Auto headlight retrofit. VW Transporter. T5 (2010-2015)

bropasiek · Post by **bropasiek** » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:41 am

hi,
I checked wiring
t73a/62 goes to sb28 and there is a flow - checked by multimeter
t73a/5 and t73b/3 - should they go directly or can they go through SC12 and SC14 ?
I checked voltage T14/12 connector there is always around 12v ( both connectors )
I aslo checked T14/10 and its act funny, when light switch on 0 or AUTO, when its not dark - lights not activated, there is also around 12v, but when I change position to side lights or main beam its drops to less than 2v, which I belive is not enough for them to lit
I did little test, disconnected t73b/5 and supplied with 9v, DRL did light up dimmed
I think there is some issue with t73b/5 and t73b/6
Still cant connect numer plate wire as everything stop working
I took complete headlights from the van where they were factory fitted and they worked before I removed them
Any chance they might be wrong ?

BCM scan
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H78 0725
Revision: B9078001 Serial number: 0671 353141285
Coding: A0A03DBA4EE1241393284E716EEB8E554280662F60857841320000020000
Shop #: WSC 46629 001 104857
VCID: 2F3B1062F7137D23FB9-807A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 280311 05 54 0403
Coding: 03302E

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 C HW: 7E0 959 801 C Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 3311
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 050000

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 C HW: 7E0 959 802 C Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 3311
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 040000

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7E1 951 171
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0104
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7E1 951 171
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0104
Coding: 000000

Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 442 HW: 7E0 959 442 Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H02 0103
Serial number: 29170000324710067062
Coding: B0FFFF

9 Faults Found:
03435 - Terminal 30 for Interior Light and Parking Light
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 163
Mileage: 232379 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.02.06
Time: 09:13:14

03301 - Response Closing Status of Drivers Door
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 162
Mileage: 232333 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.02.05
Time: 23:25:28

03302 - Response Closing Status of Passenger's Door
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 162
Mileage: 232356 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.02.05
Time: 23:49:16

03303 - Response Closing Status of Rear Left Door
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 9
Reset counter: 122
Mileage: 232333 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.02.05
Time: 20:12:24

03304 - Response Closing Status of Rear Right Door
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 9
Reset counter: 122
Mileage: 232333 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.02.05
Time: 20:12:24

03396 - Supply voltage terminal 30 for central locking
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 163
Mileage: 232379 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.02.06
Time: 09:13:14

00920 - Heated Outside Mirrors; Driver Side (Z4) / Passenger Side (Z5)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 163
Mileage: 232379 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.02.06
Time: 09:13:16

03591 - Control Circuit for Horn
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 163
Mileage: 232379 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.02.06
Time: 09:13:17

01516 - Terminal 30; Left
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 163
Mileage: 232379 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.02.06
Time: 09:13:15

Post by **ciclo** » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:33 pm

According to the BCM scan, the problem is in how the BCM receives the power and how it supplies it for the different functions as far as the lights are concerned.

Take a look at:
T73a / 62
T73a / 66
T73b / 68

... or the problem it is the BCM parameterization that I mentioned earlier.

I suppose the license plate light problem will be solved when you install the new Dimmer, etc... It all depends on how you have made and installed the BCM adaptation wiring (3

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70736&start=45#p528735).

bropasiek · Post by **bropasiek** » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:23 pm

What is T73a/66? Did you mean 63 ?
All that errors came up after I disconnected plug from T73b to check wiring connections
They all clear now
Only dtc I am getting are from door contacts, I think micro switches are gone, all except passenger showing constantly closed
Dimmer should arrive on Friday then I will have a look
I might try buying a another BCM, any advice which one to look for? Any particular?

All connections are exactly as in your guide, so it looks like BCM causing it

bropasiek · Post by **bropasiek** » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:47 pm

All connectios are made exactly as in your guide, so if it worked for other people, should work for me as well
Looks like tham BCM causing some issues
I dont have any idea about BCM parametrization

I am quite new to VW diagnostic, used to have only Mercs, but fell in love with T5

I will buy VAG Can Pro and another BCM, if I will find one in decent price

Does it have to be 90D or 90B will do as well ?

Really sorry for bothering you, but you seen state of my interior, not very nice when all things flying aroun

bropasiek · Post by **bropasiek** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:52 am

Hi Ciclo,
One thing confuse me
Wires from T73a/5 and T73b/3 needs to go directly to T14 headlight connector or can they go through fuse holder C
SC12 and SC14 ?
I ran them through the fuses, can that be a case ?

