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Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:44 pm
by Le_Combattant
JiSingh1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:33 pm
Le_Combattant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:02 pm
Maybe you are right.
In the Fuchs document, where did you see the ester additive ?
So on the other forum I linked, I was told it is an Ester and the code in the original VW datasheet, it is 01-2119493620-38.
If you type this code into google, you will get the EC number 931-384-6, which is what is listed in Fuchs.
Maybe I'm blind
I can't found on the PDF of the Fuchs 75W
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:48 pm
by JiSingh1
Le_Combattant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:44 pm
Maybe I'm blind
I can't found on the PDF of the Fuchs 75W
https://cdn.opieoils.co.uk/msds/fuchs/2 ... S41OS4wLjA.
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:56 pm
by Le_Combattant
Okey, the PDF I had was from 2018 but the shape was different. No table with chemical composition.
Man, it's a crazy story.
I still have at home 3 brand new bottles of Fuchs Oil, and now 4 more bottle of Liqui Moly
What is better ?
Viscosity or chemical composition ?
On my side, gear change is butter smooth when warm.
Just 1st gear is a little bit notchy (after engine start, before the first gear shiffting).
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:06 pm
by JiSingh1
Le_Combattant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:56 pm
Okey, the PDF I had was from 2018 but the shape was different. No table with chemical composition.
Man, it's a crazy story.
I still have at home 3 brand new bottles of Fuchs Oil, and now 4 more bottle of Liqui Moly
What is better ?
Viscosity or chemical composition ?
On my side, gear change is butter smooth when warm.
Just 1st gear is a little bit notchy (after engine start, before the first gear shiffting).
Somebody had told me that viscosity is better, but additives are also important. However the liqui moly seems to have the advantage of being only made for VW, therefore should be ok to use?
If you had the chemical equipment you could heat them both up and compare to see how well they flow lol
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:16 pm
by Le_Combattant
JiSingh1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:06 pm
Le_Combattant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:56 pm
Okey, the PDF I had was from 2018 but the shape was different. No table with chemical composition.
Man, it's a crazy story.
I still have at home 3 brand new bottles of Fuchs Oil, and now 4 more bottle of Liqui Moly
What is better ?
Viscosity or chemical composition ?
On my side, gear change is butter smooth when warm.
Just 1st gear is a little bit notchy (after engine start, before the first gear shiffting).
Somebody had told me that viscosity is better, but additives are also important. However the liqui moly seems to have the advantage of being only made for VW, therefore should be ok to use?
If you had the chemical equipment you could heat them both up and compare to see how well they flow lol
Could be also marketing. I mean, company, brand are capable to do everything/make promises to sell you their products.
Also, on the Fuchs, you only have VW standards.
What ever the case, I have 14 days in front of me to search before reaching the deadline of sending back Liqui Moly oil.
Unfortunatey, If I try to cook oil with my parents kitchen tool, I'm gonna die
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:38 pm
by JiSingh1
Le_Combattant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:16 pm
Could be also marketing. I mean, company, brand are capable to do everything/make promises to sell you their products.
Also, on the Fuchs, you only have VW standards.
What ever the case, I have 14 days in front of me to search before reaching the deadline of sending back Liqui Moly oil.
Unfortunatey, If I try to cook oil with my parents kitchen tool, I'm gonna die
Oh yes, Fuchs is only VW too - but I'm surprised how the liqui moly is a lot more thinner than the Fuchs, would have thought the other way round. Not even sure how you will find the answers, it's just a risk you have to take, lol.
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:48 pm
by Le_Combattant
JiSingh1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:38 pm
Le_Combattant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:16 pm
Could be also marketing. I mean, company, brand are capable to do everything/make promises to sell you their products.
Also, on the Fuchs, you only have VW standards.
What ever the case, I have 14 days in front of me to search before reaching the deadline of sending back Liqui Moly oil.
Unfortunatey, If I try to cook oil with my parents kitchen tool, I'm gonna die
Oh yes, Fuchs is only VW too - but I'm surprised how the liqui moly is a lot more thinner than the Fuchs, would have thought the other way round. Not even sure how you will find the answers, it's just a risk you have to take, lol.
Since I'm running on Fuchs since the begening of 2023: no issue since.
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:23 pm
by JiSingh1
Le_Combattant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:48 pm
Since I'm running on Fuchs since the begening of 2023: no issue since.
Yeah, you may have an improvement, but you might not. Never know until you try it, will you risk it is the question? :p
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:44 pm
by JiSingh1
There is also Valvoline 75W but I can not seem to find it.
https://go.lupinsys.com/valvoline/harms ... _Sheet.pdf
ALSO, Motul Multi DCTF. Made for DCT, compatible with manual gearboxes.
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-73990-motu ... y-wet.aspx
Viscosity of: 33.8 and 7.3.
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:42 am
by Le_Combattant
In the end, I made the following decision:
I'm going to send my Liqui Moly oils back (I'll lose the postage).
On LeBonCoin, a guy is selling a bottle of G052527A2 for 25 euros. .
I'm going to get two more from Germany (55 euros/l), so I can fill the can properly and "reduce" the cost.
Re: Gearboxes, gear oil, and levels
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:41 am
by JiSingh1
Le_Combattant wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:42 am
In the end, I made the following decision:
I'm going to send my Liqui Moly oils back (I'll lose the postage).
On LeBonCoin, a guy is selling a bottle of G052527A2 for 25 euros. .
I'm going to get two more from Germany (55 euros/l), so I can fill the can properly and "reduce" the cost.
Ah still so expensive for me, I have had a silly idea but might work. There is Vauxhall/Opel oil original, which is like £60 for 3l. I wonder if it is possible. 31 and 6.2 viscosity and 0.855 density.