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some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

Post by H2Deetoo »

Hi guys,


After reading many topic threads (mainly on this forum) about installing a MFSW on VW UP (PQ25 platform, same as Polo), I got the parts and did the retrofit.
Now after the retrofit there are 3 errors in the BCM remaining:

03431 - Activation of Left Parking Light
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 119
Mileage: 104232 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.14.12
Time: 14:47:58

03432 - Activation of Right Parking Light
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 119
Mileage: 104232 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.14.12
Time: 14:47:57

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 119
Mileage: 104232 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.14.12
Time: 14:51:44

Okay, I understand the new BCM is controlling the lights itself now whereas the old BCM did not (and the lights were controlled by the light switch directly).
So is there a way to disable the different light checks in the BCM using some coding?
I see many bits of the BCM are not documented yet by Rosstech.

And what I find funny is that only low beam right is reported as fault, but low beam left seems to have no problems?

My current BCM coding is:
Software Coding: 7AB82B0000010000080006042E68BCC804C0400D60060000200000400100

If anyone here could help or share some info it would be appreciated.


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H2Deetoo

PS. With the new BCM in place I am thinking of rerouting the wires of the lights so they can be controlled by the BCM as intended, even with automatic light switch.
I see user ciclo has sold these looms+parts in the past, are they still available from some source?
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Did you change any of the wiring? Or just the bcm and swapped over the coding
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Sorry for being not clear, but I thought it would have been obvious I did not change any wiring.
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

Post by exantas »

I believe you are hitting the error described here
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do-y ... ost3833881

Its from a different forum but its a very useful post.

If it is the same issue, there is no coding solution - or at least they didn't find one.
One solution for the first two error is https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do-y ... ost3934465

It would be very easy to see if the cables described exist in your light switch now.
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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VW up! Wiring diagrams. Download!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UlhlRe ... sp=sharing

Related info (similar)
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=71456#p535585

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=71456&start=15#p536112


I no longer manufacture/sell these wiring looms, I no longer do personalized studies, I'm sincerely sorry.

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If you install a PQ25 BCM High (not Max) manufactured from 2015/6 (better a 2018/9 model if possible) everything should work correctly for the new MFSW models, including the buttons backlight.
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Thanks for the info exantas. Ofcourse I already found and read that topic, but I was silently hoping it still would be possible to disable that parking light check with some hidden coding :oops:

Btw. My T17 lightswitch does already have wires in 13 and 14 and for sure I do not have parking lights nor DRL lights...

Would there exist a bit in coding to disable light check for low beam? To get rid of this error:
00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)
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Thanks for your reply ciclo, it's too bad you don't produce those looms anymore :(

I don't mind having some obvious errors in my bcm unit because these lights aren't connected, however I'm still struggling with this one:
00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)

First of all diagnostigs for low beam is turned off:
Lamp Diagnostics for Low Beam active (byte 16 bit 4)

And secondly why does only onlyl the right lamp raise an error and not the left?!
Could I do something with byte 18, like disable all light outputs?
(Remember I am still using the original T17 light switch, so nothing is controlled by my bcm at the moment).


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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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It does not matter all the coding attempts (in any Byte) you make to eliminate the faults in M31 or M29 (it's not shown) with the new BCM Max installed, these faults will be present if the suitable wires for BCM Max are not installed.
The fault in M29 (left low beam) is not shown because your new BCM Max 1S0 doesn't know (literally) what is happening (wires - BCM coding). I guess this happens with the BCM Max 1S0 ... ... (with 7H0 and 7E0 this doesn't happen, fault in M29 also it's shown).

