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Re: Upgrading my Polo 6R bifuel
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:19 am
by ciclo
Franciswat wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:31 pm
Do you replaced K418 with new windows regulators motors only because you were looking for OEM retrofit or because of you encurred problems with K418? Thanks
Due to an OEM retrofit, there was no problem with K418 unit + the relay.
I currently have coded our Golf MK7.5 with OEM folding mirrors as if I had installed the K418 unit in the Golf
, they fold and unfold when locking and unlocking with the remote control. It is also possible to code them as in my 6R (with the ignition key).
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:09 am
by Franciswat
Thank you ciclo, I'm actually working on the wirings following your instructions.
As you see my K418 package has brown and orange wires with their own fuses (7.5 A each) for extra protection (???).
Did you leave 15A fuse into It's original fusebox or did you move to the car's fusebox?
I think will be lovely also to move relay into car's relays holder.. but first try to make It works.
As far as I can see looks like K418 unit is no longer available in this universe..
I cross my fingers everything will work fine!
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:37 am
by ciclo
I placed the 15A fuse in the original fuse box.
I bought several K418 units for other projects that I didn't do later. I think I still have a new one somewhere of my dust universe in the garage (in case you need it).
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:13 am
by Franciswat
ciclo wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:37 am I think I still have a new one somewhere of my dust universe in the garage (in case you need it).
Thanks so much ciclo I feel much more safe knowing I can replace my k418 unit if needed considering I purchased It a lot of time ago and can't comply anymore with seller for any problems.
I'm very happy because I recently purchased a pair of 6c tail light for a very cheap price (25 euro each). I could not find a smoked version with similar price so I decided to buy not smoked one because it's a big improve anyways.
Once opened I saw position light bulb is much bigger so I compared position light bulbs between 6r and 6c and I found they are 5w vs 16w. Now I understand why 6c tail light looks brighter.
As far as you remember guys the other bulbs are the same in 6r and 6c? Thanks
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:02 pm
by iichel
No the parking light in the 6r is a w5w (t10 mount) while the 6c carries a w16w iirc (t20 mount)
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:32 pm
by Franciswat
Thank you iichel so just one bulb is different
Now a completely unrelated question; do you know mates If I can code my airbag unit via adaptation instead of buying a new one to retrofits airbag switch?
Thanks in advance
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:50 pm
by iichel
I don't think that's possible.
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:57 pm
by ciclo
Franciswat wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:32 pm
Thank you iichel so just one bulb is different
Now a completely unrelated question; does anyone know if I can code my airbag unit via adaptation instead of buying a new one to retrofits airbag switch?
Thanks in advance
It's something that I should have done, but finally I didn't check it, I installed the new airbag unit and forgot about the original one.
The pins for the ON/OFF passenger airbag switch, and passenger airbag warning light were present in my original airbag unit, but at the time I did this retrofitting there was no info on the VCDS adaptation channels for these units.
The new airbag units are expensive, so you will have to check if your original airbag unit can support the switch and light once you make the wiring installation and change the values in the adaptation channels.
I will be very grateful if you publish the results with a report. TIA.
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:07 pm
by Franciswat
iichel wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:50 pm
I don't think that's possible.
If a new to buy a new airbag unit I don't like the cost benefit for me
ciclo wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:57 pmThe new airbag units are expensive, so you will have to check if your original airbag unit can support the switch and light once you make the wiring installation and change the values in the adaptation channels.
I will be very grateful if you publish the results with a report. TIA.
When I'll disassembly the car to install the climatronic I'll check my airbag unit and will post more details. I'd like to install the switch but only if I do not have to buy a new unit! Of course I will let you know about it mate even because I will need your help for the adaptation.
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:24 pm
by benzinkopf
Just to make this interesting. I did try installing the switch and manage to see the button light up when switching the switch. There re pins in my airbag controller too. But i didn’t able to change the coding/adaptation with vcds last time. And then, i went to Service Centre to seek help even with online programming. But still its not able to code. Somehow the airbag really only accept any change when its new. So i have to take out all the wiring again.
Well, maybe there’s new development going on with VCDS now. maybe its possible. I would like to know as well!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:02 pm
by ciclo
benzinkopf wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:24 pm
Just to make this interesting. I did try installing the switch and manage to see the button light up when switching the switch. There re pins in my airbag controller too. But i didn’t able to change the coding/adaptation with vcds last time. And then, i went to Service Centre to seek help even with online programming. But still its not able to code. Somehow the airbag really only accept any change when its new. So i have to take out all the wiring again.
Well, maybe there’s new development going on with VCDS now. maybe its possible. I would like to know as well!
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Now I am even more curious to know if my original airbag unit could accept the changes in the adaptation channels (with ODIS or another tool).
If I were able to do it I would sell it for a million smiles.