I bought VCP and 3 more BCM for tests
090
090B
090D

I am complete novice to VCP, so we will see how it goes

Post by **ciclo** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:27 am

cicloblue ...

bropasiek wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:23 pm What is T73a/66? Did you mean 63 ? No, I mean the T73a/66. It is the power supply for the interior lights and terminal 58. (see elsa or erwin diagrams)
All that errors came up after I disconnected plug from T73b to check wiring connections ......that's why I said 'according to BCM scan' ...
They all clear now
Only dtc I am getting are from door contacts, I think micro switches are gone, all except passenger showing constantly closed
Dimmer should arrive on Friday then I will have a look
I might try buying a another BCM, any advice which one to look for? Any particular? ...7E0937090D (2018)... contact firegrafic, he can help you get a new one for around 100 euros.

All connections are exactly as in your guide, so it looks like BCM causing it do this https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing upload it to a server for file hosting and get the link to post it here ... I'll take a look.

bropasiek wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:47 pm All connectios are made exactly as in your guide, so if it worked for other people, should work for me as well ... sure.
Looks like tham BCM causing some issues
I dont have any idea about BCM parametrization

I am quite new to VW diagnostic, used to have only Mercs, but fell in love with T5

I will buy VAG Can Pro and another BCM, if I will find one in decent price

Does it have to be 90D or 90B will do as well ? 7H0937090B 7E0937090B ... any 7E0 OK! , 7H0 only D model.

Really sorry for bothering you, but you seen state of my interior, not very nice when all things flying aroun no problem for that.

bropasiek wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:52 am Hi Ciclo,
One thing confuse me
Wires from T73a/5 and T73b/3 needs to go directly to T14 headlight connector or can they go through fuse holder C
SC12 and SC14 ?
I ran them through the fuses, can that be a case ?
Without fuses it is as indicated for original electrical installations (erWin), with fuses it is an adaptation, both methods are correct. No problem.

I bought VCP and 3 more BCM for tests ........ this is a BCMs party ...
090
090B
090D

I am complete novice to VCP, so we will see how it goes ... to parameterize or edit a single value of the BCM PQ25 with VCP it is necessary to extract all the parameters to a text file (this is done by the VCP), edit the value of the parameter, and reload the text file.
I recommend doing an editing test with one of the worst BCMs you have, and if everything goes well you do it with the BCM that is finally installed.

bropasiek · Post by **bropasiek** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:07 am

Hi Ciclo,
All stuff should be with me by the end of the week, I am off to Greece for a weekend, so when I am back with „charged batteries” I will start uneven battle with BCMs and VCP

Many thanks for your help
Can I donate you or something for your help,
really appreciated

Will keep you posted and hopefully post some photos with working headlights and T6 interior

Thanks again
Lucas

bropasiek · Post by **bropasiek** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:54 am

Before I start my adventure with VCP, any idea which parameter I need to change to change voltage output on T73b/5 and 6 ?
I think this is a main issue, when main beam is on it drops to 2v, in my opinion it should be around 8v
It is 12v for a full brightness, 2v is definitely not enough for LED to lit

Post by **ciclo** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:42 am

bropasiek wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:07 am Many thanks for your help
Can I donate you or something for your help,
really appreciated

Will keep you posted and hopefully post some photos with working headlights and T6 interior

The best contribution / donation you can make is to post / share in this thread the results of your retrofits with 'many images'.
That extra effort to take pictures while you work is the best donation for me.

bropasiek wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:54 am Before I start my adventure with VCP, any idea which parameter I need to change to change voltage output on T73b/5 and 6 ?
I think this is a main issue, when main beam is on it drops to 2v, in my opinion it should be around 8v
It is 12v for a full brightness, 2v is definitely not enough for LED to lit

PWM Value with POS/TFL lights and activited Pos-lights

20 ... (Pos = side/parking)
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=70736&start=270#p575528

Post by **ciclo** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:23 am

Exoticdevil wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:02 am Hello everyone!
I have updated BCM til 090D max. Retrofited auto-headligts, cruise, MFSW and rain sensor. Biiig thanks to ciclo and Adam87 for sharing their knowlage.
And almost everything is working
I have learn a lot by doing this. Crazy feeling to think about T5 wiring everythere i go
My next step is refrofiting xenon lights. Originaly car came with H7 headlights. Selfleveling and headwasher kits is on its way from Kufatec.
By searching for new bumper for fitting headwasher nozzels i have found the guy parting out T6. AND now i just wonder, if it's dig difference T6 xenon/led headlights wiring from T5.1 xenons? Decided to go all in on this project

Hi Exoticdevil,

There are several differences, both in the wiring of the headlights T14 connectors (xenon vs led) and in the management-coding / wiring of the high and low beams between the Stalk and the BCM.
The wiring of the headlamp leveling system is identical (similar).

