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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:08 pm
by Mart!n-GTI-DK
NicoWallmeier wrote:Hi ciclo,

I bought the automatic lights wiring a long time ago - everything still working fine :D Now I want to change my old H4 lights to H7 lights - therefore I need to change the coding of the BCM - recode byte 18 from 61 to 65 (according to the German forum). Do I have to change more / anything else because of the automatic lights wiring?

Thanks!
Nico
H4 to H7 is just at straight swap of the headlights. No coding required. Plug and play.

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:41 pm
by ciclo
Mart!n-GTI-DK wrote:
NicoWallmeier wrote:Hi ciclo,

I bought the automatic lights wiring a long time ago - everything still working fine :D Now I want to change my old H4 lights to H7 lights - therefore I need to change the coding of the BCM - recode byte 18 from 61 to 65 (according to the German forum). Do I have to change more / anything else because of the automatic lights wiring?

Thanks!
Nico
H4 to H7 is just at straight swap of the headlights. No coding required. Plug and play.
Mart!n, it's right, as long as the halogen headlights swap is done on a Polo 6R BlueMotion. Non-bluemotion.

Hi Nico, I'm glad to hear that the automatic lights wiring works perfectly, I hope it always remain so.
Do you know the reason to change from 61 to 65 Hex in Byte18? Do you have a link to? It is not necessary in your Bluemotion (nor other change due to automatic lights).

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:22 am
by ciclo
federicodrdpro wrote:
Which Headlights we can install? :lol:

The solutions? :? :arrow:
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:lol:

Thank you very much for all this info. I have yet to see if my xenon headlights have the halo.
Although I still fear more that a VW dealer have to do some work on my 6R...Image... :lol:
(given that a VW dealer is not the same as VW factory)

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 5:22 am
by firegrafik
NicoWallmeier wrote:Hi ciclo,

I bought the automatic lights wiring a long time ago - everything still working fine :D Now I want to change my old H4 lights to H7 lights - therefore I need to change the coding of the BCM - recode byte 18 from 61 to 65 (according to the German forum). Do I have to change more / anything else because of the automatic lights wiring?

Thanks!
Nico
Hello, NicoWallmeier.
65 is value of 18 byte on russian Polo 6R with factory bixenon headlights (BCM 7E0937090). If there are H7 halogen headlight with Auto light and RLS 18 byte is 61.

The main feature of the H4 headlights is in switching off the low beam H4 glower while the high beam is active. This is due to inadmissibility of working both glowers into the one bulb.
So when you retrofit your headlights to H7 you should change coding of the 09 Centr.electric to disable deactivation low beam while working high beam. The 18 byte value could be the same - 61
As I know if the 18 byte is 61 and additionally marked bit 2 byte 22 - the low beam doesn't work while high beam is active.
There are my Polo6R configuration of the 09 CentrElectr below. H7 headlights, Auto lights, RLS
https://www.drive2.ru/l/9309752/

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Адрес 09:  Блок управления бортовой сети (J519)       Label: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Компонент: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0733  
   Ревизия: B9080001    Серийный номер: 0771 139150190
   Кодировка: 22904ABF48E1240093380E00FE8B16F02EC8614F60862055220000000000
   Мастерская #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 68D444B99B5B047D3E-803C

   Подсистема 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Label: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Компонент: RLS 260215 03  37  0059 
   Кодировка: 0714DD

   Подсистема 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AG    HW: 6R0 959 801 AG  Label: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Компонент: -------------  006 5530 
   Кодировка: 000000

   Подсистема 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AM    HW: 6R0 959 802 AM  Label: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Компонент: -------------  006 5530 
   Кодировка: 000000

   Подсистема 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Компонент: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Кодировка: 000000

   Подсистема 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Компонент: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
   Кодировка: 000000

   Подсистема 6 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Компонент: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Кодировка: 000000

   Подсистема 7 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442     HW: 6C0 959 442 
   Компонент: E221__MFL-TAT  H04 0019 
   Кодировка: 240000

   Подсистема 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 L    HW: 6R0 959 811 L
   Компонент: -------------  006 5530 
   Кодировка: 020000

   Подсистема 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 L    HW: 6R0 959 812 L
   Компонент: -------------  006 5530 
   Кодировка: 020000

Неисправности не найдены.

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:22 am
by NicoWallmeier
Hi ciclo,
ciclo wrote:Hi Nico, I'm glad to hear that the automatic lights wiring works perfectly, I hope it always remain so.
Do you know the reason to change from 61 to 65 Hex in Byte18? Do you have a link to? It is not necessary in your Bluemotion (nor other change due to automatic lights).
The link is http://www.polo6rfreunde.de/index.php/T ... post189892. And I guess that I have to change something because the low beams are switched off if the high beams are activated. Maybe firegrafik already posted the right solution...

My current coding of the BCM is

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   Part No SW: 6R0 937 088 F    HW: 6R0 937 088 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Re4  H50 0353  
   Revision: BU050001    Serial number: 0456 140120530
   Coding: 3CB02BBF08A1000021300FB16EEB0FD05F80612F7E862441200000000000
Have a nice remaining weekend,
Nico

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:32 am
by iichel
You have a polo bluemotion (88F).
Sometimes it is plug and play, sometimes you need to disable byte 22 bit 2
Schönes Wochenend

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:57 pm
by ciclo
NicoWallmeier wrote: The link is http://www.polo6rfreunde.de/index.php/T ... post189892. And I guess that I have to change something because the low beams are switched off if the high beams are activated. Maybe firegrafik already posted the right solution...

Have a nice remaining weekend,
Nico
Many thanks Nico, firegrafik, iichel, etc...

