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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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This will be the installation guide that we will follow to install your BCM Max.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing

Please note that the colors of the original wires may differ slightly due to the year of manufacture of your 6R. Also the wires that I'll send you, but I will make it easy for you to identify the wires. What really matters is the slot number in which the wire fits. :wink:

Please also post a sharp and centered image (16: 9 if possible :) ) of the fuse box. Thank you very much!
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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Sir sharing what i have understood and sorry for asking newbie questions. Hope you dont mind. If you dont want to answer the question, I understand. Sorry for wasting you time with question. You helping me means a lot. Thanks in advance.
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Fuse Box. SB39 Right Low Beam
SB59 Left Low Beam
SB34 High Beam

If you dont mind may i know in your wiring adaptations what is the use of SB57a and SB58a, only if you don't mind.
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High Beam when Headlight Switch is in 0 Position and Ignition Switch Turned on
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Low Beam Functioning Properly
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High Beam Functioning Properly When Headlights turned on.

Note - The difference between the High Beam functions as shown in the above pictures are the intensity of light. As far I Understand this might be due to the ballast. The ballast may be connected to the Low Beam and hence when I use the High beam as per Scenario 1 the bulb don't the get power. And after your adaptations related to SB34 this will get solved. Hope I am right.
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DRLs in Light Switch Position 0 and when Ignition Switch is turned on.

Sir I have doubt related to this. As per my understanding with other cars the headlights don't get power until you turn the Light Switch position to Parking or Headlight. I can be wrong about this. But how does the DRLs seem to work even without BCM MAX?
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In this pic as you can see. The upper portion of the DRLs turn on when i turn the light switch to Parking Lights. And The led in DRLs are also used as Left/Right Indicators.

Few more doubts related to Auto Headlights. In the CH/LH is it possible to just turn only the DRLs on. CH/LH will only work in night or do they work in daylight.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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Thank you for the images.
Please, ask all the questions you want to solve any doubts that you have with total freedom. Thank you.

I understand that in the image of your fuse box you have removed the fuse SB34 .. is that correct? (the bolts that hold your fusebox too)

In your 6R (IND) fuses 57 and 58 are those designed to protect the electrical installation of the parking/side lights. In the BCM Max adaptation process it is necessary to slightly modify these electrical lines/wires for the new BCM Max to take control of the parking/side lights.
Currently the control of the parking/side lights on your 6R (IND) is done by the light switch and this is not correct for automatic lights.

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NO. The operation of your HB flash will continue as shown in the images when the light switch is in the 0 position when performing the adaptation of the BCM Max, because your aftermarket headlights are built that way. It is not entirely wrong but it is not the right way.
I imagine (but not absolutely true) that if you keep the light switch in the AUTO position (99% of the time) your HB flash will work in full illumination even though the lights are off ... this is what I meant.

You must bear in mind that your aftermarket headlights are not 100% perfect.
That is, they do not have a 100% original operation.


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About the DRLs and what you have seen in other cars.
Those cars in which their 'DRLs' light up when turning the light switch to a position other than '0' are not legal under any circumstances.
Either because they installed aftermarket headlights with incorrect electrical installation or the headlights are not designed for DRL function even though they have a nice and bright LED module. :lol:

As I told you, the daytime running light function should only work with the light switch in position 0. This is what is legally established in Europe.
I do not know (or rather it does not concern me) what is the legislation for DRLs in the Rest of the World... :)

It is logical that you have doubts about DRLs because many aftermarket headlights have been manufactured incorrectly or they have not been installed correctly. (not your case when it comes to DRLs in your aftermarket headlights)

When you turn the ignition key the electric power reaches the headlight to be used depending on what you decide on the light switch, but in the case of your aftermarket headlights, they take the lead and decide to use that power for your DRLs. :lol:

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CH/LH with BCM Max only work in low light conditions. They can work with headlights or fog lights, with the fog lights the DRLs are also illuminated.

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edit... to clarify ...

You must forget or remove from your mind, that the LED modules or LEDs of your artermarket headlights are only and exclusively DRLs. You must call them LED modules. These leds or leds modules have several functions as I already mentioned in previous post.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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Thanks for the info Ciclo.

Btw I have dropped fire firegrafik and madwarlock messages regarding IC with MFA+ and BCM Max. Awaiting reply.

Regarding the BCM Max can a used one be used in my car?

Please check these two links if possible they are the BCM Max
Are they right for my car.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/1085878821

https://m.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzei ... -223-16738
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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- The best BCM Max is the one that will provide you with firegrafik, due to price and assistance.

- AUTO light switch: 5ND941431B XSH
Do not buy AUTO light switch from Aliexpress that does not have the barcode label. It should have the label you see in the link above.

