Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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We retrofitted a 2015 6C with the Sports Select function so that the car can enjoy the dual suspension function.
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Everything went relatively smooth till the end where we encountered problem with the control of the Sport Select button.

Hoping to find someone who can help here.

Details on the retrofitting process can be found http://jimmy-cbx.blogspot.sg/2017/05/po ... assis.html

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Monday,08,May,2017,17:50:50:24118
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: cbx auto
Workshop Code: 305 91777 091777

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFU049836   License Plate: POLO LEOW 1,2 DCC AFTER ERROR
Mileage: 25628km-15924mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 6R (6C0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 14 15 17 19 44 5F

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFU049836   Mileage: 25628km-15924miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CJZC)       Labels: 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 027 BB    HW: 04E 907 309 AF
   Component: 1.2l R4 TSI   H21 8228  
   Revision: R5H21---    
   Coding: 01250012230411080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027BB 001006
   ROD: EV_ECM12TFS01104E906027BB.rod
   VCID: 65CB5EAE643FF0697A-8030

   CAN Converter 01: 

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0CW-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0CW 300 046 G    HW: 0AM 927 769 K
   Component: GSG DQ200-MQB H43 5206  
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501409196312
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ200021.rod
   VCID: 3E79D1C2A12983B1DB-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 379     HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0002  
   Serial number: 08506045140922
   Coding: 23DD2885892733C9111C106C0057C41491CC88080005C7090000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100015
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
   VCID: 6CDD2B8A87D5C12125-8038

1 Faults Found:

1219 - Coding invalid 
          U10DA 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 155
                    Mileage: 25628 km
                    Date: 2017.05.07
                    Time: 17:39:07


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6C0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 044 A    HW: 6C0 907 044 A
   Component: Climatronic   H02 0104  
   Serial number:  1409101A-0029
   Coding: 200020011001100001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaValeoPQ26 003001
   ROD: EV_ACClimaValeoPQ26_VW26.rod
   VCID: 224105B23591C751DF-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 6C0-937-089-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 937 089 A    HW: 6C0 937 089 
   Component: BCM PQ26 Hi4R H06 0047  
   Serial number: 001028001732
   Coding: 03001840425300DB4B844000402703881000580253010000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 91777 305 91777
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 004003
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_004_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2E59E182714973314B-807A

   Drivers Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 CH    HW: 6R0 959 801 CF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 9610 
   Serial number: KU0KU025091442688034
   Coding: 1400A1

   Front Passengers Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 CF    HW: 6R0 959 802 CH  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 9610 
   Serial number: KU0KU015091442581170
   Coding: 0400A1

   Relative Air Humidity Interior Sender: 

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 N    HW: 6R0 959 812 N
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  003 8610 
   Serial number: KU0KU016091442593683
   Coding: 1400A0

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 N    HW: 6R0 959 811 N
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  003 8610 
   Serial number: KU0KU020101442934135
   Coding: 0400A0

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: 6C0-907-359.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 359     HW: 6C0 907 359 
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H04 0007  
   Serial number: 13061602000033
   Coding: 80
   Shop #: WSC 91777 305 91777
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SwitcDampeContiTemic 001004
   ROD: EV_SwitcDampeContiTemic.rod
   VCID: 6AD12D928D21DF1157-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 6C0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 B    HW: 6C0 959 655 B
   Component: VW20Airbag01D 001 0330  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003LN000ZYH4
   Coding: 88CCC000000000005C0000CA008800000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 3261F5F2657157D12F-8066

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 821 408 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3575H009F1627C1271FT
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 821 408 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3585H00BF1628C01A09R
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 709 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3517A00A31730323909X
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 709 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3527A00A5176F6017144
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 920 730 A    HW: 6C0 920 730 A
   Component: KOMBI         110 0260  
   Coding: 2724090820000008000808000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009036
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 1F470C4606E3EAB9F0-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 909 901     HW: 6C0 937 089 
   Component: GW MQB A0     H06 0047  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 001028001732
   Coding: 030100046F0A560071000000000000010001000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 001001
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_VW26.rod
   VCID: 65CB5EAE643FF0697A-8030

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442     HW: 6C0 959 442   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
   Serial number: 2561420373502242AB1B
   Coding: 240000

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181 A    HW: 6C0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223 
   Serial number: 51281E41142821930261

1 Fault Found:
131699 - Control unit for information electronics 1 
          U1054 00 [009] - No Communication
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 155
                    Mileage: 25628 km
                    Date: 2017.05.07
                    Time: 00:12:49

                    Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 13.1 V
                    Terminal 15: On


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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels: 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C2 909 144 M    HW: 6C2 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  322 3211  
   Serial number: CE9O0276
   Coding: 0007
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 336FF0F69A6B5ED924-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr.
Cannot be reached

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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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Always good to see well known people joining the gang. Welcome.

Could you show us a recent vcds autoscan with the 'dcc' module in there?
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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C PoloQuote iichel
by iichel » Tue May 23, 2017 2:13 pm

Always good to see well known people joining the gang. Welcome.....
Hello ! Thanks for the wide open arm welcome !

