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stuartrendall wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:07 pm Between the cars I think it comes down to cost of each car and how long you're prepared to wait for the car to arrive. I waited 21 weeks for my GTI+ with black pack, winter pack and rev camera on it and I paid a little over £18k after discounts thanks to good deals and a good relationship with my local dealer.

I pay a little over £250 a month PCP for my GTI+ with a lot of good kit as standard way more then I need for the 40miles I do a day and I would imagine a fully specc'd R-Line on PCP will cost more than a GTI+ with some goodies on it but that would be if the GTI+ is brand new due to PCP taking into account residuals and a new GTI+ PCP will be much lower then a nearly new used one. But if you were to get a new one with the whole Covid situation right now you may be looking at a few more months on top of what you would be waiting for the R-Line to take delivery. Due to your age too insurance should be considered, I paid £600 and i'm 21 thanks to the safety systems but as you said before with your points on your license it may make the R-Line more justified.

I suppose it comes down to a balance of cost and patience... or it would with me anyway.

monkeyhanger wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:27 pm

stuartrendall wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:07 pm Between the cars I think it comes down to cost of each car and how long you're prepared to wait for the car to arrive. I waited 21 weeks for my GTI+ with black pack, winter pack and rev camera on it and I paid a little over £18k after discounts thanks to good deals and a good relationship with my local dealer.

I pay a little over £250 a month PCP for my GTI+ with a lot of good kit as standard way more then I need for the 40miles I do a day and I would imagine a fully specc'd R-Line on PCP will cost more than a GTI+ with some goodies on it but that would be if the GTI+ is brand new due to PCP taking into account residuals and a new GTI+ PCP will be much lower then a nearly new used one. But if you were to get a new one with the whole Covid situation right now you may be looking at a few more months on top of what you would be waiting for the R-Line to take delivery. Due to your age too insurance should be considered, I paid £600 and i'm 21 thanks to the safety systems but as you said before with your points on your license it may make the R-Line more justified.

I suppose it comes down to a balance of cost and patience... or it would with me anyway.

£18k for a new GTI+ with a few options? What is your special relationship? Is your wife/girlfriend the sales manager? That's about double the drivethedeal discount.

Ima wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:22 pm Surely they sold the car then at a loss to keep you sweet. Let us in to your secret so we can all go to your dealer

stuartrendall wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:35 pm

Ima wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:22 pm Surely they sold the car then at a loss to keep you sweet. Let us in to your secret so we can all go to your dealer

I'm not sure what their break even is to be honest but i've always gone to the same dealer during my 3 years of driving and VW ownership. During that time they have destroyed my gearbox, wiring loom, paint work and dented my old car. I went through a whole legal case with them and they settled it by paying for all their damage and a little compensation and I also have a video of them driving a customers car into a wall after a tech slipped the clutch pedal and I suppose they just dont want that sort of thing reaching the publicity and after showing it the the workshop manager he was also keen on it being kept secret. All in all the time i've spent in and out the dealer i've gotten to know the people well so I guess it has somewhat paid off.

stuartrendall wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:05 pm
I've had a few incidents with my local dealer and seen stuff that could get them into quite some trouble so they like to keep me sweet I suppose

monkeyhanger wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:54 pm

stuartrendall wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:05 pm
I've had a few incidents with my local dealer and seen stuff that could get them into quite some trouble so they like to keep me sweet I suppose

So it's almost like implied intent to blackmail?

If they give you about 28% discount then there's no profit in it for them.

Basic dealership margin is 5%, there's about 10% tied to customer satisfaction score (which is why your salesperson always begs for a good satisfaction survey response) and about 15% max tied to volume discount tiers.

So a dealership with happy customers and a huge turnover of cars gets about 30% off list. That came straight from a salesman at Pulman I used to get my cars from. The larger "rep-mobile" cars sold through fleet are on a different discounting structure.

monkeyhanger wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:15 am I think we've scared him off, or he's off to sort his desler out.