- LED License plate lights: 35D943021A

- Dimmer: 6R0941333
Try to get this Dimmer in India, it will be much cheaper. In Europe it is very expensive.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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Information that may be useful to you:

Fusebox
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
Large fuses do not have the pink locking mechanism.


https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
You must generate a CSV file of the adaptation channels of your current BCM 087 and send it to my email.
I will provide you my email shortly by private message.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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All your high quality BCM adaptation wiring looms are 100% made, I will show you a picture shortly.
And of course also your wiring for automatic lights.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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Thank you so much Ciclo. Still waiting for a reply from madwarlock and firegrafik.

Is there any other place where I can source BCM Max than please let me know

I will send you The CSV file today evening.

Once again thanks.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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I'll direct firegrafik by email to take a look around here.
Maybe madwarlock won't be able to answer you until the beginning of next month. I suppose that patil will answer you on his topic.

Your wiring looms:
BCM Max adaptation + wiring for automatic lights.
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Installation guide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
If you follow the installation guide it is impossible to go wrong due to the length of the wires and the size of the contact terminals.
I recommend downloading the PDF file and viewing it with a personal computer👨‍🎓, I do not recommend viewing it with the smartphone🐒.



Prices: (euros)

99 = Wiring for automatic lights. (Original relays)
50 = BCM Max adaptation.
25 = Shipping cost (ES->IND)


Total to pay:

99 + 50 + 25 = 174 € (euros)

Paypal fees, Tax, packaging and technical support, etc. included.


Correos Spain 2020:
Price list for international shipping, certified, with tracking number:
https://imgur.com/xe8BURt
Web (pg 05): https://www.correos.es/ss/Satellite?blo ... inary=true

Note about shipping:
I recently sent a package to Patil (IND), it took 10 days from Spain to India to reach customs (delivery point).
Customs held the package for 20 days, opened the package :?, and subsequently charged Patil a small fee (15€). On other occasions (without COVID protection measures) the package was delivered between 15 and 20 days at the labeled address without major inconvenience.


Shortly I will send you a private message with my email so that you can contact me and explain to you the payment and shipping processes and everything you need to know.
Please check your inbox. Thank you.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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Hey Ciclo, need your help.

This car i bought Last Year October so if the problem mentioned below cannot be rectified i will the Authorize Service Centre guys to rectify in warranty before i proceed with BCM Max adaptation as after that they are not gonna entertain such kind of problems.

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6RU 937 087 S HW: 6RU 937 087 S
Component: BCM IM H+4 H43 0471
Revision: BZ043001 Serial number: 4201 256190258
Coding: 3AB02BFF48B30600013800007CAF969000C0000F608E0100220000000A00
Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
VCID: 72EB6FCFADAF28DF9F-8026

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 C Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
Component: RLS 050 50 0106
Coding: 066800

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 EF HW: 6R0 959 802 EF Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 023 2551
Serial number: 13202848190716085938
Coding: 350000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 ED HW: 6R0 959 801 ED Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 023 2551
Serial number: 13102849190711213513
Coding: 040000

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 HW: 6C0 959 442
Component: E221__MFL-TAT H06 0023
Serial number: 1961915005001392AB2B
Coding: 240000

Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 S HW: 6R0 959 811 S
Component: J388__TSG_HL 022 1552
Serial number: 13102728190711175909
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 S HW: 6R0 959 812 S
Component: J389__TSG_HR 022 1552
Serial number: 13102729190711052611
Coding: 000000

1 Fault Found:
01520 - Rain and Light Recognition Sensor (G397)
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 16233 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.09.03
Time: 15:43:14

I have tried clearing the DTCs but its of no use. One more thing when i use the rain sensing wiper, it doesnt increase the speed of the wipers as per the rain or speed of car no matter whatever sensitivity setting you keep on the stalk.

One more thing should i buy used IC with MFA+? Can the odo be reset to zero?

Thanks.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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My guess is your RLS is defective and I'd recommend to change it.

You can buy a used MFA+ instrument cluster, no problem. If you can find someone to adapt it for your car, they are also able to reset the mileage.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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I had changed the long coding of RLS to Rain closing Windows. But at that time i forgot to backup the stock coding. Can you help me that. Dont want the service centre guys to give me excuses
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Probably something like 0228DD or 0228EE but I don't think they'll use this against you.
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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adityagttsi wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:16 pm Hey Ciclo, need your help.
Listen to Daddy ... :lol:

In the Debug folder of the VCDS program you have a file called CodingLog, ... send it to my email ... :wink:
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Re: Polo 6R GT TSI 1.2 BCM Max + Auto Headlight + HBA

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By the way, who coded your BCM when you installed the aftermarket headlights? (To iichel, maybe I'm the only one who sees a very strange BCM coding ... :wink:)

Aditya, transmitting the information I have requested takes 0.1 seconds.
I asked you some questions that you haven't answered or that take too long to answer, I am one of those who does not ask again, or does not explain again what has already been explained.
If you want everything to work perfectly in your 6R you must open me your heart ... :)
I leave it in your hands ...


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If I were you, I would try to buy the NEW IC that I indicated to you in Patil's thread, your 6R 2019 deserves it.
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