Hmm ... for example, the T6 wiring / system can handle T5 xenon headlights, but the T5 wiring / system cannot manage LED headlights.
For the LED headlights you will need a BCM 7E0.

A very clear example is that Adam87 installed in his T5 the T6 system for the management of lights (due to the HBA).

The best thing is that you get the original diagrams (erWin) and take a look at it.

reido80 · Post by **reido80** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:35 pm

Hi ciclo, hope you are well, Many thanks for all your help, The lights, rain sensors, Wipers etc all look to work well.

Here we have the latest scan, The van is still sat in the same place it has been for 2 months or so due to the Clutch slave cylinder giving in so I have not given anything a proper test run out in the real world. Clutch change is booked in for next month when It will be treated to a mild sachs upgrade

I have taken the opportunity while it is off the road and the seat/carpets are out to upgrade the "camping" electrics, adding power points to the rear, rear speakers, leisure power to the dash area for stereo and interior lighting.

I have still to install the level sensors as in all the chaos with bits everywhere I misplaced my wheel locking key!
I am on the lookout for some plastic conduit for the level sensor wires and I think the easiest place to get it all is a car breakers so this is on my to do list (which is thankfully getting smaller

)

The sensors will physically be installed when it is in having the clutch done.

Randomly I had a few error codes to do with CAN gateway and incorrect coding but stupidly I did not save them and I cant remember now what it is I changed to get them away.

Scan below......

Code: Select all

Monday,21,September,2020,13:16:00:03258
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZDH0   License Plate: FINAL (ISH) TEST
Mileage: 130870km-81318mi   Repair Order: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 18 19 22 25 55 56 69 0B

VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZDH0   Mileage: 130870km-81318miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CFCA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 019 GK    HW: 03L 907 309 L
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H37 3566  
   Revision: 22H37---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0119401A233600080000
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019GK 003003
   ROD: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019GK_003.rod
   VCID: 7AADF0A04C5F927B1C7-802E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 J    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0109  
   Revision: 00H43001    
   Coding: 108764AD19A6089626A99878BA6610
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 49152
   VCID: 392F2FAC0959596355D-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
   Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BG    HW: 7E5 907 047 BG
   Component: Climatic-T5   H20 0505  
   Revision: 00001010    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
   ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
   VCID: 75B7E39C6541FD03715-8020

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0725  
   Revision: B9074001    Serial number: 0671 186141457
   Coding: B8B07DB84E61241193284EF16CAB9751F28066FF40857841320000020000
   Shop #: WSC 02739 790 12345
   VCID: 2F3B11F4C71D87D3FB9-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 201114 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0630AD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 C    HW: 7E0 959 801 C  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 050000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 C    HW: 7E0 959 802 C  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 050000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7E1 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7E1 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013 
   Serial number: 0390005             
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 J    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0105  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28261217200384
   Coding: 118001
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K_001_VN75.rod
   VCID: 392F2FAC09D9596355D-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag009 H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00CRH9K
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
   Shop #: WSC 02754 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 3537239C25C1BD03B15-8060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7E0 920 970 G    HW: 7E0 920 970 G
   Component: KOMBI         H06 0605  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 160E01
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2E050CF0C0978EDBF0F-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
   Part No: 7E0 815 071 B
   Component: J737__Standheizung  0605  
   Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 09019275F00000
   Coding: 0000031
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 2411EED892DB348B16B-8070

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0725  
   Revision: B9074001    
   Coding: 042300
   Shop #: WSC 02739 790 12345
   VCID: 70B9D2881AA3D82BA23-8024

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 09N 907 554 B    HW: 09N 907 554 B
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      6008  
   Coding: 0000007
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 372B2994334D4F13A39-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H06 0605  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC0E03CFF22FBEC7-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0222000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77ABE9947F4D8F13639-8022

2 Faults Found:
5275220 - Headlight 
          C107E 54 [137] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 234
                    Mileage: 130877 km
                    Date: 2020.09.21
                    Time: 23:09:29

13705473 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [137] - Missing Message
          [Timeout mNiveau_2]
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 234
                    Mileage: 130877 km
                    Date: 2020.09.21
                    Time: 23:09:28


