Almost certainly a tie in with the ACC sensor, standard on GTI+, optional on other trims. Or possibly (but less likely) picked up by proximity changes on the front parking sensors if you have them.
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Yes that is my experience in the manual Vs DSG. Stop Start with DSG is deffo made more unusable by the front assist sensors. its dam annoying that I coast to a near stop then the auto Stop start kicks in even of you have not quite stopped, then the car in front rolls forward 1 mtr and your engine restarts. It happens a lot when you are stationary, stop start has knocked the engine off. the car in front rolls forward a foot because it human nature to wish yourself into a gap that is not achievable, my car fires up then the car In front sits there for the next 5 mins waiting for a gap that appears only once a year. Yes so VW need to detach stop start from the front assist sensors. which are std on the R llne, the SEL, and GTI and I think of you opt for ACC.monkeyhanger wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:07 amI'd dusagree with DSG stop-start vs a manual. Manual is so much more useable. THere is no stop-start kicking in when you come to a stop unless you want it to. If you come to a stop and know those lights are about to change, or you're ready to exploit a gap at a busy roundabout, you keep the clutch dipped. If it's giing to be a wait, you knock it into neutral and bring the clutch up. The car fires up again when you dip your clutch to get ready to selecg a gear. Much better, no messing about with soft stops and hoping that stop-start doesn't kick in anyway.
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I dislike stop start not having an option to set your preferred default.
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All very good having the stop/start working, but have VW up graded the starter motor to cope with the extra work it has to do?
If your a person who changes his/her car every 3 years, it don't matter a bit, as it's the next person who might have to replace the starter motor.
If your a person who keeps their new motor for 5 or 6 years, like myself, I'll disable the stop/start every time.
On the Nissan Note forum, members there have started complaining about the cost of their batteries, (those with the E12 that have the stop/start system) and it's been explained to them that, due to the extra drain caused by the stop/start they have to have a different type of battery, not just more amp hour type.
If your a person who changes his/her car every 3 years, it don't matter a bit, as it's the next person who might have to replace the starter motor.
If your a person who keeps their new motor for 5 or 6 years, like myself, I'll disable the stop/start every time.
On the Nissan Note forum, members there have started complaining about the cost of their batteries, (those with the E12 that have the stop/start system) and it's been explained to them that, due to the extra drain caused by the stop/start they have to have a different type of battery, not just more amp hour type.
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^ Apparently they (and other marques) have thought of that and supplied more robust starter motors - it was mentioned in the VW literature when stop-start became the norm for all, not just the blue-motion models - somewhere at the back end of 2012 when the MK7 Golf first became available and all marques official combined mpg jumped about 20%.
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To be honest, a 20% saving for me doesn't even come into the equation, last year my Note diesel covered about 4,500 miles, not even that, I always put in Shell Nitro diesel, which is the dearest they do, OK, petrol engines may not do as many MPG as diesel, but last year I only visited a garage 10 times, and no I don't run the fuel level down to the red line.
I will still disable to stop/start, even though VW have beefed up the starter motor, I've been in my mates wife's car with a stop/start and even as a passenger when we stop, I worry it may fail to start when required to set off.
I'd worry more about it starting, than my wiper blades juddering, (that's when I get it).
I will still disable to stop/start, even though VW have beefed up the starter motor, I've been in my mates wife's car with a stop/start and even as a passenger when we stop, I worry it may fail to start when required to set off.
I'd worry more about it starting, than my wiper blades juddering, (that's when I get it).
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That's a 20% test cycle saving (as the old 11 minute test cycle had around a quarter of the time with the car at a standstill), real world savings around 1%. Unless you are perpetually snarled in static traffic.
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I'll bet you will reverse your statement if your wipers judder, it is sooooooo annoying!!!silverhairs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:30 pm
I'd worry more about it starting, than my wiper blades juddering, (that's when I get it).