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Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:46 pm
by Stuart_Rendall
Rosinfield wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:25 am Here a graph of a Polo GTI (not mine) chipped by VagTechniek. Stage 1+ means stage 1 with optimization based on rollerbank results50D9E8C4-0BF9-4D9B-A6B5-98B61C71E367.jpeg
They're some really good figures for stage 1

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:33 pm
by Andy Beats
I'm loving that fat torque curve
That would make a world of difference.

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:03 pm
by Jackgti
Agreed. Do you know if the stock DSG6 gearbox has a torque limit? Or does it need a remap do handle the increase

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:53 pm
by Rosinfield

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:00 pm
by Jackgti
Rosinfield wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:53 pm https://youtu.be/NDSjh-R8l2c
Interesting stuff. I’ve heard a DSG tune goes a long way and helps with power delivery.

I am sat here fighting with myself on whether to get it done, wish I could drive one with a stage 1 to see the difference and whether it’s worth it

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:32 pm
by S_94
Jackgti wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:00 pm
Rosinfield wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:53 pm https://youtu.be/NDSjh-R8l2c
Interesting stuff. I’ve heard a DSG tune goes a long way and helps with power delivery.

I am sat here fighting with myself on whether to get it done, wish I could drive one with a stage 1 to see the difference and whether it’s worth it
In the same boat. Want to find someone reliable.

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:23 am
by Rosinfield
Jackgti wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:00 pm
Rosinfield wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:53 pm https://youtu.be/NDSjh-R8l2c
Interesting stuff. I’ve heard a DSG tune goes a long way and helps with power delivery.

I am sat here fighting with myself on whether to get it done, wish I could drive one with a stage 1 to see the difference and whether it’s worth it
You can drive mine, but then you have to come over to the Netherlands ;) But I can strongly recommand it. This engine really needs a chip. And the combination with a DSG tune makes it really perfect. Essential is to have it done by a renowned VAG specialized company. In the Netherlands you can count them on one hand. I don't know about the UK

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:33 am
by Jackgti
Rosinfield wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:23 am
Jackgti wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:00 pm
Rosinfield wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:53 pm https://youtu.be/NDSjh-R8l2c
Interesting stuff. I’ve heard a DSG tune goes a long way and helps with power delivery.

I am sat here fighting with myself on whether to get it done, wish I could drive one with a stage 1 to see the difference and whether it’s worth it
You can drive mine, but then you have to come over to the Netherlands ;) But I can strongly recommand it. This engine really needs a chip. And the combination with a DSG tune makes it really perfect. Essential is to have it done by a renowned VAG specialized company. In the Netherlands you can count them on one hand. I don't know about the UK
This is the issue, so many dealers just using someone’s product,I want it done now but I’m very very skeptical. Like it all these companies can offer a stage one with 250bhp and 420nm, why are companies like racing line and revo so slow behind?

Has anyone here or on this forum ever used “quantum tuning” ?

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:15 am
by Jackgti
S_94 wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:32 pm
Jackgti wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:00 pm
Rosinfield wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:53 pm https://youtu.be/NDSjh-R8l2c
Interesting stuff. I’ve heard a DSG tune goes a long way and helps with power delivery.

I am sat here fighting with myself on whether to get it done, wish I could drive one with a stage 1 to see the difference and whether it’s worth it
In the same boat. Want to find someone reliable.
I’ve been doing some research recently and found a couple companies in the Uk who do tuning with reputable companies, there’s on a little out the way for me but I’m willing to travel and they offer both APR tuning and TVS engineering tuning both I’ve looked up are very good.

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:05 pm
by Rosinfield
TVS is a Dutch company renowned for solving all kind of DSG issues. AKA the dsg doctor

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:17 pm
by Jackgti
Rosinfield wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:05 pm TVS is a Dutch company renowned for solving all kind of DSG issues. AKA the dsg doctor
TVS ENGINEERING STAGE 1 and stage 1 dsg remap providing 430nm and 260bhp £900 here on a dyno

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:50 am
by Rosinfield
That's a lot. At Vag Techniek it costed me £ 695, DSG stage 2 included

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:40 am
by Stuart_Rendall
Jackgti wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:17 pm
Rosinfield wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:05 pm TVS is a Dutch company renowned for solving all kind of DSG issues. AKA the dsg doctor
TVS ENGINEERING STAGE 1 and stage 1 dsg remap providing 430nm and 260bhp £900 here on a dyno
Does seem quite expensive. All the well reviews tuning locations close to me charge between £300 and £400 for the ECU tune and a further £300 for a DSG remap.

Those performance numbers do look healthy though.

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:25 am
by Jackgti
Stuart_Rendall wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:40 am
Jackgti wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:17 pm
Rosinfield wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:05 pm TVS is a Dutch company renowned for solving all kind of DSG issues. AKA the dsg doctor
TVS ENGINEERING STAGE 1 and stage 1 dsg remap providing 430nm and 260bhp £900 here on a dyno
Does seem quite expensive. All the well reviews tuning locations close to me charge between £300 and £400 for the ECU tune and a further £300 for a DSG remap.

Those performance numbers do look healthy though.
Yeah so the £900 includes dyno time, not sure how much that costs, the remap is £399 and the dsg remap is £349 so dyno is about £150 extra?

Currently contacting another company that offer the same service but seeing how they price it.

Re: Polo GTI Stage 1 Remap

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:49 am
by Jackgti
Rosinfield wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:50 am That's a lot. At Vag Techniek it costed me £ 695, DSG stage 2 included
When you had yours done, what figures is your car pumping out?

Does it feel much different?

The 260bhp and 455nm torque from TVS is on 99ron fuel which is like shell vpower here in the UK which is what I use anyway so I’m hoping to feel a good difference.