If you want to be helped correctly with your VW up! the exact date of manufacture is necessary --/--/-- (or VIN), and two Autoscan, original and current.
As you can see in the wiring diagrams (erWin) there are updates every year, that is, a 2013 model is not the same as a 2014 model.
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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I don't know the exact manufactur date, but here is the VIN : WVWZZZAAZED094213

Log with original 1S0937087D bcm:

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Wednesday,09,October,2019,16:41:37:00008
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZAAZED094213   License Plate: 
Mileage: 103360km-64224mi   Repair Order: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: AA-VW12 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56 AD

VIN: WVWZZZAAZED094213   Mileage: 103360km-64224miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
AD-Brake Sensors -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB)       Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 020 AN    HW: 04C 907 309 N
   Component: R3 1.0l MPI   H23 9104  
   Revision: UOH23---    
   Coding: 00140012022400000000
   Shop #: WSC 00900 211 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AN 001008
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AN.rod
   VCID: 67DD0D9C9E6DDC7E2B-8032

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans (J514)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 0CT 927 750 A    HW: 0CT 927 750 A
   Component: SQ100         H10 0013  
   Coding: 010120
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMSQ101011 004010
   ROD: EV_TCMSQ101011_004.rod
   VCID: 4683E018F9A7E576F0-8012

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 E    HW: 1S0 614 517 E
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H08 0012  
   Serial number: A00IP1V
   Coding: 12BF24718BB602F548FC24F6D1AC404059B200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120 016035
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120.rod
   VCID: 3169A3C4602952CE35-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1S0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 937 087 D    HW: 1S0 937 087 D
   Component: PQ25 BCM      H30 0561  
   Revision: -9------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 7AB82B0000010000080006042E68BCC804C0400D60060000200000400100
   Shop #: WSC 04388 002 104857
   VCID: 3A7B84E8B55F919684-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 591 B    HW: 6R0 959 591 B
   Component: J245 PS72.023  H02 0007 
   Serial number:     WOO26347321     
   Coding: 181100

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Sx-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 919 475 A    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H03 0009  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32901402003642
   Coding: 100101
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000 001008
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000.rod
   VCID: 387F9EE08353838672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 959 655 B    HW: 1S0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag00N H03 0006  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003MY006R7KX
   Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000304E
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 3D718FF4AC71A6AEA1-8068

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3495RRB400M50S02MPQ5

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3505RRB400850SKCG8FM

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3555NRB401A50RN8EQ2R

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 920 870     HW: 1S0 920 870 
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0010  
   Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 114A010000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A05808
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A05_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6ED378B8B1970D3668-803A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 1S0 937 087 D
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H30 0561  
   Revision: -9------    
   Coding: 001200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70EF66C0A3A31BC67A-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 1S0 920 870 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0010  
   Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
   ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW01.rod
   VCID: 6ADB74A88D7FE11634-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R    HW: 6R1 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  311 3111  
   Serial number: CE240147
   Coding: 0007
   Shop #: WSC 31104 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 4683E018F9A7E576F0-8012

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 035 156 A    HW: 1S0 035 156 A
   Component: Radio         567 5543  
   Revision: AA001001    Serial number: VWZ8Z1P0142252
   Coding: 0000040802
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 29594BA440F92A0EFD-807C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address AD: Brake Sensors (J939)       Labels: 1S0-907-201.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 907 201 A    HW: 1S0 907 201 A
   Component: CV-SENSOR     H06 0460  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CVSen 001001
   ROD: EV_CVSen.rod
   VCID: 285F4EA053F31306E2-807C

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:06)--------------------------


Here is a log with the new bcm 1S0937090F L

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Monday,28,October,2019,19:59:54:00008
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZAAZED094213   License Plate: 
Mileage: 104300km-64809mi   Repair Order: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: AA-VW12 (1S0)
Scan: 01 02 03 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 56 AD

VIN: WVWZZZAAZED094213   Mileage: 104300km-64809miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
AD-Brake Sensors -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB)       Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 020 AN    HW: 04C 907 309 N
   Component: R3 1.0l MPI   H23 9104  
   Revision: UOH23---    
   Coding: 00140012022400000000
   Shop #: WSC 00900 211 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AN 001008
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AN.rod
   VCID: 67DD0D9C9E6DDC7E2B-8032

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans (J514)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 0CT 927 750 A    HW: 0CT 927 750 A
   Component: SQ100         H10 0013  
   Coding: 010120
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMSQ101011 004010
   ROD: EV_TCMSQ101011_004.rod
   VCID: 4683E018F9A7E576F0-8012

