/7 to the license plate light.
Yes, this wire I have prepared already, I only need to put it in the car.
Everything will be 90€ + shipping. Do you agree?
I agree.
Best regards,
H2Deetoo
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:07 pm
by H2Deetoo
Here is a photo of the headlight from our Up:
Here you can see T73b/68 which was already present:
Here you can see T73b/11 which was already present:
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:01 am
by ciclo
H2Deetoo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:49 am
Hi,
In my UP there is already a wire in T73b/11, which is black/gray and I think 1mm2.
EDIT: I *think* this wire comes from SC18A which had a 7.5A fuse. However I removed this fuse during my reverse light problem, and never put it back, and I experienced no problems yet.
It is a +15 power supply (from SC18) for non-bluemotion models (BCM 087) and automated gearbox, but now you have a BCM 090 and the rules of the game have changed.
For SCLs with BCM 090, that wire must be 1.5mm2 with +30 power protected with a 20A fuse.
The location of this 20A fuse is SC50, but your current installation for front fog lights (without BCM control) with 15A fuse in this location is not useful for the NEW electrical installation of SCLs + front fog lights.
By looking at some pictures I made I can see the following wires are not present:
T73b/9 ...
SCL + FFL
T73b/10 ...
SCL + FFL
T73b/3 ...
DRL
T73a/5 ...
DRL
However these wires *are* present:
T73b/5 = Left LED DRL module = black/white
... It is not a precise definition, it refers to the module, which includes the front side lights.
T73b/6 = Right LED DRL module = blacke/green
... It is not a precise definition, it refers to the module, which includes the front side lights.
I don't have any DRL lights in my car so no idea what these wires are used for.
You must have the DRLs, they are mandatory for your car (MY).
T17/3 + SC22 + T3d/1, T3g/1 (installation without BCM control). This installation must be isolated when installing the automatic lighting system, and make a new installation with BCM control, T73b/29 + 3b, 5a to T3d/1, T3g/1.
Do you have any idea?
Yes, in your model year, they are rear turn signals (49) 5 left, 6 right.
The assignment of these two pins is normally for the front side lights on PQ25 models in which it is necessary to differentiate the front side lights from the rear side lights. (in the case of bixenon/led headlights, etc)
By means of BCM coding it is possible to change the assignment of these two pins (5b, 6b). VW's tricks...
But I get your point about T73b/11 if I want to use SCL in the future though.
...
H2Deetoo wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:49 am
What way do you prefer?
About dimmer, lets do it first way, so T73b/4 to T17/16 orig wire.
It will always be possible to individualize the license plate light with a new wire, from T73b/7 to the license plate light.
Yes, this wire I have prepared already, I only need to put it in the car.
Everything will be 90€ + shipping. Do you agree?
I agree.
Best regards,
H2Deetoo
Perfect!
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:15 pm
by H2Deetoo
My car has DRL ?? I seem to learn new stuff every day ^^
I just checked my front lights and there are 3 bulbs:
- turn light bulb
- dipped/main light bulb
- parking light bulb
If I see it correctly this parking light bulb is a dual fillament bulb, so one of its fillaments is for the parking light and the other for the DRL ?
I just checked (by removing SC22) that indeed these bulbs burn brighter when SC22 is present and weaker when SC22 is removed.
But basically the DRL lights seem to have almost the same behaviour as the parking lights, but parking lights won't go off when low beam is active.
If I remember correctly the DRL fillament (brighter) does go off when low beam is active, and this behaviour is mandatory correct?
Okay, more to rewire then!
The rear turn signals can remain on pins T73b/5+6 ?
Rgs H2Deetoo
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:39 pm
by iichel
Yes your VW up! Does have DRL as it is mandatory here in the Netherlands. It indeed has a dual filament bulb with parking light and DRL.
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:42 pm
by ciclo
Yes, it is the same bulb with two filaments, for parking/side lights (less bright) and daytime running lights (brighter).
- DRL ON only with the light switch in position 0, or lights turned off with automatic lights (AUTO switch, RLS).
- DRL OFF in any other position of the light switch, or lights turned on with automatic lights.
