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Re: Cornering lights polo gt bluemotion

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ciclo wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:59 pm I explain you, so that a BCM PQ25 can manage the DRLs (in any lamp) it's necessary that it receives the signal for its operation from the light switch, this is through the wire that arrives from the light switch to PIN 29 BCM white connector 'B'.

Your BCM doesn't have that PIN. You can check it in this image :arrow: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zBcAAOSw ... -l1600.jpg

Therefore it isn't possible in your 6R.
Thanks. As Fog lights/cornering lights is managed by bcm, I thought that I can enable bit 2 from byte 23 on bcm (Cornering lights as DRL)
Thanks anyway
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Re: Cornering lights polo gt bluemotion

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Hi all.

I have a Polo 6R 60 plate with standard fog lights.

Can I enable static cornering lights through VCDS?

Or do I need fog lights who have cornering lights?

In the latter option do I need anything extra (wiring, sensor etc) other than coding?

Thanks a lot
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Re: Cornering lights polo gt bluemotion

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Hello zach138, to be able to tell you exactly it is necessary that you post an Autoscan of the units of your 6R.
(I think it is necessary that you have 10 posts in the forum to be able to post it)

You don't need to change the fog lights, maybe you need some new wires, and some other part (depends on your Autoscan).
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Thanks a lot ciclo - below is my full autoscan as requested.

Yesterday I tried to activate the cornering fog lights by activating bit 6 of byte 12 on the 09.Cent Electr. System with no luck as I get a bulb dtc light on the dashboard.

Any further advice will be much appreciated.

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Wednesday,16,September,2020,20:08:13:46225
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY056090   License Plate: 
Mileage: 131600km-81772mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY056090   Mileage: 131600km-81772miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYB)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 BC    HW: 03L 906 023 D
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H13 6909  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114014000500080000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023BC 003005
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AH_003.rod
   VCID: 6889BA3D92F8925BFA3-803C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 1000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AJ    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 230228E3417200B8C42514EB82D100821300
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 00000
   VCID: 06559485B86C642B68F-8052

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 J    HW: 6R0 820 045 J
   Component: Climatic       25 0660  
   Revision: 00 11 25    
   VCID: 35372349954A3FB3B15-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 H    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0230  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0345 196101793
   Coding: 25B029BF08E12400922000003D2B0CD00000410F60060000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00631 210 91765
   VCID: 42DD4895D484980B047-8016

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 R    HW: 6R0 959 802 R  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 0912 
   Serial number: KU0-KU030.06.1011032
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 T    HW: 6R0 959 801 T  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 0912 
   Serial number: KU0-KU001.07.1011838
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9004 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag00A H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX004AVS$
   Coding: 003041
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4ACD60B5EC34404BCC7-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3572SRB40000C31D41F7

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3582SRB40000C291419/

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB40696Q5E6BGS 

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405D6R0C291RE

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 961 F    HW: 6R0 920 961 F
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0304  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 440A00
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 392F2F79B9D2DBD355D-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0230  
   Coding: 002100
   Shop #: WSC 00631 210 91765
   VCID: 70B9D25DAAA85A9BA23-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0304  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC0358CF4A04BEC7-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C    HW: 5N0 035 342 C
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7668265792    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 270BF9015FE65D23339-8072

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11230
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F3B11217E560563FB9-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         541 5516  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4J6278413
   Coding: 16000400040005
   Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
   VCID: 46D55485F8ACA42B28F-8012

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:31, VBatt start/end: 13.9V/13.8V)-----------  License Plate: 
Mileage: 131600km-81772mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZBY056090   Mileage: 131600km-81772miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYB)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 023 BC    HW: 03L 906 023 D
   Component: 1,6l R4 CR td H13 6909  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00114014000500080000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023BC 003005
   ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023AH_003.rod
   VCID: 6889BA3D92F8925BFA3-803C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 1000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 AJ    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 230228E3417200B8C42514EB82D100821300
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 00000
   VCID: 06559485B86C642B68F-8052

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 6R0-820-045-9AP.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 J    HW: 6R0 820 045 J
   Component: Climatic       25 0660  
   Revision: 00 11 25    
   VCID: 35372349954A3FB3B15-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 H    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0230  
   Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0345 196101793
   Coding: 25B029BF08E12400922000003D2B0CD00000410F60060000200000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00631 210 91765
   VCID: 42DD4895D484980B047-8016

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 R    HW: 6R0 959 802 R  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  006 0912 
   Serial number: KU0-KU030.06.1011032
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 T    HW: 6R0 959 801 T  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  006 0912 
   Serial number: KU0-KU001.07.1011838
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9004 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag00A H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX004AVS$
   Coding: 003041
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 4ACD60B5EC34404BCC7-801E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3572SRB40000C31D41F7

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3582SRB40000C291419/

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3515RRB40696Q5E6BGS 

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3525RRB405D6R0C291RE

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 961 F    HW: 6R0 920 961 F
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0304  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 440A00
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 392F2F79B9D2DBD355D-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0230  
   Coding: 002100
   Shop #: WSC 00631 210 91765
   VCID: 70B9D25DAAA85A9BA23-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H04 0304  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC0358CF4A04BEC7-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 C    HW: 5N0 035 342 C
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0111  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7668265792    
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 270BF9015FE65D23339-8072

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11230
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F3B11217E560563FB9-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         541 5516  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4J6278413
   Coding: 16000400040005
   Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
   VCID: 46D55485F8ACA42B28F-8012

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:31, VBatt start/end: 13.9V/13.8V)-----------
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Re: Cornering lights polo gt bluemotion

Post by ciclo »

Your 6R can handle the static cornering lights but you will probably need to install new power wires for the fog lights (isolating the current ones).

In the 6R, the SCLs are managed by the BCM depending on the signals received by the steering ring with G85 angle sensor.

Your 6R has ESP therefore it has G85.
Your BCM has the necessary pins to send the signals to the fog lights.

Quick check to see if your 6R has the right wires:
- If the fuse box has fuse 54, your 6R does not have SCLs on the fog lights. (Only foglights)
- If the fuse box has fuse 57, it is possible that it has SCLs in the foglights except some exceptions.

It is a relatively easy retrofit in case you have to install the new wires.
The set of wires is sold at kufatec, eBay, etc. (wiring for 6R fog lights under BCM control)

The BCM pins involved and required are:
T73a / 7 signal received from the light switch to activate the fog lights.
T73b / 9 and 10 to send the signals to the fog lights, both for fog lights and SCLs.
T73b / 11 +30 power received from fuse 57.


This is a diagram that I made a long time ago for the same circumstance at hand.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... sp=sharing
Keep in mind that you have to physically check all the pins-wires on your 6R.
The original wires, if fuse 54, must be isolated even if they are in any of the indicated positions. (except ground wires)


VCDS

BCM
Byte12 Bit6
Byte21 Bit2 and Bit3

Some adaptations in the BCM for SCLs are possible. Check out the first page of my 6R thread to find out more. (there are several links followed where I show the topic of automatic lights)



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The BCM can handle SCLs, but without the proper wires it doesn't matter how many times you try to code it.
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Re: Cornering lights polo gt bluemotion

Post by zach138 »

Thanks a lot ciclo. Your help is much appreciated.

I will start by checking the fuses and take it from there.

I will definitely come back for further advice if needed.
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