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Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:16 am
by iichel
not sure, perhaps it's the connector for the front sensors.

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:03 am
by heftyshooly
Connector A is the one with only 18 positions, that's the one you're missing. It only connects to the front sensors, everything else is in the 26-pin connector.

As for accessing the power steering module, you don't need to remove the steering wheel, just twist it 90 degrees so that the flat top aligns with the bolt that you're trying to remove. After removing the top and bottom trim pieces, try and locate the power steering connectors. You might want to remove the fuse box as well, as accessing these connectors with it in place is tricky. There are two connectors, one is for power, the other one has the CAN lines (1: CANL, 2: CANH, 3: Terminal 15).

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:50 am
by RUM4MO
Just one other thing, and to anyone that knows better than me, I'm sorry if I'm wrong so please correct me,but, any VW Group parking controller module I have seen that has only rear sensor functionality only has one arrow printed on to it, the ones I's seen with rear and front sensor functionality has always had 2 arrows printed onto them.

But, please correct me if I'm wrong someone as I'm only trying to help this poster!

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:45 am
by iichel
RUM4MO wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:50 am Just one other thing, and to anyone that knows better than me, I'm sorry if I'm wrong so please correct me,but, any VW Group parking controller module I have seen that has only rear sensor functionality only has one arrow printed on to it, the ones I's seen with rear and front sensor functionality has always had 2 arrows printed onto them.

But, please correct me if I'm wrong someone as I'm only trying to help this poster!
Nowadays the 4K version is a 8K module with 4 front sensors disabled

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:06 am
by Homer51
heftyshooly wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:03 am Connector A is the one with only 18 positions, that's the one you're missing. It only connects to the front sensors, everything else is in the 26-pin connector.

As for accessing the power steering module, you don't need to remove the steering wheel, just twist it 90 degrees so that the flat top aligns with the bolt that you're trying to remove. After removing the top and bottom trim pieces, try and locate the power steering connectors. You might want to remove the fuse box as well, as accessing these connectors with it in place is tricky. There are two connectors, one is for power, the other one has the CAN lines (1: CANL, 2: CANH, 3: Terminal 15).
Hi, thanks for your full answer :wink:

The missing connector, maybe, but i bought a 4k module, so i'm surprise, but if not needed it's ok for me.

For the steering wheel, yes ! true ! i can access now to the bolts.
i'm going to have a look to this connector, i take picture from upper before removing bottom piece, can h/l are not present in theses connector right ?

For the color, it's orange/green and orange/brown ?

Thanks !

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:25 pm
by Homer51
heftyshooly wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:03 am
......... the other one has the CAN lines (1: CANL, 2: CANH, 3: Terminal 15).

In my picture can you tell me where is can bus H and low under steering wheel .

Thanks !!!!! :D

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:42 pm
by iichel
you need to dig further towards the engine

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:46 pm
by Homer51
iichel wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:42 pm you need to dig further towards the engine
Yes ! i see :) , but i don't know which cable is high and low, any idea ?

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:02 pm
by iichel
orange/black is high
orange/brown is low

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:10 pm
by Homer51
iichel wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:02 pm orange/black is high
orange/brown is low
Thanks !

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:23 pm
by Homer51
I change my wire can high & low, so now i've got park assist sound and detection Ok.

But no ops on my radio, the menu parking is always not available :(

In log with vcds i'ge got many errors,

I don't think i've got multiple mount, only 12v and ground are same for park module and rear camera (china reverse model)
i remove all coding for park module, because doesn't work on my radio (china model special polo 6c) and crash my reverse logo camera (doesn't show anymore)

Any idea ? i really don't know where to search now :(


on Gateway 19 :

66304 - Bus de données
U1124 00 [009] - Montage multiple détecté
[Nouveauté! Infos étendues pour DTCs UDS seulement avec nouvelle génération d'interfaces]
Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 2
Fréquence du défaut: 1
Compteur de RAZ: 43
Kilométrage: 59002 km
Date: 2021.10.27
Temps: 18:15:12

Tension d'alimentation borne 30: 12.3 V
Etat immo-Esclaves / Borne 15: OFF


7169 - Fonctionnement limité en raison de l'absence de message
U1111 00 [009] - -
[Nouveauté! Infos étendues pour DTCs UDS seulement avec nouvelle génération d'interfaces]
Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 6
Fréquence du défaut: 1
Compteur de RAZ: 43
Kilométrage: 59002 km
Date: 2021.10.27
Temps: 18:14:18

BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 16
Tension borne 30: 12.1 V

5F
16777018 - Fonctionnement limité en raison d'un problème de communication
U1110 00 [009] - -
[Nouveauté! Infos étendues pour DTCs UDS seulement avec nouvelle génération d'interfaces]
Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 6
Fréquence du défaut: 1
Compteur de RAZ: 43
Kilométrage: 59002 km
Date: 2021.10.27
Temps: 18:14:18

Adresse 17: Instruments Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
No. VAG du calculateur: 6C0 920 740 A Mat: 6C0 920 740 A
Pièce et/ou version: KOMBI 211 0290
Codage logiciel: 072509002180000800082A001000000000000000
Code atelier: WSC 00788 648 00255
Jeu de données ASAM: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009040 (VW26)
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 204F55873BC3EA8632-8074
1 Code défaut trouvé:

16777018 - Fonctionnement limité en raison d'un problème de communication
U1110 00 [009] - -
[Nouveauté! Infos étendues pour DTCs UDS seulement avec nouvelle génération d'interfaces]
Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire
Capture:
Etat du défaut: 00000001
Priorité du défaut: 6
Fréquence du défaut: 1
Compteur de RAZ: 43
Kilométrage: 59002 km
Date: 2021.10.27
Temps: 18:14:18

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:13 pm
by Homer51
Finally it works ! :D I don't have in same time cam & park assist, it's impossible with my unit.

Thanks to all for your support !

I've got errors in log, but working like that.. So i don't touch anymore. Next step, changing language to French for this Ali 330 6C unit.

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:48 am
by Homer51
Bad surprise this morning, no battery :cry:

I think it comes from my wrong +12v after ignition (for park-assist and rear camera)

i found maybe a +12v after ignition on my photo, i'm good ? or i must connect on another place ?

Thanks !

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:59 am
by iichel
i suppose the easiest way to check this, is with a multimeter

Re: Retrofit park pilote 8K OPS for polo 6C 2015 [help]

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:08 am
by Homer51
i've got 0.0400 after ignition off, not 0v, could be ok ?