iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
K dataset with K firmware unfortunately does the same
I'm looking forward to the telematics retrofit, it's a nice thing to have, adds a lot of safety, at least for my feeling. I hope it works!
Short term plans are to install the Mk8 EA888 gen4 PCV --> https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.ph ... mo.429130/
Swap coolant from G13 Evo to G12 --> viewtopic.php?p=586061#p586061 + viewtopic.php?p=598477#p598477
I'm looking forward to the telematics retrofit, it's a nice thing to have, adds a lot of safety, at least for my feeling. I hope it works!
Short term plans are to install the Mk8 EA888 gen4 PCV --> https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.ph ... mo.429130/
Swap coolant from G13 Evo to G12 --> viewtopic.php?p=586061#p586061 + viewtopic.php?p=598477#p598477
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
Mk8 PCV done (06Q103495B + 06K103210D). I made my own boost tap with a simple hose barb and 10mm fuel line. Works perfectly.
Could also work on a 6C GTI and related cars. AW GTI probably already has a similar system.
Lots of info on the subject
https://www.datadrivenmqb.com/drivetrain (really recommended)
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.ph ... mo.429130/
Could also work on a 6C GTI and related cars. AW GTI probably already has a similar system.
Lots of info on the subject
https://www.datadrivenmqb.com/drivetrain (really recommended)
https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.ph ... mo.429130/
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
Upgraded the G13 coolant "Mit Silikat" (factory fill, maintenance free) for G12 Evo. G12 Evo is the successor for G13, even though the name suggests differently.
G13 had the nasty habit of clogging heater matrix cores over time, mostly on TDI engines. I also got rod of the old expansion tank as it had the Silicate teabag, that is known to rupture in some cases. Clogging up the coolant system as well. New bottle: 5Q0121407AA
It's an easy job, but hopefully with great pleasure.
Interesting reads:
TSB 2025303
viewtopic.php?p=586061#p586061
viewtopic.php?p=598477#p598477
https://www.audirs3.de/threads/g12evo-k ... ost-341094
https://imgur.com/a/szkFD4W
G13 had the nasty habit of clogging heater matrix cores over time, mostly on TDI engines. I also got rod of the old expansion tank as it had the Silicate teabag, that is known to rupture in some cases. Clogging up the coolant system as well. New bottle: 5Q0121407AA
It's an easy job, but hopefully with great pleasure.
Interesting reads:
TSB 2025303
viewtopic.php?p=586061#p586061
viewtopic.php?p=598477#p598477
https://www.audirs3.de/threads/g12evo-k ... ost-341094
https://imgur.com/a/szkFD4W
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
A pleasant surprise to see the GW update easily from AA to AG to AR (could have done AR in one go but i had AG dataset, in case I messed up)
No dataset needed, all codings, adaptations and history maintained.
Remember, original FW 5xxx = continental, FW 4xxx is Lear. Lear will to to AG.
DCC slider is still present, no need to re-set battery etc.
No dataset needed, all codings, adaptations and history maintained.
Remember, original FW 5xxx = continental, FW 4xxx is Lear. Lear will to to AG.
DCC slider is still present, no need to re-set battery etc.
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
Interesting. It appears that the 'DCC slider' (functions) is an additional data set within the GW data set.
I have the impression that since I updated the GW to AR on our Golf7.5 MQB everything 'flows' better, even when new updates are made to other units and all these modification processes with diagnostic tools. I don't know how to explain it clearly, but although with SWs prior to AR everything worked well, on some occasions some intermittent fault would appear that made no sense , which would disappear later with a new ignition cycle or by erasing it with the diagnostic tool.
There are new updates for the GW (Passat, Arteon, ...) but for now I'm sticking with the GW AR and BCM EC combination, I really like how everything 'flows' (no sporadic or intermittent faults/dtcs without sense).
I have the impression that since I updated the GW to AR on our Golf7.5 MQB everything 'flows' better, even when new updates are made to other units and all these modification processes with diagnostic tools. I don't know how to explain it clearly, but although with SWs prior to AR everything worked well, on some occasions some intermittent fault would appear that made no sense , which would disappear later with a new ignition cycle or by erasing it with the diagnostic tool.
There are new updates for the GW (Passat, Arteon, ...) but for now I'm sticking with the GW AR and BCM EC combination, I really like how everything 'flows' (no sporadic or intermittent faults/dtcs without sense).
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
some more SW updates:
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a bit pointless, but now we know it works without dataset. F is the latest flash container I could find.
H is also found on i.e. 2019 passat (SW 0539 mine is 0610) --> https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/33796/
FW K L M is Audi only
I'll be installing 2Q0 lane assist soon so I won't enjoy the F firmware that much anyway
and from
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does need dataset + G85 initialization
see more here: viewtopic.php?p=597542#p597542
but I got some more zero's for coding . Dataset number didn't change, funny.
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no dataset needed, still chasing easy close with mirror fold and kick to close
and last but not least...
