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Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:06 am
by Adam_013
Don't know if anyone else has the VW dataplug, but there is a challenge on there.

Over 7 miles under 2k rpm. Even myself around flatter areas the difference between 1st and 2nd makes it impossible.

Its simple, VW buggered up the gearing on the polo.

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Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:10 am
by silverhairs
I was given one of those data plugs when I picked up my Polo, trouble is, I don't have a smart phone to use with it. It don't work with my land line.

Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:16 am
by Adam_013
silverhairs wrote:I was given one of those data plugs when I picked up my Polo, trouble is, I don't have a smart phone to use with it. It don't work with my land line.
[emoji23][emoji23] Well, fair enough. Suppose if you had a rather long retractable cable you could hook it up? [emoji23]

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Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:24 am
by Andy Beats
I can't get the hang of the data plug thing.
It seems to me it only works when you're in the car?
It doesn't seem to update when you're out of the car, which renders it of little/no use to me.
It's not a patch on the Nissan Leaf app, which gave you all sorts of useful info and features anywhere.

Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:38 am
by Adam_013
Andy Beats wrote:I can't get the hang of the data plug thing.
It seems to me it only works when you're in the car?
It doesn't seem to update when you're out of the car, which renders it of little/no use to me.
It's not a patch on the Nissan Leaf app, which gave you all sorts of useful info anywhere.
I agree... Its a Bluetooth connection, think the idea is simply so you can see your 'stats' out of the car... Doesn't really do a lot

Is guess the higher spec would allow more?

The Volvo on call found on the S60 is far better, as likely was the one for your leaf.

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Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:45 am
by Andy Beats
Adam_013 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:38 am
Andy Beats wrote:I can't get the hang of the data plug thing.
It seems to me it only works when you're in the car?
It doesn't seem to update when you're out of the car, which renders it of little/no use to me.
It's not a patch on the Nissan Leaf app, which gave you all sorts of useful info anywhere.
I agree... Its a Bluetooth connection, think the idea is simply so you can see your 'stats' out of the car... Doesn't really do a lot

Is guess the higher spec would allow more?

The Volvo on call found on the S60 is far better, as likely was the one for your leaf.

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So should it update out of the car?
It seems pointless if you need to update it and view it in the car.

Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:02 am
by Adam_013
Andy Beats wrote:
Adam_013 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:38 am
Andy Beats wrote:I can't get the hang of the data plug thing.
It seems to me it only works when you're in the car?
It doesn't seem to update when you're out of the car, which renders it of little/no use to me.
It's not a patch on the Nissan Leaf app, which gave you all sorts of useful info anywhere.
I agree... Its a Bluetooth connection, think the idea is simply so you can see your 'stats' out of the car... Doesn't really do a lot

Is guess the higher spec would allow more?

The Volvo on call found on the S60 is far better, as likely was the one for your leaf.

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So should it update out of the car?
It seems pointless if you need to update it and view it in the car.
No it's not, it only tells you the data it retrieved the last time you was in it. So if someone else went out in the car, your phone wouldn't be updated

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Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:33 am
by Andy Beats
Adam_013 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:02 am No it's not, it only tells you the data it retrieved the last time you was in it. So if someone else went out in the car, your phone wouldn't be updated
So should it update every time it's in the car?
Mine clearly isn't, the mileage on it is about 1000 miles less than it should be.
TBH I think I might just delete it, it's useless.

Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:47 am
by Adam_013
It doesn't do anything special, and in your case, nothing at all!

Its meant to update, relying it's plugged in and connected.

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Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:53 am
by Andy Beats
Adam_013 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:47 am It doesn't do anything special, and in your case, nothing at all!

Its meant to update, relying it's plugged in and connected.
That's it deleted, waste of time.

Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:58 pm
by monkeyhanger
At the end of the day it's VW spyware.

It's like free social apps such as Facebook- people put their lives on there. If you're using something like Facebook or the data plug - you are the product, freely handing out info for the companies to mine and use.

In this case, VW can analyse usage of the car, real mpg, average speeds etc. It may well be transmitting a whole host of data to VW via your phone's data allowance that is completely opaque to the app. Maybe it can tell when and where you've been hammering your car via GPS data.

I put it on to check battery highs and lows during mild and cold weather, daily and after a weekend of inactivity.

The only other useful thing is the suggestion that you may be able to have a heater retrofitted so you don't have to wait for the oil to be warm before you can blow warm air into the cabin. I'm assuming those with climatronic have one in their system already (can anyone with climatronic confirm that they have immediate access to vented warm air?). I have it on my Golf R, and that certainly has preventing.

Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:06 pm
by Andy Beats
monkeyhanger wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:58 pm At the end of the day it's VW spyware.

It's like free social apps such as Facebook- people put their lives on there. If you're using something like Facebook or the data plug - you are the product, freely handing out info for the companies to mine and use.

In this case, VW can analyse usage of the car, real mpg, average speeds etc. It may well be transmitting a whole host of data to VW via your phone's data allowance that is completely opaque to the app. Maybe it can tell when and where you've been hammering your car via GPS data.

I put it on to check battery highs and lows during mild and cold weather, daily and after a weekend of inactivity.

The only other useful thing is the suggestion that you may be able to have a heater retrofitted so you don't have to wait for the oil to be warm before you can blow warm air into the cabin. I'm assuming those with climatronic have one in their system already (can anyone with climatronic confirm that they have immediate access to vented warm air?). I have it on my Golf R, and that certainly has preventing.
Can the 'widget' plugged into the OBD port be removed easily enough?
I don't want it in there if I'm not using the crap app.
Or, if I unplug it, am I suddenly going to find myself bathed in light and surrounded by armed guards with dogs?

Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:07 pm
by Adam_013
Andy Beats wrote:
monkeyhanger wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:58 pm At the end of the day it's VW spyware.

It's like free social apps such as Facebook- people put their lives on there. If you're using something like Facebook or the data plug - you are the product, freely handing out info for the companies to mine and use.

In this case, VW can analyse usage of the car, real mpg, average speeds etc. It may well be transmitting a whole host of data to VW via your phone's data allowance that is completely opaque to the app. Maybe it can tell when and where you've been hammering your car via GPS data.

I put it on to check battery highs and lows during mild and cold weather, daily and after a weekend of inactivity.

The only other useful thing is the suggestion that you may be able to have a heater retrofitted so you don't have to wait for the oil to be warm before you can blow warm air into the cabin. I'm assuming those with climatronic have one in their system already (can anyone with climatronic confirm that they have immediate access to vented warm air?). I have it on my Golf R, and that certainly has preventing.
Can the 'widget' plugged into the OBD port be removed easily enough?
I don't want it in there if I'm not using the crap app.
Or, if I unplug it, am I suddenly going to find myself bathed in light and surrounded by armed guards with dogs?
Yup, if you look underneath your dash (near the accelerator pedal) you'll see it. Its white and says VW data plug on it. Just pull it out

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Re: 1.0 TSI 95 how do you drive it?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:17 pm
by Andy Beats
Adam_013 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:07 pm Yup, if you look underneath your dash (near the accelerator pedal) you'll see it. Its white and says VW data plug on it. Just pull it out
Cheers