According to all this great information due to combination of knowledges, tests, etc...:

You must disable Byte22 Bit2.
You must leave Byte18 as it is, 61Hex.

Please confirm the results. :wink:

You guys are the best!

NOW, we all know what enables the Byte22 Bit2, and in what cases it should be used (H4 BlueMotion, BCM Max).

BCM PQ25... "The Thing" Image

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:47 pm
by NicoWallmeier
Hi ciclo,
ciclo wrote: You must disable Byte22 Bit2.
You must leave Byte18 as it is, 61Hex.

Please confirm the results. :wink:
I've just disabled Byte 22 Bit 2 and leaveByte 18 as it is -> it's working perfectly now :D

Many thanks for the great support ciclo, firegrafik, iichel, etc...!!!

Have a nice remaining weekend!
Nico

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 1:54 pm
by benzinkopf
Hi guys. Ciclo, any luck on ur study how they did the rainclosing in polo?

Btw. My rear bootlid lock mechanism failed the other day.

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Have to 3dprint a new worm gear to repair.


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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 3:30 pm
by RekinPoznan
Hello Ciclo


Need some help...


I replaced BCM from 6R0937087K to 7H0937089 , factory my polo is with DRL and Static Cornering lights in foglights

I replaced factory headlamps to xenon headlamps with static cornering lights.

Xenon and Cornering light works good , but DRL LED not working , DRL LED is connected to T73B/3 (LEFT LAMP) and T73A/5 (RIGHT LAMP)
Cornering light in headlamp connected to T73B/9 left ,and T73B/10 right.

Dimmer connector T6/3 removed and isolate , new wire T6/3 ---> T73B/1 , 58d alternatiwe marked. (now dimmer regulation of instrument cluster , radio etc... not working)

Coding is now:3CB02BBF08E32400933008D16EAB0ED0FA8067FF60851040200000010000

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Many Thanks for any help

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 5:23 pm
by vc-10
benzinkopf wrote:Hi guys. Ciclo, any luck on ur study how they did the rainclosing in polo?

Btw. My rear bootlid lock mechanism failed the other day.

Image
Have to 3dprint a new worm gear to repair.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The future is here! :shock:

I really want a 3D printer...

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 6:02 pm
by ciclo
NicoWallmeier wrote:Hi ciclo,
ciclo wrote: You must disable Byte22 Bit2.
You must leave Byte18 as it is, 61Hex.

Please confirm the results. :wink:
I've just disabled Byte 22 Bit 2 and leaveByte 18 as it is -> it's working perfectly now :D

Many thanks for the great support ciclo, firegrafik, iichel, etc...!!!

Have a nice remaining weekend!
Nico
Great!
Thanks to you. :wink:
benzinkopf wrote:Hi guys. Ciclo, any luck on ur study how they did the rainclosing in polo?

Btw. My rear bootlid lock mechanism failed the other day.

Image
Have to 3dprint a new worm gear to repair.
I have not been lucky yet. (also lack of time to check with some encodings that gave me firegrafik, to play with binaries)
I will report if I have luck, you can be sure. :wink:
RekinPoznan wrote:Hello Ciclo


Need some help...


I replaced BCM from 6R0937087K to 7H0937089 , factory my polo is with DRL and Static Cornering lights in foglights

I replaced factory headlamps to xenon headlamps with static cornering lights.

Xenon and Cornering light works good , but DRL LED not working , DRL LED is connected to T73B/3 (LEFT LAMP) and T73A/5 (RIGHT LAMP)
Cornering light in headlamp connected to T73B/9 left ,and T73B/10 right.

Dimmer connector T6/3 removed and isolate , new wire T6/3 ---> T73B/1 , 58d alternatiwe marked. (now dimmer regulation of instrument cluster , radio etc... not working)

Coding is now:3CB02BBF08E32400933008D16EAB0ED0FA8067FF60851040200000010000

Image
Image
Image


Many Thanks for any help
Hi, check Byte 23 again.

3CB02BBF08E32400933008D16EAB0ED0FA8067FF60851040200000010000
3CB02BBF08E32400933008D16EAB0ED05A8067FF60851041200000010000
vc-10 wrote: The future is here! :shock:

I really want a 3D printer...
I also want. 8)

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 6:15 pm
by ciclo
RekinPoznan wrote: Xenon and Cornering light works good , but DRL LED not working , DRL LED is connected to T73B/3 (LEFT LAMP) and T73A/5 (RIGHT LAMP)
Remove-isolate yellow wire (1.0mm) from T17/3.

New wire (0.5mm) from T17/3 to T73b/29.

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 7:51 pm
by RekinPoznan
ciclo wrote:
RekinPoznan wrote: Xenon and Cornering light works good , but DRL LED not working , DRL LED is connected to T73B/3 (LEFT LAMP) and T73A/5 (RIGHT LAMP)
Remove-isolate yellow wire (1.0mm) from T17/3.

New wire (0.5mm) from T17/3 to T73b/29.

Hi Thanks for fast replay


Now remowed T17/3 and isolate , aded new wire from T17/3 ---> T73b/29
Still no results , interior light not working :( , any solution to change diming cluster , radio etc ?

New coding: 3CB02BBF08E32400933008D16EAB0ED0FA8067FF60851041200000010000


Best Regards Chriss

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:04 pm
by ciclo
Please post a full Autoscan. (to check with Elsawin the diagrams)

:arrow: You need to install the Wiring1 and Wiring2 for BCM Max. See and read the entire post and images (BCM Max).

The problem is in how the signal is sent from T17/16 to T73a/45 with your original installation. You need to do this to fix the problem of Switches and Instruments lights and other lights