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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:31 pm
by ciclo
haha! ... you already know that for me the first thing is the diagnosis.
Maybe there is a nice way to install LED bulbs for blinkers.

(under test)
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:36 pm
by CNK
ciclo wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:31 pm
haha! ... you already know that for me the first thing is the diagnosis.
Maybe there is a nice way to install LED bulbs for blinkers.

(under test)
I think, in BCM PQ25 it's imposible to coding LED blinkers like in BCM PQ35 from VW Golf (for blinkers, taillights etc.)
but I believe in you, you are a wizard, so you will probably find a way

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:07 pm
by iichel
maybe VCP will bring a solution. you can disable some errors for lights.
i don't think VCDS can manage this, the diagnostics will not prevent hyperflashing.
i found some info on byte 18 a while ago:
Byte 18 Bit 0~7 00 Light Setup: Standard/Parameter Settings (EEPROM)
Byte 18 Bit 0-1 01 Model parking light: 5W + 5W (Ausführung Standlicht: 5W+5W)
Byte 18 Bit 3-4 00 Indicator lights: 21W/21W/5W (Ausführung Blinkleuchten: 21W/21W/5W)
Byte 18 Bit 5 Output high beam active (Ausgang Fernlicht aktiv)
Byte 18 Bit 6-7 40 Brake lights: 21W/21W/5W (Ausführung Bremsleuchten: 21W/21W/5W)\
that came from here:
http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread. ... post103129
but it doesn't allow LED for indicator or position lights without errors.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:23 pm
by Adam87
Thanks Fernando, probably 5N0 bracket might be able to be fixed easier [emoji848] I’ll have to get underneath again and have a look at possible mounting points
iichel wrote:maybe VCP will bring a solution. you can disable some errors for lights.
i don't think VCDS can manage this, the diagnostics will not prevent hyperflashing.
i found some info on byte 18 a while ago:
Byte 18 Bit 0~7 00 Light Setup: Standard/Parameter Settings (EEPROM)
Byte 18 Bit 0-1 01 Model parking light: 5W + 5W (Ausführung Standlicht: 5W+5W)
Byte 18 Bit 3-4 00 Indicator lights: 21W/21W/5W (Ausführung Blinkleuchten: 21W/21W/5W)
Byte 18 Bit 5 Output high beam active (Ausgang Fernlicht aktiv)
Byte 18 Bit 6-7 40 Brake lights: 21W/21W/5W (Ausführung Bremsleuchten: 21W/21W/5W)\
that came from here:
http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread. ... post103129
but it doesn't allow LED for indicator or position lights without errors.
Good info Michel, I was looking for ages to try and find byte 18 bit descriptions
I wish there was a solution, I have installed rear LED indicators, I don’t have a bulb warning but I do get hyper flashing, it’s annoying!
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:24 am
by ciclo
Adam87 wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:23 pm
Thanks Fernando, probably 5N0 bracket might be able to be fixed easier [emoji848] I’ll have to get underneath again and have a look at possible mounting points
Note the explanation on pg 31 (SSP 541)
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3450#p522430 , however, for inform you, I have my TPMS unit almost in the center line and the antenna (J502) immediately locates the sensors in a correct way.
for example

