Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 255bhp NA

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by daz16v » Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:59 pm

Loving the new cam cover.relly sets off the rest of the bay 8)
Gonna head up to the bodyshop after work on friday and see what they say
thanks again :D

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:46 am

Cheers Daz 8)
Nice one mate im in work on Friday so might see your car there on the way home possibly 8)

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by Trottagti » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:31 pm

Where's your cams at and 3" bro lol? Hurry up....!

I sit on the for sale but of ctr forum and want like all off it ha.... Lovely buddyclub manifold on there atm..... Hmm...!

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:12 am

Hey mate :)

Still saving at the moment 8) although my mate has kind of persuaded me to go for stage 2 cams rather than drop ins.
Reason being is to get some head work done too, looking at a port & polish with stage 2 cams with retainers and valve springs.

It wont make big big gains but we could be talking 275bhp with a rev limit of 9200rpm :twisted:
Torque would be a flat line of around 175 lbs ft and maybe 180 peak so very tasty figures but its even more money to spend if I go down that route

How's yours coming along mate?
Did you go for that Buddyclub manifold? A lad I know has a Spoon Catback mated to a Buddyclub header on his DC5 and it sounds epic!

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by Trottagti » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:56 pm

Update ya slag?

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:02 pm

Not updated this for ages :shock: cheers for the bump Craig :lol:

Well loads has happened since the last time I updated this page so I better start adding what's been done

Here goes...

I bought a new exhaust system back in March from a company called Solid Fabrications, it's a 3" bore custom made system with a Twin 3" rolled tips backbox and large centre silencer. This was fitted to replace my Spoon Catback which has a 2.38" bore (ID)
Here are a few pics before it was fitted to the car

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Here she is being fitted by my mate Gaz (car was disgustingly dirty before fitting :lol:)
Comparison pic too of both B-Pipes (Spoon vs 3" Solid Fab)

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The plan was then to get the map tweaked but unfortunately that never happened, I waited a little while longer for that but all will be revealed further down the page :wink:. Next up was a little weight loss for the car which was a hard decision to make but I bit the bullet and went for it. Rear Seats, door cards, plastic trim, spare wheel, parcel shelf, boot plastics, tool kit, seat belts etc were all removed leaving the back of the car very bare but roomy.
All that weighed in at 52KG's and I also weighed in the OEM front seats which are 19KG's per piece.

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I had also been busy buying a few goodies for the gearbox, firstly a Spoon 5.10 Final drive and Exedy Stage 1 Clutch Kit

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To be continued

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by alexperkins » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:24 pm

Looking good ben. keen to see the next update :)

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:59 pm

Continued....

A couple of months passed and I saved up a bit of dollar for my trip to Grinspeed in Leyland.
Purchased the neccesary parts which included the following

- M Factory Limited Slip Differential
- NTN Differential Bearings
- M Factory Carbon Lined Syncro's (Gears 1-6)
- Tegiwa Harness Bar including Rod ends & Bolts
- RDX 440cc Fuel Injectors (Honda)

As well as the Exedy Stage 1 Clutch Kit and Spoon 5.10 Final Drive

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Next up was a set of new tyres as I had shredded my 2 front Parada Spec 2's :)
I went for a larger profile tyre this time for a litte extra comfort (getting old now) and went for Michelins HP Primacys all round (215/45/R17)

I got them fitted at a local garage and then headed to Grinspeed in Leyland to get all my gearbox parts fitted.

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Rotrex Beast!
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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:01 pm

More continued :)

New Throttle Body as my old one was sticking (due to it's all aluminium design)

Few Pics and some of a recent run around North Wales

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I went on a North Wales meet recently with a couple of lads off here and just look at what we ran into on the Evo Triangle :cool: it was a stunning day and meeting the NSX & Supra boys & girls was an added bonus

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:07 pm

I got the grill sprayed up recently as it was looking a little tired

Primed followed by a couple of coats of matte black :D
I just need a new Honda badge for the front now because the one I took off was battered, I have also decided to leave the Type R badge off for now because I think I prefer it without it.

I think it looks great if I'm honest, the metallic grey & NHB was just not working for me and the now matte black grill suits the front end a lot more

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Got the J's racing oil cap on too :wink:
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Well my J's racing cap didn't last long :lol:

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It came with a dodgy looking seal which I fitted because I assumed it would need it (never assume). Anyway on the way back home from work after a spirited drive I hear something pinging off the car hitting several other items in the process, at the time it literally just sounded like an empty can hitting the underside of the car. I was cornering quite hard at the time so slowed right down and drove the remaining mile & half home very slowly as a precaution. Checked the car over when I got back home and then popped the hood to find the cap missing :wink:

The Mugen cap which I now have back on has a built in rubber o-ring at the base of the threads so it forms & tight seal when fitted. The J's on the other hand does not have this built in seal but came with a separate black thick seal (over 2mm thick) which I fitted and it did fit tight but in hindsight it was probably just tight against the rubber rather than the threads.