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needs a dataset but SWAP + calibration are maintained
upcoming mods:
- 42, 52, BB and BC modules upgrade from 5Q0 HW: E + SW: E to 5Q0 HW: F and SW: K/L
- BCM 084EC
- 2Q0 side assist
- Kessy module to N/Q SW
- I'm unsure if the 084E BCM will work with the 5Q0 slip ring, so Patil inspired me about 5Q1 slip rings. I'll give that a try too.
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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769) Labels:| 3Q0-907-566.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 566 E HW: 3Q0 907 566
Component: MRR1Rear H20 0510
Revision: -------- Dataset Number: V03935248QY 0001
Coding: 14C002
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00065
ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X 001007
ROD: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X_VW37.rod
VCID: 3A2DCFA94CDD7C1A01F-806F
No fault code found.
Address CF: Lane Chge Asst 2 (J770) Labels:. 3Q0-907-566.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 590 E HW: 3Q0 907 590
Component: MRR1Rear H20 0510
Revision: --------
Coding: 14C002
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X 001007
ROD: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X_VW37.rod
VCID: 372BD69D7FCF6172FE1-8063
No fault code found.
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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769) Labels:| 3Q0-907-566.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 566 F HW: 3Q0 907 566
Component: MRR1Rear H20 0610
Revision: -------- Dataset Number: V03935248QY 0001
Coding: 14C002
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00065
ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X 001007
ROD: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X_VW37.rod
VCID: 3B23CAAD43E745121A9-806E
No fault code found.
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Address CF: Lane Chge Asst 2 (J770) Labels:. 3Q0-907-566.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 590 F HW: 3Q0 907 590
Component: MRR1Rear H20 0610
Revision: --------
Coding: 14C002
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X 001007
ROD: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X_VW37.rod
VCID: 3829D5A172D16E0AF7B-806C
No fault code found.
H is also found on i.e. 2019 passat (SW 0539 mine is 0610) --> https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/33796/
FW K L M is Audi only
I'll be installing 2Q0 lane assist soon so I won't enjoy the F firmware that much anyway
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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 K HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 506 5072
Dataset Number: V03935256EB 0001
Coding: 9307
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00319
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
VCID: 3A2DCFA94CDD7C1A01F-806F
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 M HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 506 5082
Dataset Number: V03935256EB 0001
Coding: 93070000
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00319
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 015157
ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_015.rod
VCID: 3C21C9B146E9422A133-8068
No fault code found.
see more here: viewtopic.php?p=597542#p597542
but I got some more zero's for coding . Dataset number didn't change, funny.
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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605) Labels:| 5Q0-959-107.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 107 M HW: 5Q0 959 107 C
Component: HDSG-Modul H12 0261
Revision: -------- Serial number: 31344982200000 Dataset Number: V03935327XF 0001
Coding: 02A8
Shop #: WSC 30389 123 56831
ASAM Dataset: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736 001014
ROD: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_VW37.rod
VCID: 42DDB749240D34DA59F-8017
No fault code found.
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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605) Labels:| 5Q0-959-107.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 107 Q HW: 5Q0 959 107 C
Component: HDSG-Modul H12 0265
Revision: -------- Serial number: 31344982200000 Dataset Number: V03935327XF 0001
Coding: 02A8
Shop #: WSC 30389 123 56831
ASAM Dataset: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736 001014
ROD: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_VW37.rod
VCID: 42DDB749240D34DA59F-8017
No fault code found.
and last but not least...
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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242) Labels:| 2Q0-980-653.clb
Part No SW: 2Q0 980 653 C HW: 2Q0 980 653
Component: MQB MFK 3.0 H16 1302
Serial number: E80320003220200 Dataset Number: V03935368RP 0001
Coding: 0004019821FEC024889F14001020004000438000000000000000000000000000
ASAM Dataset: EV_MFK3ValeoMQB 007042
ROD: EV_MFK3ValeoMQB_007_VW27.rod
VCID: 3537DC9565C39362ECD-8060
No fault code found.
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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242) Labels:| 2Q0-980-653.clb
Part No SW: 2Q0 980 653 D HW: 2Q0 980 653
Component: MQB MFK 3.0 H16 1421
Serial number: E80320003220200 Dataset Number: V03935368RP 0001
Coding: 0004019821FEC024889F14001020004000438000000000000000000000000000
ASAM Dataset: EV_MFK3ValeoMQB 007042
ROD: EV_MFK3ValeoMQB_007_VW27.rod
VCID: 3537DC9565C39362ECD-8060
No fault code found.
upcoming mods:
- 42, 52, BB and BC modules upgrade from 5Q0 HW: E + SW: E to 5Q0 HW: F and SW: K/L
- BCM 084EC
- 2Q0 side assist
- Kessy module to N/Q SW
- I'm unsure if the 084E BCM will work with the 5Q0 slip ring, so Patil inspired me about 5Q1 slip rings. I'll give that a try too.