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:01 pm
by explorer232
Hi, I bought bcm max 7e0937090B because I want to retrofit new mib navigation unit. I have already prepared mib unit, now all functions are working outside car, cp removed, but after connecting to car there is problem with communication with gateway. Standard pq25 bcm (from 2011) doesnt support new infotainment module 5F. Fault, no communication with 5F module so I need new gateway but after checking wirring diagrams there is different wirring for new bcm, OK but I am lazy so I am findig another solution. I think that there is really needed only new wirring from bcm to instrument cluster (separate can bus) because lights are configurable by eeprom modification. VCP have implemented pq25 param editor. I dont need auto lights so for me is better change config in eeprom. I will try it on the desk with only bcm connected.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:30 pm
by iichel
I don't know your exact car, but I'm guessing external gateway with 6R0 937 088x BCM?
I you fit a 7E0 937 090 B for its compatibility with 5F, that would make sense. But remember, this BCM has the gateway integrated.
How to replace external gateway by internal gateway in 7E0 BCM Max -->
https://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php? ... 49#p528549
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:15 pm
by explorer232
iichel wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:30 pm
I don't know your exact car, but I'm guessing external gateway with 6R0 937 088x BCM?
I you fit a 7E0 937 090 B for its compatibility with 5F, that would make sense. But remember, this BCM has the gateway integrated.
How to replace external gateway by internal gateway in 7E0 BCM Max -->
https://www.uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php? ... 49#p528549
Hi, I have (6R0937087H BCM) with internal gateway in bcm and yes I bought 7E0937090B because internal gateway have support for 5F module but I dont know at the moment If standard mib module will be working with 7E0937090B gateway because there is no car in the world with standard mib + pq25 platform only mib-pq + pq25/pq35. Standard mib (separate display + main mib unit) only in mqb platform.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:27 pm
by iichel
Ah okay, now i have a better understanding. 6R0 937 087H bcm high to 7E0 937 090B BCM Max.
I don't know whether VCP is capable of these matters, of configuring BCM max as BCM high.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:42 pm
by explorer232
iichel wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:27 pm
Ah okay, now i have a better understanding. 6R0 937 087H bcm high to 7E0 937 090B BCM Max.
I don't know whether VCP is capable of these matters, of configuring BCM max as BCM high.
I need only reconfigure gpio port functions or reconfigure dtc masking for lights. VCP pq25 param editor is editing eeprom in cpu. 6R0 937 087H and 7E0 937 090B is still similar hw only part number in eeprom, fw version, populated pins in connector and eeprom config is difference so I think that its possible write firmware from 7E0937090B to 6R093708x. I am waiting for bcm connectors and then I will to make some research.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:21 pm
by gtsportms
ciclo wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:17 pm
gtsportms wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:08 pm
ciclo wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:05 am
New static cornering lights bulbs
Try a H7 LED, its much brighter
Thank you for your advice... but you forget the CAN bus system.
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/2PC-LED- ... 0.0.shyXzV
no error in IC or Diagnosis
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:37 am
by ciclo
Ok, thank you very much gtsportms, I'll have to do a more detailed search to find a color temperature that matches with my xenon. 6000K maybe it's too much.
Meanwhile I will test the Osram Laser Night Breaker, although I will surely have to install one of those LED model.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:50 am
by ciclo
explorer232 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:42 pm
iichel wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:27 pm
Ah okay, now i have a better understanding. 6R0 937 087H bcm high to 7E0 937 090B BCM Max.
I don't know whether VCP is capable of these matters, of configuring BCM max as BCM high.
I need only reconfigure gpio port functions or reconfigure dtc masking for lights. VCP pq25 param editor is editing eeprom in cpu. 6R0 937 087H and 7E0 937 090B is still similar hw only part number in eeprom, fw version, populated pins in connector and eeprom config is difference so I think that its possible write firmware from 7E0937090B to 6R093708x. I am waiting for bcm connectors and then I will to make some research.
Try it with the fw of a BCM 7E0..090 /B/C from
Transporter T6, not all firmwares of 7E0..090 /B/C are equal.
Please keep us informed.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:43 pm
by ciclo
This weekend...
- VW dealer.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OSRAM-Night- ... 2749.l2649
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-POLO-09-PA ... 1438.l2649
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viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58703&start=3990#p529179

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502) Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 H HW: 5Q0 907 273
Component: RDKBERU30 H04 0012
Serial number: 30000000034843
ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 006001
ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_003.rod
VCID: 394680BB733D29D346-806C
No fault code found.
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From H to F and parameters edition.
Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:23 am
by benzinkopf
wow a new type of license plate light? from that design, sure the brightness is great and light distribution must be good!
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