Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Franciswat wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:31 pm Do you replaced K418 with new windows regulators motors only because you were looking for OEM retrofit or because of you encurred problems with K418? Thanks :wink:
Due to an OEM retrofit, there was no problem with K418 unit + the relay.

I currently have coded our Golf MK7.5 with OEM folding mirrors as if I had installed the K418 unit in the Golf :lol:, they fold and unfold when locking and unlocking with the remote control. It is also possible to code them as in my 6R (with the ignition key).
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Thank you ciclo, I'm actually working on the wirings following your instructions. :wink:

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As you see my K418 package has brown and orange wires with their own fuses (7.5 A each) for extra protection (???).

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Did you leave 15A fuse into It's original fusebox or did you move to the car's fusebox? :wink:

I think will be lovely also to move relay into car's relays holder.. but first try to make It works. :roll:

As far as I can see looks like K418 unit is no longer available in this universe.. :lol: I cross my fingers everything will work fine!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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I placed the 15A fuse in the original fuse box.

I bought several K418 units for other projects that I didn't do later. I think I still have a new one somewhere of my dust universe in the garage (in case you need it).
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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ciclo wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:37 am I think I still have a new one somewhere of my dust universe in the garage (in case you need it).
Thanks so much ciclo I feel much more safe knowing I can replace my k418 unit if needed considering I purchased It a lot of time ago and can't comply anymore with seller for any problems. :wink:

I'm very happy because I recently purchased a pair of 6c tail light for a very cheap price (25 euro each). I could not find a smoked version with similar price so I decided to buy not smoked one because it's a big improve anyways.

Once opened I saw position light bulb is much bigger so I compared position light bulbs between 6r and 6c and I found they are 5w vs 16w. Now I understand why 6c tail light looks brighter. :o

As far as you remember guys the other bulbs are the same in 6r and 6c? Thanks :wink:

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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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No the parking light in the 6r is a w5w (t10 mount) while the 6c carries a w16w iirc (t20 mount)
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Thank you iichel so just one bulb is different :wink:

Now a completely unrelated question; do you know mates If I can code my airbag unit via adaptation instead of buying a new one to retrofits airbag switch?

Thanks in advance :!: 8)
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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I don't think that's possible.
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Franciswat wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:32 pm Thank you iichel so just one bulb is different :wink:

Now a completely unrelated question; does anyone know if I can code my airbag unit via adaptation instead of buying a new one to retrofits airbag switch?

Thanks in advance :!: 8)


It's something that I should have done, but finally I didn't check it, I installed the new airbag unit and forgot about the original one.

The pins for the ON/OFF passenger airbag switch, and passenger airbag warning light were present in my original airbag unit, but at the time I did this retrofitting there was no info on the VCDS adaptation channels for these units.

The new airbag units are expensive, so you will have to check if your original airbag unit can support the switch and light once you make the wiring installation and change the values ​​in the adaptation channels.

I will be very grateful if you publish the results with a report. TIA.
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iichel wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:50 pm I don't think that's possible.
If a new to buy a new airbag unit I don't like the cost benefit for me :wink:
ciclo wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:57 pmThe new airbag units are expensive, so you will have to check if your original airbag unit can support the switch and light once you make the wiring installation and change the values ​​in the adaptation channels.
I will be very grateful if you publish the results with a report. TIA.
When I'll disassembly the car to install the climatronic I'll check my airbag unit and will post more details. I'd like to install the switch but only if I do not have to buy a new unit! Of course I will let you know about it mate even because I will need your help for the adaptation.
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Just to make this interesting. I did try installing the switch and manage to see the button light up when switching the switch. There re pins in my airbag controller too. But i didn’t able to change the coding/adaptation with vcds last time. And then, i went to Service Centre to seek help even with online programming. But still its not able to code. Somehow the airbag really only accept any change when its new. So i have to take out all the wiring again.

Well, maybe there’s new development going on with VCDS now. maybe its possible. I would like to know as well!


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benzinkopf wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:24 pm Just to make this interesting. I did try installing the switch and manage to see the button light up when switching the switch. There re pins in my airbag controller too. But i didn’t able to change the coding/adaptation with vcds last time. And then, i went to Service Centre to seek help even with online programming. But still its not able to code. Somehow the airbag really only accept any change when its new. So i have to take out all the wiring again.