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
Intersting 5Q1 BCM, HW44/SW 512 I don't expect lot of changes from 5Q0 937084EC ( HW44/ SW 511), but good to have latest one. There is already SW update for 084EC BCM ( 511 1513)
I hope the new BCM might fix your side mirrors not folding with easy close, though primarily I believe your kessy module needs update to fix the issue. May be your stock kessy module SW is not configured from factory to fold mirrors with easy close, the communication protocol between 6D unit and BCM vary with different HW/SW versions of Kessy unit.
I've already started drafting my electric tailgate retrofit details. Hopefully I will post soon.
I hope the new BCM might fix your side mirrors not folding with easy close, though primarily I believe your kessy module needs update to fix the issue. May be your stock kessy module SW is not configured from factory to fold mirrors with easy close, the communication protocol between 6D unit and BCM vary with different HW/SW versions of Kessy unit.
I've already started drafting my electric tailgate retrofit details. Hopefully I will post soon.
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
iichel, you will need
1. BCM HW 038 or higher
2. Kessy module SW " N" or higher
3. 6D module with SW "Q/T" with correctly modified dataset
4. Kick sensor control module " C " or higher
With above criteria fulfilled, everything should work perfectly.
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
Sometimes there are disconcerting things in the ETKA, the BCM 5Q0 EC (SW 511) supposedly replaces all those mentioned on the right of the dialogue, including the 5Q1 B (SW 512). It is advisable to be cautious with experiments, that is, do a deep investigation comparing both SWs.
Ali: (price comparison)
- 5Q1937084B
https://es.aliexpress.com/i/1005005407109468.html
- 5Q0937084EC
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4001034124074.html
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
I reverted back to E, since I had errors about both L +R LED indicators in the mirrors and lane assist stopped working completely.iichel wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:29 pm some more SW updates:
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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769) Labels:| 3Q0-907-566.clb Part No SW: 3Q0 907 566 E HW: 3Q0 907 566 Component: MRR1Rear H20 0510 Revision: -------- Dataset Number: V03935248QY 0001 Coding: 14C002 Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00065 ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X 001007 ROD: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X_VW37.rod VCID: 3A2DCFA94CDD7C1A01F-806F No fault code found. Address CF: Lane Chge Asst 2 (J770) Labels:. 3Q0-907-566.clb Part No SW: 3Q0 907 590 E HW: 3Q0 907 590 Component: MRR1Rear H20 0510 Revision: -------- Coding: 14C002 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X 001007 ROD: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X_VW37.rod VCID: 372BD69D7FCF6172FE1-8063 No fault code found.
a bit pointless, but now we know it works without dataset. F is the latest flash container I could find.Code: Select all
Address 3C: Lane Change (J769) Labels:| 3Q0-907-566.clb Part No SW: 3Q0 907 566 F HW: 3Q0 907 566 Component: MRR1Rear H20 0610 Revision: -------- Dataset Number: V03935248QY 0001 Coding: 14C002 Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00065 ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X 001007 ROD: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X_VW37.rod VCID: 3B23CAAD43E745121A9-806E No fault code found. ----- Address CF: Lane Chge Asst 2 (J770) Labels:. 3Q0-907-566.clb Part No SW: 3Q0 907 590 F HW: 3Q0 907 590 Component: MRR1Rear H20 0610 Revision: -------- Coding: 14C002 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X 001007 ROD: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X_VW37.rod VCID: 3829D5A172D16E0AF7B-806C No fault code found.
Seems like F is Audi only: https://vag-flashinfo.de/site/index?partno=3Q0907590 / https://vag-flashinfo.de/site/index?partno=3Q0907566
G is latest 3Q0 SW, after that it was all 2Q0 radar
2019 3Q0 G: https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/31538/
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
from:
to FM 0755
After flashing it was necessary to restore coding. Basic settings not needed.
Compatibility chart by Medusa852: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
It looks like my passat is in the 07xx FW series, so 0755 is currently highest. DB 08xx seems to be for GTE, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 CH HW: 5Q0 614 517 AH
Component: ESC H62 0743
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 61907000000236
Coding: 0FEC6B8F54222371477D070540CB69F0D62AC4E2E00296753842508842A9420000000012121212B835351919323200
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 036010
ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_036_VW48.rod
VCID: 79AF10A5095BB702485-802C
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: None
Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 FM HW: 5Q0 614 517 AH
Component: ESC H62 0755
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 61907000000236
Coding: 0FEC6B8F54222371477D070540CB69F0D62AC4E2E00296753842508842A9420000000012121212B835351919323200
Shop #: WSC 30389 123 56831
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 037009
ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_037_VW37.rod
VCID: 015F7845618BEFC2005-8054
No fault code found.
Compatibility chart by Medusa852: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
It looks like my passat is in the 07xx FW series, so 0755 is currently highest. DB 08xx seems to be for GTE, but I'm not 100% sure.
Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
Hey, do you want to run kick to close?
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Re: iichels VW Passat 2.0 TSI DSG 4-Motion 2017
I did at my place, send me a scan of the ODIS car to my email and I will help you.
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