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:16 pm
by benzinkopf
please do!! its just so expensive to change the airbag module here for the function[emoji23].ps: i havent manage to buy the HBA mirror yet!
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Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:02 am
by ciclo
Now I am focused on several retrofits for my wife's Golf (I am sure you will like them), discovering very interesting things ...
For the 6R I am looking forward to installing the CC Emulator for the MFSW CC, but it will still take some more time. I will install a new BCM Max (0.1 sec to do it) and I will have to find time for my original Airbag unit (you know, the central tunnel, etc
).
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:01 pm
by Franciswat
Guys do you know if 6C1857097 switch works as well as 6R1857097 on Polo 6R?
Re: Franciswat's Polo 6R 1.6 Bifuel
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:46 am
by Franciswat
Hi guys and happy new 2020
Actually the new year did not start very well for me
since few hours ago both my lowbeams, DLRs and half of internal lights do not work anymore!
That happened once I started the car and turned on lights as always.. instantly bulb warning on IC and lights off! I had to turn on fog lights and cornering lights to go home!
Autoscan revealed an open circuit error.
Can you guys please suggest me what to check a part from the fuses? Thanks
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01:45 01/01/2020Tuesday,31,December,2019,18:52:26:39744
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0
Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY541234 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 6R (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 44 55 56 0B
VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY541234 Mileage: 101360km-62982miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BC HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0002
Revision: --------
Coding: 210224E3217100B5842524E484D700401300
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
VCID: 00085B4297984341E9-8054
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels: None
Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 N HW: 6R0 820 045 N
Component: Man AC H02 0202
Revision: 0003SH02
VCID: 397EF6A6B0C2D289EE-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0736
Revision: B9080001 Serial number: 0771 060161479
Coding: 3CB02BBF08E1240092380E916C6B0DD9DAC0672F608D30D0200000030000
Shop #: WSC 02737 534 00190
VCID: 68D863E29BE89B0141-803C
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AB HW: 6R0 959 801 AB Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU004011200011991
Coding: 18BC30
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AD HW: 6R0 959 802 AD Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU005011200017885
Coding: 08BC30
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H01 0008
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 A
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0103
Coding: 000000
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 1K8 959 442 HW: 1K8 959 442
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H04 0103
Serial number: 29170002240760027504
Coding: A40000
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 G HW: 6R0 959 811 G
Component: J388__TSG_HL 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU010011200012406
Coding: 08BC32
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 G HW: 6R0 959 812 G
Component: J389__TSG_HR 008 1611
Serial number: KU0KU009011200013136
Coding: 08BC32
2 Faults Found:
01516 - Terminal 30; Left
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 186
Mileage: 101369 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.05.23
Time: 18:47:15
00927 - Terminal 30 (Right)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 186
Mileage: 101369 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2014.05.23
Time: 18:47:15
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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels: 7E0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 L HW: 56D 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H02 0106
Revision: -------- Serial number: 20231629400567
Coding: 108001
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW57XParkAssis8K 001003
ROD: N/A
VCID: 3B72ECAEB2FEE099FC-806E
No ASAM data for: "EV_VW57XParkAssis8K" (VW25)
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K HW: 6R0 959 655 K
Component: VW10Airbag022 H09 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003GX011W0JJ
Coding: 003232
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbvAW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: N/A
VCID: 4A9CB96AED24491177-801E
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 3575HRB4059124B2F99H
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3585HRB4061131GQCOUS
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 3515RRB405P0VC0I5P0W
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 3525RRB40510VC0IA9B9
No ASAM data for: "EV_AirbvAW10BPAVW250" (VW25)
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 871 A HW: 6R0 920 871 A
Component: KOMBI H03 0505
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 140E01
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04113
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_A04_VW25.rod
VCID: 3460C7929FA02FE13D-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: None
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H80 0736
Revision: B9080001
Coding: 002200
Shop #: WSC 02737 534 00190
VCID: 68D863E29BE89B0141-803C
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H03 0505
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoU_DS_VDD_RM09 A03009
ROD: N/A
VCID: 6ADC19EA8DE4A91157-803E
No ASAM data for: "EV_ImmoU_DS_VDD_RM09" (VW36 *)
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 B
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V277
Coding: 11250
Shop #: WSC 00788
VCID: 2F6AC8FEEA860C3940-807A
No fault code found.
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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431) Labels: 6R0-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 HW: 6R0 907 357
Component: LWR-ECU H02 0070
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 0110000001000000
Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt 001004
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRPt_VW25.rod
VCID: 77FA309ECE5604F9D8-8022
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels: None
Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B HW: 6RD 035 187 B
Component: Radio 541 5522
Revision: -------- Serial number: VWZZZ4K6200530
Coding: 16000400040006
Shop #: WSC 127395 840 08317
VCID: 46848D5AF13CAD7193-8012
No fault code found.
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