Well, maybe there’s new development going on with VCDS now. maybe its possible. I would like to know as well!


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Now I am even more curious to know if my original airbag unit could accept the changes in the adaptation channels (with ODIS or another tool).

If I were able to do it I would sell it for a million smiles. :lol:
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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please do!! its just so expensive to change the airbag module here for the function[emoji23].ps: i havent manage to buy the HBA mirror yet!


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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Now I am focused on several retrofits for my wife's Golf (I am sure you will like them), discovering very interesting things ...

For the 6R I am looking forward to installing the CC Emulator for the MFSW CC, but it will still take some more time. I will install a new BCM Max (0.1 sec to do it) and I will have to find time for my original Airbag unit (you know, the central tunnel, etc :lol: ).
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Guys do you know if 6C1857097 switch works as well as 6R1857097 on Polo 6R? :?
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel

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Hi guys and happy new 2020 :!:

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Actually the new year did not start very well for me :? since few hours ago both my lowbeams, DLRs and half of internal lights do not work anymore!
That happened once I started the car and turned on lights as always.. instantly bulb warning on IC and lights off! I had to turn on fog lights and cornering lights to go home!

Autoscan revealed an open circuit error.
Can you guys please suggest me what to check a part from the fuses? Thanks

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01:45 01/01/2020Tuesday,31,December,2019,18:52:26:39744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY541234   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 55 56 0B

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY541234   Mileage: 101360km-62982miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BC    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0002  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 210224E3217100B5842524E484D700401300
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 00085B4297984341E9-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 N    HW: 6R0 820 045 N
   Component: Man AC        H02 0202  
   Revision: 0003SH02    
   VCID: 397EF6A6B0C2D289EE-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0736  
   Revision: B9080001    Serial number: 0771 060161479
   Coding: 3CB02BBF08E1240092380E916C6B0DD9DAC0672F608D30D0200000030000
   Shop #: WSC 02737 534 00190
   VCID: 68D863E29BE89B0141-803C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB    HW: 6R0 959 801 AB  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU004011200011991
   Coding: 18BC30

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD    HW: 6R0 959 802 AD  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU005011200017885
   Coding: 08BC30

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H01 0008 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0103 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442     HW: 1K8 959 442 
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H04 0103 
   Serial number: 29170002240760027504
   Coding: A40000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU010011200012406
   Coding: 08BC32

   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   Serial number: KU0KU009011200013136
   Coding: 08BC32

2 Faults Found:
01516 - Terminal 30; Left 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 186
                    Mileage: 101369 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.05.23
                    Time: 18:47:15

00927 - Terminal 30 (Right) 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 186
                    Mileage: 101369 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.05.23
                    Time: 18:47:15


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L    HW: 56D 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H02 0106  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 20231629400567
   Coding: 108001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW57XParkAssis8K 001003
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 3B72ECAEB2FEE099FC-806E

No ASAM data for: "EV_VW57XParkAssis8K" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX011W0JJ
   Coding: 003232
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbvAW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 4A9CB96AED24491177-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3575HRB4059124B2F99H

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3585HRB4061131GQCOUS

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3515RRB405P0VC0I5P0W

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3525RRB40510VC0IA9B9

No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbvAW10BPAVW250" (VW25) 
No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 920 871 A    HW: 6R0 920 871 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0505  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 140E01
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3460C7929FA02FE13D-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090 
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0736  
   Revision: B9080001    
   Coding: 002200
   Shop #: WSC 02737 534 00190
   VCID: 68D863E29BE89B0141-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 0505  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoU_DS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: N/A
   VCID: 6ADC19EA8DE4A91157-803E

No ASAM data for: "EV_ImmoU_DS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *) 
No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Coding: 11250
   Shop #: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6AC8FEEA860C3940-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357     HW: 6R0 907 357 
   Component: LWR-ECU       H02 0070  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0110000001000000
   Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
   VCID: 77FA309ECE5604F9D8-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         541 5522  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4K6200530
   Coding: 16000400040006
   Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
   VCID: 46848D5AF13CAD7193-8012

No fault code found.

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