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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:28 pm
by ciclo
tomshep wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:08 pm The three pot TSI 90 is a truly amazing engine. My little Up! returned over 70 MPG over hilly country yesterday .I did the calculations and I think it is a good 15 Horsepower over the quoted output and that is at the wheels! Certainly I won't be tuning it soon, despite several 500 mile runs undertaken so far. Thanks to ciclo, I drove it for 200 miles without the use of my feet across France last Saturday. I am really enjoying the cruise control.
The trouble is, the success of this has set me tinkering and now I want to fit the Optical parking and a camera. All the bits are here, except one and I am itching to get started before the cold nights and gloomy weather on my part of the planet make me think of staying in the warm.
Ciclo, may I enlist your help once more, please? I need to know the connection between the five way plug on the back bumper and the control box which is a
1S0 919 475 A. I have worked out how to patch seamlessly into the powertrain CANBUS at the BCM by making a custom connector because I don't like cutting into wires if it can be avoided and I have, thanks to iichel acquired the sixteen way connector and it is wired up to the power, squawker and CANBUS.
A rear bumper loom arrived but not the loom from it to the control box. In my ignorance, I didn't know I'd need one!
I'm going to be experimental with the camera. I bought one with a built in gyro to control the lines. They look a bit of an afterthought though so I have bought a tiny and powerful servo as well and am designing a retract mechanism so it can disappear into the bumper.
Woman Belong Me doesn't understand why I should buy a new car and pull it to pieces but I have been doing it for 45 years now so it has become part of my DNA.
Shortly I send you by private message all the wiring diagrams belonging to VW UP (2011->2017) look in your inbox, click on the link and download the PDF. (I think you'll like it and it will help you, ...I don't know if your wife?* would like you to have this information :lol:)

Once you open the PDF document... some notes in this image:
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https://imgur.com/1Swsnn5

*It's not necessary to answer. I still have to learn many uses and customs of the English language. :)

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:41 pm
by tomshep
Thank you Very much. That will keep me in mischief for some time!

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:44 pm
by gtsportms
Hey Ciclo,

can you tell my why this?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Dynamisc ... 4725c39-18

wont work on 6R and Only 6C ?

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:46 am
by thealbert
Hi Ciclo, I saw that you only changed the back springs to lower it a little!
I wanted to know if you know the code also of the front springs to combine with those you have put?
Thank you

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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:57 am
by ciclo
gtsportms wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:44 pm Hey Ciclo,

can you tell my why this?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Dynamisc ... 4725c39-18

wont work on 6R and Only 6C ?
They should work equally in 6Rs.

In other markets (Russia, China, etc) 6Rs were sold with mirrors without indicators, for these 6R models the side indicators were embedded in the vehicle sides ... maybe/likely the seller is warning not to buy for these 6R models.

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:29 am
by ciclo
thealbert wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:46 am Hi Ciclo, I saw that you only changed the back springs to lower it a little!
I wanted to know if you know the code also of the front springs to combine with those you have put?
Thank you

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I don't know, the rear springs of my R-line are from BlueGT. 6Q0511115CK PR-1JS+0YE

I guess you should choose front springs with PR code G12, but there are many different, from PR code L45 upto L51, +L55.
Now I don't have the info about these PR codes since I recently changed my laptop and I haven't installed the ELSA yet.

I hope someone helps us with this.

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:54 am
by CNK
gtsportms wrote: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:44 pm Hey Ciclo,

can you tell my why this?

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/Dynamisc ... 4725c39-18

wont work on 6R and Only 6C ?
I like it, here little cheaper: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-Vol ... 02202.html :lol:

IMO this should fit to our 6R. i don't know why, but they also sell normal mirrors with non dynamic indicator: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Brand-N ... 61c44su4zu
and in description there is also info, they fit only to 2014-2016 models.

But on uk-polos I read, that folding mirrors from 6C fit to 6R, so they should be the same :)

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:26 pm
by ag69
just curious if they are manually foldable or electronically foldable?

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:51 pm
by CNK
i think it's only bottom part of mirror, and both:
1. https://aliexpress.com/item/Dynamische- ... 77301.html (80.99 USD)
2. https://de.aliexpress.com/item/F-r-Volk ... 02202.html (76.49 USD)

are dynamic, probably we can use only LED indicator in our genuine mirrors, just plug&play, so if you have foldable mirrors, you can swap LEDs only.
but these are only my guesses, I'm not 100% sure :)

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:47 pm
by ciclo
CNK wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:54 am

I like it, here little cheaper: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-Vol ... 02202.html :lol:

IMO this should fit to our 6R. i don't know why, but they also sell normal mirrors with non dynamic indicator: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Brand-N ... 61c44su4zu
and in description there is also info, they fit only to 2014-2016 models.

But on uk-polos I read, that folding mirrors from 6C fit to 6R, so they should be the same :)
6R & 6C (LHD & RHD) Europe 2010-2018

6R0949101F .... Left
6R0949102F .... Right

So ...

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:55 pm
by ciclo
CNK wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:51 pm i think it's only bottom part of mirror, and both:
1. https://aliexpress.com/item/Dynamische- ... 77301.html (80.99 USD)
2. https://de.aliexpress.com/item/F-r-Volk ... 02202.html (76.49 USD)

are dynamic, probably we can use only LED indicator in our genuine mirrors, just plug&play, so if you have foldable mirrors, you can swap LEDs only.
but these are only my guesses, I'm not 100% sure :)
No problem if the mirrors are foldable to install the whole set of these not OEM dynamic blinkers.

edit
In the feedback of the sale there are two positive opinions. One is from Holland and one from Japan, therefore ...

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:11 am
by iichel
I know a Dutch guy that has them on a 6R Bluemotion. If fits without issues.

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:58 am
by CNK
https://www.alkar.es/en/6149123.html

6C1857507C
6R1857507R
6R0949101F
6R0857521F
6R0857537BGRU

reply from aliexpress seller (JOGON Tuning Store):
our one buyer from Netherlands said it doesn't fit for pre-facelift polo. he bought it, but doesn't fit.
reply from second aliexpress seller (JOGON Motorsports Store):
Sorry, it is suitable and this product is only suitable for 14-17 6C, although they look the same.
...
Some customers have purchased feedback, saying that it is not suitable, so you don’t have to take risks.
so maybe the difference is in indicator connector or something like that? Little strange :x

Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:36 am
by ciclo
strange and funny...
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Re: ciclo's Polo. R-line 1.2 TSI 90hp 119gr.

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:46 am
by CNK
ok, I have more info, new reply from JOGON Tuning Store (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1082272):
I am not sure. Our factory doesn't test it for POLO 6R, Because Chinese version Polo 6R doesn't have turn signal light.

I am not sure if the car computer system and code are different. Our one buyer send me a gif. to show the problem, his car is polo 6R.


they can install it, But it doesn't work properly.
so i think there it's something like LED without CANBUS (Polo 6C has different BCM)


Here is Polo 6R from Netherlands:
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great thanks to guy from the JOGON Tuning Store for quick replies