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 G    HW: 1K0 907 383 G
   Component: Anhaenger     H10 0110  
   Revision: 3B001001    Serial number: 00008030224120
   Coding: 410D000101000000
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 313F178CD1299123EDD-8064

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 02:19, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/11.6V. VIgn 11.5V)-----

bropasiek · Post by **bropasiek** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:08 pm

Hi Ciclo,
I manage to get DRLs working with main beam with PWM value 40 is about right, with value of 20 as you sugested they not going on
Still struggle with number plate lights, when they connected ilumination and position lights staying on even after locking a van ( at least number plates light coming up, shame it does not switch off

)
I think I know what is an issue with high beam, I have 7e0 stalks, so will have to remove wires from T41 and follow a guide for Adam
Any advice ?
Very slowly I getting use to VCP

Post by **ciclo** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:55 am

reido80 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:35 pm Hi ciclo, hope you are well, Many thanks for all your help, The lights, rain sensors, Wipers etc all look to work well.

Here we have the latest scan, The van is still sat in the same place it has been for 2 months or so due to the Clutch slave cylinder giving in so I have not given anything a proper test run out in the real world. Clutch change is booked in for next month when It will be treated to a mild sachs upgrade

I have taken the opportunity while it is off the road and the seat/carpets are out to upgrade the "camping" electrics, adding power points to the rear, rear speakers, leisure power to the dash area for stereo and interior lighting.

I have still to install the level sensors as in all the chaos with bits everywhere I misplaced my wheel locking key!
I am on the lookout for some plastic conduit for the level sensor wires and I think the easiest place to get it all is a car breakers so this is on my to do list (which is thankfully getting smaller

)

The sensors will physically be installed when it is in having the clutch done.

Randomly I had a few error codes to do with CAN gateway and incorrect coding but stupidly I did not save them and I cant remember now what it is I changed to get them away.

Scan below......

Code: Select all

Monday,21,September,2020,13:16:00:03258
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZDH0   License Plate: FINAL (ISH) TEST
Mileage: 130870km-81318mi   Repair Order: 



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 18 19 22 25 55 56 69 0B

VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZDH0   Mileage: 130870km-81318miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFCA)       Labels:. 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 019 GK    HW: 03L 907 309 L
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H37 3566  
   Revision: 22H37---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0119401A233600080000
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019GK 003003
   ROD: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906019GK_003.rod
   VCID: 7AADF0A04C5F927B1C7-802E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 J    HW: 7E0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP MK25A XT  H43 0109  
   Revision: 00H43001    
   Coding: 108764AD19A6089626A99878BA6610
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 49152
   VCID: 392F2FAC0959596355D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
   Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 BG    HW: 7E5 907 047 BG
   Component: Climatic-T5   H20 0505  
   Revision: 00001010    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
   ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
   VCID: 75B7E39C6541FD03715-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 D    HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0725  
   Revision: B9074001    Serial number: 0671 186141457
   Coding: B8B07DB84E61241193284EF16CAB9751F28066FF40857841320000020000
   Shop #: WSC 02739 790 12345
   VCID: 2F3B11F4C71D87D3FB9-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 201114 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0630AD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 C    HW: 7E0 959 801 C  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 050000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 C    HW: 7E0 959 802 C  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 3313 
   Serial number: --------------------
   Coding: 050000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7E1 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7E1 951 172 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013 
   Serial number: 0390005             
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 J    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0105  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28261217200384
   Coding: 118001
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K_001_VN75.rod
   VCID: 392F2FAC09D9596355D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag009 H07 0013  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL00CRH9K
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003039
   Shop #: WSC 02754 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 3537239C25C1BD03B15-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7E0 920 970 G    HW: 7E0 920 970 G
   Component: KOMBI         H06 0605  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 160E01
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2E050CF0C0978EDBF0F-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
   Part No: 7E0 815 071 B
   Component: J737__Standheizung  0605  
   Revision: 00085000    Serial number: 09019275F00000
   Coding: 0000031
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 2411EED892DB348B16B-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0725  
   Revision: B9074001    
   Coding: 042300
   Shop #: WSC 02739 790 12345
   VCID: 70B9D2881AA3D82BA23-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 09N 907 554 B    HW: 09N 907 554 B
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      6008  
   Coding: 0000007
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 372B2994334D4F13A39-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H06 0605  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC0E03CFF22FBEC7-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0222000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77ABE9947F4D8F13639-8022

2 Faults Found:
5275220 - Headlight 
          C107E 54 [137] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 234
                    Mileage: 130877 km
                    Date: 2020.09.21
                    Time: 23:09:29

13705473 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [137] - Missing Message
          [Timeout mNiveau_2]
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 234
                    Mileage: 130877 km
                    Date: 2020.09.21
                    Time: 23:09:28


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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 G    HW: 1K0 907 383 G
   Component: Anhaenger     H10 0110  
   Revision: 3B001001    Serial number: 00008030224120
   Coding: 410D000101000000
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 313F178CD1299123EDD-8064

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 02:19, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/11.6V. VIgn 11.5V)-----

Hi reido80, thank you very much for the report.