- Parking/side lights should remain ON whenever the low beam are ON, and should remain OFF with the light switch in position 0.
Yes, wires 5b, 6b will remain in place.
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:45 pm
by ciclo
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:01 pm
by H2Deetoo
Looms look very nice!
Can you also add a bridge for J33? I could use it for another + 30a connection point in fuse box.
Of course I'll pay the exstra cost.
Contact me by PM for payment details.
Rgs H2Deetoo
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:26 am
by ciclo
H2Deetoo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:01 pm
Looms look very nice!
sHQ
H2Deetoo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:01 pm
Can you also add a bridge for J33? I could use it for another + 30a connection point in fuse box.
Yes, no problem!
H2Deetoo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:01 pm
Of course I'll pay the exstra cost.
Contact me by PM for payment details.
Rgs H2Deetoo
Same price as before: 90 +
shipping cost 12.90 =
102.90€
Check your inbox.
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:26 am
by H2Deetoo
Hello to all,
I've been away for a while due to some health issues.
I've had some major down time, but graduately picking this up again
Finally got around to finish the last wires for parking lights control control, and the BCM is now error free
Code: Select all
Sunday,11,October,2020,17:27:06:00008
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWZZZAAZED094213 License Plate:
Mileage: 110980km-68959mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: AA-VW12 (1S0)
Scan: 01 02 03 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56 AD
VIN: WVWZZZAAZED094213 Mileage: 110980km-68959miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
AD-Brake Sensors -- Status: Malfunction 0010
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB) Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
Part No SW: 04C 906 020 AN HW: 04C 907 309 N
Component: R3 1.0l MPI H23 9104
Revision: UOH23---
Coding: 00140012022400000000
Shop #: WSC 00900 211 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AN 001008
ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AM.rod
VCID: 67DD0D9C9E6DDC727C-8032
No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0001
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans (J514) Labels:* None
Part No SW: 0CT 927 750 A HW: 0CT 927 750 A
Component: SQ100 H10 0013
Coding: 010120
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMSQ101011 004010
ROD: EV_TCMSQ101011_004.rod
VCID: 4683E018F9A7E57AA7-8012
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 E HW: 1S0 614 517 E
Component: EBC 460 ESP H08 0012
Serial number: A00IP1V
Coding: 12BF24718BB602F548FC24F6D1AC404059B200
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120 016035
ROD: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120.rod
VCID: 3169A3C4602952C262-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. User\1S0-937-09x-V1.lbl
Part No SW: 1S0 937 090 F HW: 1S0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 1MX4 H81 0744
Revision: BW081001 Serial number: 0978 215160666
Coding: 7AB82B0000010000090800442DEBBCC810C0400C60022400200000400100
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 366390D8814775FA37-8062
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RLS 090608 04 46 0204
Coding: 033025
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 591 B HW: 6R0 959 591 B
Component: J245 PS72.023 H02 0007
Serial number: WOO26347321
Coding: 181100
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 2H0 959 442 HW: 2H0 959 442 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H02 0103
Serial number: 29170001883980077353
Coding: A4FFFF
No fault code found.