Anyway I ordered a couple more parts last week for the CTR.
PLM Race header and Progress 27mm FARB so I snapped both of those up :) I will be picking them up from TDI on August 7th so i'm looking forward to that. Plan is to get the header ceramic coated and then look at changing my intake for something fed from the front bumper.

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J's racing throttle body was fitted recently (Thanks Gaz) and it feels excellent on the road, really smooth as it should be!
S90 TB & Adapter were removed, I had to use a standard Tegiwa RBC adapter with a thermal gasket but it's done the job nicely.
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My car is having the TDI cams fitted on the 7th along with my 410cc RDX Injectors so it should hopefully make some decent figures.
Plan after that is to then buy an Oddysey lightweight battery and get started with the velocity stack :cool:

PML header will replace the Piper once it's been ceramic coated and sometime later this year I will look at valve springs and a custom ported RRC

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:09 pm

I was at TDI North yesterday getting a set of their cams fitted along with a set of 440cc Honda Injectors.

I predicted it would make around 255-260+bhp so I was pleased to see it make 255.6bhp.
The one thing letting it down though was the torque and TDI believe this is due to the design of the Piper Header.
I think I have reached the limitations of it now since adding the 3” exhaust and TDI cams.

Previously the car made 166lbs ft (225NM) but since the cams have been fitted the torque has actually decreased by 3lbs ft and my once smooth torque curve is no more. It should be around the 175/180 mark in the mid range so something is badly letting it down and all fingers point to the header. Thankfully I already have a PML header so the plan is to get that wrapped/ceramic coated then head back to TDI for a tweak to see if the losses of torque can be resolved.

My Tegiwa fuel rail was cracked too so that had to be replace with an AEM Rail (thankfully TDI had one in stock).
Tegiwa have agreed to credit me for the rail so it's all good.

It was a hot day yesterday so a couple of cars on the dyno had produced less power than previously including one of the EP3 Civic Cup cars which made 245bhp yesterday (previously 259bhp).

I think a map tweak with the new header might see me break the 260 mark, especially as temperature can make up 5-6bhp. Anyway a few pics from the day

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Engine Spec –
- Tegiwa Carbon Airbox
- 3” Solid Fabrications Catback
- Piper 4-2-1 Header with Piper De-cat
- Ported RBC Intake Manifold
- J’s Racing Throttle Body 65mm
- TDI North Camshafts
- AEM Fuel Rail
- 440cc Fuel Injectors
- Hondata K100 mapped at TDI – 255.6bhp

Right another Update UK Polo Peeps 8)

Couple of snaps of PLM header which I bought from Phil (PulpmelonR), I also had his 27mm progress front ARB [smilie=karls_thumb.gif]

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Snap of the New AEM rail supplied by TDI North after the Tegiwa Rail...Failed
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It kind of just broke :shock:
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Fair play to Tegiwa they will be issuing a credit note for the rail so I can't complain

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:11 pm

Most Recent Update..... Yesterday 26/08/2013

Decided to give the car a good clean this weekend as the weather was decent

I gave the bumper & bonnet some attention a couple of days earlier by sorting out a few hundred stone chips :lol:

Anyway what I used to clean it

Dodo Juice Sour Power Shampoo
2 Bucket Method with Grit Guards & Wool Wash Mit
Meguiars Bug & Tar Remover - Used on bonnet, front & rear bumper, sills & doors
Poorboys Blackhole Glaze - 2 coats
Dodo Juice Purple Haze Wax - 3 coats to bonnet & bumper, 2 coats to body
Demon Shine Wheel Cleaner
Poorboys wheel sealant
Meguiars tyre dresser
Turtle Wax Safe Cut - for the headlights

Results
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I need to invest in a decent machine polisher at some point as there as some swirl marks on the paintwork and next time I will clay bar it all over (didn't have one this time)

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - New Cam Cover Page 48!

Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:12 pm

alexperkins wrote:Looking good ben. keen to see the next update :)
Cheers Alex :D hope you like the new updates

Current Spec List - August 2013

Engine/Exhaust
- Tegiwa M Carbon Airbox
- Solid Fabrications 3" Catback Exhaust System
- Piper 4-2-1 Exhaust Header
- Piper De-Cat Pipe (2.38")
- O2 Simulator
- RBC Ported Intake Manifold (Custom bored to 70mm)
- J's Racing Enlarged Throttle Body
- AEM Fuel Rail
- 440cc RDX Fuel Injectors (Honda)
- 25mm Metal Breather Filter (Rocker Cover)
- TDI North Stage 1 Camshafts (OEM Springs & Retainers)
- Hondata K100 mapped by Paul West at TDI North (255.6bhp & 225NM of Torque)

Transmission
- M Factory Helical Limited Slip Differential
- NTN Japanese Differential Bearings
- Spoon 5.10 Final Drive
- M Factory (1-4) Carbon Lined Syncro's
- Syncrotech (5-6) Carbon Lined Syncro's
- Exedy Stage 1 Cluch Kit
- Exedy OEM Lightened Flywheel
- M Factory Gearbox Magnetic Plug
- Box Work all carried out by Stevie at Grinspeed

Suspension & Handling
- Eibach Pro Kit Lowering Springs (-20mm Front/-15mm Rear) on OEM Shocks
- Eibach Rear Adjustable Camber Arms
- Eibach Front Camber Bolts
- J's Racing Front Strutbrace
- J' Racing C Pillar Brace (Rear)
- Tegiwa Lowe Control Arms with Energy Bushes
- Tegiwa Rear Strutbrace (White)
- Tegiwa Lower Tie Bar
- JDM Rear Anti Roll Bar 24mm including bushes
- Progress 27mm Front Anti Roll Bar (Not yet fitted)
- ABP Motorsport Fast Road Set-up & Geo

Wheels, Tyres & Brakes
- OEM 17" Enkie Alloy Wheels Powder Coated Championship White
- 215/45/R17 Michelin HP Primacy Tyres fitted all round
- Brembo Drilled & Grooved Discs all round
- Ferodo DS2500 Front Brake Pads
- EBC Yellow Stuff Rear Brake Pads
- Tegiwa Brake Stopper Kit

Exterior
- Pre-Facelift Rear Lights (Red)
- 6000K HID Kit (Dipped Beams)
- Private Plate - K20 BEJ
- Honda/Mugen Front & Rear Plate Surrounds
- Pressed Front & Rear Plates
- Matte Black Sprayed OEM Grill (De-Badged)
- Tegiwa Carbon Fibre Air Scoop
- JDM Aerial (OEM)
- JDM Rear Plate Holder (Not yet fitted)

Interior (or lack of it)
- M Factory Gearknob
- Mugen Foot Pedals
- JDM Coin Holder
- JDM Red Access Mats (Front & Rear)
- Tegiwa Harness Bar
- Stripped Rear (Including Rear Seats, Belts, Door Cards, Parcel Shelf, Rear Wheel, Tool Kit, Rear Trim & Sound Proofing)
- Foam Insulation Tiles (Yet to be fitted)

Various Bits & Bobs
- Spoon K20 Cam Cover
- Tegiwa Intake Hose (Red)
- Tegiwa Breather Hose (Red)
- Mugen Radiator Cap (Genuine)
- Mugen Oil Cap (Copy)
- Carbon Fibre Plug Cover
- Tegiwa Red Anodized Battery Tie
- Spoon Reservoir Socks x 3
- Stainless Steel K20 Cam Cover Washers
- Stainless Steel Dome Nuts
- Solid Tegiwa Shifter Bushes

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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 255bhp NA

Post by Trottagti » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:24 pm

Looking cheeky mate, updates are awsome, always enjoy reading through them.

Hopefully the new header will solve a few things, the toda header I put a deposit on should have been yours mate, that's what ya want..... Should be the best torque maker. Also the rbc can limit torque but give good bhp gains. The skunk 2 one is meant to be more torque friendly.

Velocity stack next bro?

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Post by 6N2 GTI 00 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:42 pm

Trottagti wrote:Looking cheeky mate, updates are awsome, always enjoy reading through them.

Hopefully the new header will solve a few things, the toda header I put a deposit on should have been yours mate, that's what ya want..... Should be the best torque maker. Also the rbc can limit torque but give good bhp gains. The skunk 2 one is meant to be more torque friendly.

Velocity stack next bro?
Cheers fella :)

Toda is class mate but the PLM is basically the same so in terms of gains it would do just aswell, possibly better :D
The PLM is a copy of the SRS US Header which has been making huge gains in the states so it should be good for mine, it's more the mid range losses that I want correcting so the peak power shouldn't be too different.

Yeah RBC is pretty poor low down, makes up for it at 7K but it's worse than the OE Intake manifold in the lower revs.
Skunk Intake is a lovely bit of kit, I wish I would have bought that one in the first place to be honest but kind of rushed into getting the RBC haha

Best overall intake is the RRC but to fit that on an EP3 you have to lose the bonnet catch and run bonnet pins which I can't be bothered with.

Yeah 3" velocity stack intake next fella and a odysey race battery, not too concerned about gains I just want it to sound insane with an open stack haha

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