Comparing the last two VCDS autoscan that you have posted in this thread, I see some changes you have made to the BCM coding to get rid of those error codes you mention.
I recommend the winmerge program for quick and easy file comparisons, it's very useful in these upgrade processes.

bropasiek wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:08 pm Hi Ciclo,
I manage to get DRLs working with main beam with PWM value 40 is about right, with value of 20 as you sugested they not going on
Still struggle with number plate lights, when they connected ilumination and position lights staying on even after locking a van ( at least number plates light coming up, shame it does not switch off )
I think I know what is an issue with high beam, I have 7e0 stalks, so will have to remove wires from T41 and follow a guide for Adam
Any advice ?
Very slowly I getting use to VCP

Hi bropasiek, good to know that the PWM value for parking/side lights is 40 for T5.1 bixenon headlights. Perfect!

Please tell me exactly how you connected the license plate lights.
Look at the following picture and please tell me you weren't wrong, T17/16 vs T17/17.
https://servimg.com/view/18943939/1095
The original wires are identical, but it is not the same signal.
I don't think it's a problem with the Stalks, it's more likely a wiring fault.

As an example, stalks 7E0 (T6) and BCM Max should be wired as follows ...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... luc3M/view ... (https://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?p=503577#p503577)
taking into account that this is a diagram for the 6R and its peculiarities (fuse box), for 6R Europe the fuses 34 and 36 are assigned to the High beams.
I recommend looking at the original diagrams for T6 (erwin, elsawin).

VCDS
Once wired, it is necessary to activate Byte28 Bit3 and deactivate Byte23 Bit0 in the BCM, and assign the value 1 to channel 54.

bropasiek · Post by **bropasiek** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:25 pm

Hi Ciclo,

Old T17/17 wire is directly connected to T10/10
Old T17/16 wire goes to T10/3 connected with T73a/45 and T73b/7 ( number plate light output )

I might try to connect T73b/7 direct to number plate lights, for now it goes through relay switched on by main beam
My battery was going flat all the time, so its temporary solution

Originally I had different stalks, but with new BCM steering angle was playing up
Old ones were old type, that stayed on once pushed back to activate high beam
New ones activate it by pulse ( obviously you know that )
For some reason BCM don’t recognise that pulse
Should I find different stalks ?
For now I have wires ready for HBA, but still looking for mirror with camera from T6

I dont have any more ideas whats wrong

Post by **ciclo** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:22 pm

bropasiek wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:25 pm Hi Ciclo,

Old T17/17 wire is directly connected to T10/10
Old T17/16 wire goes to T10/3 connected with T73a/45 and T73b/7 ( number plate light output )

Hi bropasiek,
Well, there are some secrets that I have never explained on the forum.

Listens

:
- Do not invent anything new other than what is explained in my instructions in this thread.
- The wire that goes from T10/3 to T73a/45 must be a totally new wire, and it must never be connected to any other wire/cable, .... isolate the original wire as indicated in my instructions ...
What if we imagine that the original T73a/45 wire has one or two diodes sandwiched in that line ... when non-MAX BCMs are factory installed...

The interior lights are powered by the T73b/4 through the dimmer (as explained).

Together with T73b/7 these are signals 58 electronically managed in different ways according to need.

bropasiek wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:25 pm I might try to connect T73b/7 direct to number plate lights, for now it goes through relay switched on by main beam
My battery was going flat all the time, so its temporary solution

It is what you should have done from the beginning, otherwise you bypass the license plate lights diagnostics.

bropasiek wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:25 pm Originally I had different stalks, but with new BCM steering angle was playing up
Old ones were old type, that stayed on once pushed back to activate high beam
New ones activate it by pulse ( obviously you know that )
For some reason BCM don’t recognise that pulse
Should I find different stalks ?
For now I have wires ready for HBA, but still looking for mirror with camera from T6

I dont have any more ideas whats wrong

The new 7E0 Stalks (1x -with return spring-) need to be wired to the BCM and coded as I explained to you in my previous post.

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