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 1Sx-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 1S0 919 475 A HW: 1Q0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 3K H03 0009
Revision: -------- Serial number: 32901402003642
Coding: 100101
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000 001008
ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000.rod
VCID: 387F9EE08353838A25-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 1S0 959 655 B HW: 1S0 959 655 B
Component: VW10Airbag00N H03 0006
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003MY006R7KX
Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000304E
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
VCID: 3D718FF4AC71A6A2F6-8068
Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3495RRB400M50S02MPQ5
Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3505RRB400850SKCG8FM
Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3555NRB401A50RN8EQ2R
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 1S0 920 870 HW: 1S0 920 870
Component: KOMBI H05 0010
Revision: X0005001 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 1148010000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A05808
ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A05_VW12.rod
VCID: 6ED378B8B1970D3A3F-803A
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: None
Part No SW: 1S0 909 901 HW: 1S0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744
Revision: BW081001
Coding: 001200
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 70EF66C0A3A31BCA2D-8024
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 1S0 920 870
Component: IMMO H05 0010
Revision: X0005001 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW12.rod
VCID: 6ADB74A88D7FE11A63-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792) Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R HW: 6R1 909 144 E
Component: EPS_TRW_ALow 311 3111
Serial number: CE240147
Coding: 0007
Shop #: WSC 31104 001 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
VCID: 4683E018F9A7E57AA7-8012
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 1S0 035 156 A HW: 1S0 035 156 A
Component: Radio 567 5543
Revision: AA001001 Serial number: VWZ8Z1P0142252
Coding: 0000040802
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 29594BA440F92A02AA-807C
1 Fault Found:
00870 - Bass Speaker Front Left (R21)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0
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Address AD: Brake Sensors (J939) Labels: 1S0-907-201.clb
Part No SW: 1S0 907 201 A HW: 1S0 907 201 A
Component: CV-SENSOR H06 0460
ASAM Dataset: EV_CVSen 001001
ROD: EV_CVSen.rod
VCID: 285F4EA053F3130AB5-807C
1 Fault Found:
0004 - Function Restricted due to Insufficient Voltage
U1400 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 101
Mileage: 110986 km
Date: 2020.10.11
Time: 00:45:35
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:40)--------------------------
Next light change will be the front fog lights.
In the mean time I have also added ambient light and flasher(turn) signal wires in both doors, to be able to place side mirrors with flashers and enable background illumination in the door switches.
Regards,
H2Deetoo
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:29 am
by H2Deetoo
Mirrorknob and central switched illuminated already:
- 20201022_185603_ambient2.jpg (1.9 MiB) Viewed 1547 times
Now waiting for the rest of the parts...
Rgs H2Deetoo
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:01 am
by ciclo
The window switch backlight is missing, and the central locking switch looks like it came from other worlds ...
We deserve a slight explanation in this regard.
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:06 am
by H2Deetoo
Yes, sorry, I only quickly updated this topic last night.
Here follows some more detailed explanation:
After doing some research it seems its fairly easy to fix button illumnination in VW UP and co:
- Mirrorknob -> Just swap it with that of a Polo, same connector so straight fit.
- Central lock switch -> You can use switch of a Transporter T6 7E0962125B, same connector so straight fit.
- Window switches -> Open them, solder missing led and resistor to pcb, and then use switch heads from Golf6 because they allow light through them.
Of course this can only work if you add +12v (either from ignition of from ambient light signal T17/16) to the various switches.
I used the ambient light signal.
The window switches I ordered for Gofl6 haven't arrived yet, that's why they're still dark (but the led is already in place and shining).
The T6 switch had me misguided a little... the connector does fit and it looks simimlar to the UP switch but it just won't fit properply.
Solution is to cut a little bit from the top frame.
It was my first time cutting/milling, so I am pleased with the result, however I'm sure with better equipment I can do a better job.
Regards,
H2Deetoo
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:17 am
by ciclo
Excellent! thank you very much for the explanation / info.
Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:23 pm
by H2Deetoo
Finally had some time today, and luckily the weather was perfect also, to reconnect my front and rear fog lights to the BCM (instead of the light switch).
The front fog lights are now under BCM control and this allowed me to enable static corner lights through my fog lights.
Very nice
- 20201104_145926.jpg (2.87 MiB) Viewed 1429 times
Basically I did the following according to the info provided on this forum (mainly by ciclo):
Fog left connected to T73b/9 (other fog signal to GND)
Fog right connected to T73b/10 (other fog signal to GND)
Light switch fog front output T17/8 connected to T73a/7
T73b/11 is the power input for the fogs and DRLS which was already present in my car (black/gray 1mm).
I left it as-is for now, but I plan to figure out where it comes from and how it is fused.
If I can't find out, then I will add a new wire from 30+ fused with 15A as recommended.
(Fuse SC50 was removed in the process, but can be used now for the 15A fuse I mentioned here above.)
The rear fog was even simpler to connect:
T17/9 is rear fog output signal is connected to T73b/43 (rear fog input signal).
T73a/6 is rear fog output power which is connected to the original wire which was connected to T17/9 (going to rear fog light).
Next job would be to reconnect the DRLS to the BCM.
After that mean beam using relay and auto light wiring as provided by ciclo!
Best regards,
H2Deetoo