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 E    HW: 1S0 614 517 E
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H08 0012  
   Serial number: A00IP1V
   Coding: 12BF24718BB602F548FC24F6D1AC404059B200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120 016035
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120.rod
   VCID: 3169A3C4602952CE35-8064

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1S0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 937 090 F    HW: 1S0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 1MX4 H81 0744  
   Revision: BW081001    Serial number: 0978 215160666
   Coding: 7AB82B0000010000080006042E68BCC804C0400D60060000200000400100
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 366390D8814775F660-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 591 B    HW: 6R0 959 591 B
   Component: J245 PS72.023  H02 0007 
   Serial number:     WOO26347321     
   Coding: 181100

3 Faults Found:
03431 - Activation of Left Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 124
                    Mileage: 104301 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.10.28
                    Time: 20:43:21

03432 - Activation of Right Parking Light 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 124
                    Mileage: 104301 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.10.28
                    Time: 20:43:21

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 124
                    Mileage: 104301 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.10.28
                    Time: 20:41:42


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Sx-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 919 475 A    HW: 1Q0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H03 0009  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32901402003642
   Coding: 100101
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000 001008
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW1200000.rod
   VCID: 387F9EE08353838672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 959 655 B    HW: 1S0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag00N H03 0006  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003MY006R7KX
   Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000304E
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 3D718FF4AC71A6AEA1-8068

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3495RRB400M50S02MPQ5

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3505RRB400850SKCG8FM

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3555NRB401A50RN8EQ2R

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 920 870     HW: 1S0 920 870 
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0010  
   Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 1148010000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A05808
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A05_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6ED378B8B1970D3668-803A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1S0 909 901     HW: 1S0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744  
   Revision: BW081001    
   Coding: 001200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70EF66C0A3A31BC67A-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 1S0 920 870 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0010  
   Revision: X0005001    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
   ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW01.rod
   VCID: 6ADB74A88D7FE11634-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R    HW: 6R1 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  311 3111  
   Serial number: CE240147
   Coding: 0007
   Shop #: WSC 31104 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 4683E018F9A7E576F0-8012

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 035 156 A    HW: 1S0 035 156 A
   Component: Radio         567 5543  
   Revision: AA001001    Serial number: VWZ8Z1P0142252
   Coding: 0000040802
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 29594BA440F92A0EFD-807C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address AD: Brake Sensors (J939)       Labels: 1S0-907-201.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 907 201 A    HW: 1S0 907 201 A
   Component: CV-SENSOR     H06 0460  
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CVSen 001001
   ROD: EV_CVSen.rod
   VCID: 285F4EA053F31306E2-807C

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:16)--------------------------

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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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As your VW up! does not have RLS and for this reason it is not necessary to make an electrical installation for automatic lights/BCM Max, with small changes in the original wiring (adding wires) the faults detected by Autoscan are solved for your new BCM Max installation, that is, Autoscan = all OK.

Take pictures from your fuse box (like the one you've seen in the PDF for danikd Citigo), light switch connector (x2) and relay carrier.
I will tell you exactly what you have to do. It is quite simple.
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Here are the pictures from my lightswitch, the rest will follow later.
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Picture of fuse box, which resides at the bottom of the relay carrier bord (bcm on the back):
20191102_155958.jpg


I cannot make a picture of the relay carrier bord because it is behind the dashboard, and it is not easy to remove a panel. It is one big construction :(
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Please, remove this cover and take a picture of the fuses, the empty slots are more important than fuses.

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For example: (from my 6R)
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Here it is:
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Re: some errors after upgrading 1S0937087D bcm to 1S0937090F

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Remove battery ground cable. Add the following wires.

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New BCM coding

7AB82B0000010000080006042E6BBCC804C0400D60060400200000400100

Note: If you get an error/fault in the autoscan due to the license plate light after you have installed the wires and with the new BCM coding, must install a new wire from T73b/7 BCM connector to T2/2 license plate light connector (remove/isolate T2/2 original wire).
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