Thanks for the compliment. I am a humble Volkswagen enthusiast here in Asia.

I am looking for an owner of a factory equipped DCC Polo 6C model who could be kind enough to lend me a hand. :D :D :D
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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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the coding seems to be ok in 0x14:
http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread. ... #post25826
http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread. ... to-polo-6c

but maybe you'll need to do some kind of basic setting, even though it doesn't report any errors. i presume you double-checked the wiring?
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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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We still have a coding with the ABS. After the DCC have been installed, the invalid coding appeared in the #03 ABS and #17 Instrument. We managed to resolve the instrument portion by re-coding. Did not have the same luck with the ABS though. However, we cannot understand why the ABS have anything to do with the DCC.

The basic setting required for the regular DCC which have level sensors. If not done, there would be an error code stating that the basic setting is not performed. There is no error from the #14 Elec Suspension category. I believe that we are good here.

We believe that the problem is in the Gateway function activation. Need some data from a factory DCC installed 6C Polo to see if we can resolve this.

You know any buddy who can lend a hand ?
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I guess you'll need to reverse engineer the ESP 9.0i coding for the Polo 6C (it's different from the Polo 6R). It's probably in one of the last bytes...
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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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what is it you need help with?

ive got a 2015 polo gti with the sport dampers and also VCDS
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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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Dink wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 6:51 pm what is it you need help with?

ive got a 2015 polo gti with the sport dampers and also VCDS
Hi Dink,

so glad to hear from you.

I need to have a suitable car's #17 Instrument's Advanced ID similar to this

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Wednesday,10,May,2017,11:34:05:24118
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: cbx auto
Workshop Code: 305 91777 091777

VIN: WVWZZZAUZFW205914   License Plate: XXXXXX



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                Address 17: Instruments
Control Module Part Number: 5G1 920 791 
  Component and/or Version: KOMBI         408 2180
           Software Coding: 2785018B7E9C000C0182FE0F1000000000000000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 91777
                      VCID: 69D3529E8827D4095E-803C

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
     Identification: VD1-048
     Date: 16.03.17
     Manufacturer number: 7395
     Test stand number: 7004
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0/0/0
     Programming Attempts(data): 0/0/0
     Successful Attempts(data): 0/0/0
     Flash Tool Code(data): 00000 000 00000
Misc.
     Hardware number: 5G1 920 791 
     Workshop System Name: J285
     Equipment/PR Code: 0000000000000000
     Dataset Number: -----------
     Dataset Version: ----
     ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB
     ASAM Dataset Revision: 009052
Car Info
     Chassis Number: WVWZZZAUZFW205914
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 69D3529E8827D4095E-803C
       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod

With this infor, we could be able to copy the data to make it work.

Thanks.
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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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sorry it's a bit late but hope this helps out

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Sunday,04,September,2016,16:04:52:06111
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.1.1 (x64)
Data version: 20160902 DS256
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFY312223   License Plate: 


                Address 17: Instruments  (6C0 920 946 B)

16:04:50
Monday,29,May,2017,16:35:17:06111
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFY312223   License Plate: 



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                Address 17: Instruments
Control Module Part Number: 6C0 920 946 B
  Component and/or Version: KOMBI         252 0310
           Software Coding: 272D01003980260001082A001000000000000000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00788
                      VCID: 295993E448EEFD099E-807C

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
     Identification: VO3-041
     Date: 10.04.15
     Manufacturer number: 0501
     Test stand number: 1002
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0/0/0
     Programming Attempts(data): 0/0/0
     Successful Attempts(data): 0/0/0
     Flash Tool Code(data): 00000 000 00000
Misc.
     Hardware number: 6C0 920 946 B
     Workshop System Name: J285
     Equipment/PR Code: 0000000000000000
     Dataset Number: -----------
     Dataset Version: ----
     ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB
     ASAM Dataset Revision: 009043
Car Info
     Chassis Number: WVWZZZ6RZFY312223
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 295993E448EEFD099E-807C
       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod

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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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Dink wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 4:38 pm sorry it's a bit late but hope this helps out
Dink ! Thanks a million ! Your help have put me closer to the completion of my project ! :D :D :D
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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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Hi All,
Gotta word from cbx750p that project isnt complete yet although using Dink VCD scan on #17.
Perhaps anybody could shine a light on this project?

Million Thanks
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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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just a heads-up on the Abs coding for the (DCC) dynamic chassis control. I stumbled upon this by chance and might help in the future. while I was decoding the abs 9.0i 25byte coding I found that byte 10 has a value of 10 for cars without DCC while those with DCC are coded with value 30. Hopefully cbx750 has it sorted already, its been a while.
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Re: Sport Select Retrofit on 6C Polo

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Hi to everyone,

I just signed up to ask you guys a question.
I see that you put a lot of effort to figure out how to code the DCC into the Polo.

Is there one of you that could help me to figure out how I can safely disable that function with VCDS in order to install different shocks on the car?

Best regards,
Isaac B.
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