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Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - Update 28/05/2012

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:47 pm
by Trottagti
Yeah it's a write laugh, I just drift it everywhere in this rain where having and that.... Need more power in it now though hehe. Next is exhaust and a custom air filter with a remap and re-jet...! Crazy.....!

That body needs to open and close and be bigger so on that note, it's doing it's job... Looks very good quality and the manifold will be amazing.

Going to an endless horizon meet at south mimms services Sunday it's all hondas and is an amazing meet. Like a mini show.... Should come down ha

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - Update 28/05/2012

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:14 pm
by 6N2 GTI 00
Sounds quality mate, what power is she running at the moment? I bet the power to weight ratio is already pretty savage
You will have to get some vids up soon, deffo worth investing in one of those Go Pro camera's, I mount mine on the front bumper and the quality is still really good

Yeah the throttle body should do the job nicely, it probably wont give me any big power gains but I should to see 5-6 mid range and maybe 3-4 overall so it's just about worth doing :)

Iye everybody is talking about the south mimms meet on the type r forums, sounds really good but it's a bit too far away from me.
Typical that all the good shows are normally down south lol I think i'll have to move

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - Update 28/05/2012

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:53 am
by 6N2 GTI 00
Car visited TDI North power tuning yesterday for some more work

It's had the RBC Inlet Manifold fitted, S90 70mm throttle body and Hondata K100 ECU :)

Here is my Dyno graph
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The Sports CAT is literally killing my torque and restricting the power too.
Apparently without the CAT it and a more free flowing B-Pipe it would have pulled close to 250bhp and over 170 ft lbs of torque.

VTEC has been lowered to 5200rpm and revs all the way to 8800rpm 8)
Launch control is now active so I can bounce off the limiter at 4K and launch really smoothly :mrgreen: its great fun

I'm really pleased it broke the 240 mark and its still fully road legal which is cool so I wont have any MOT issues etc.
I will seriously consider Toda cams as the next power upgrade though to get it well over 250bhp but that wont happen anytime soon

Current Spec -

Engine
- Tegiwa Carbon Airbox
- Spoon N1
- Supersprint Un-silenced B-Pipe
- Piper 4-2-1 Manifold
- 200 Cell Piper Sports CAT
- RBC Inlet Manifold (Port Matched)
- 70mm Billet Throttle Body (S90)
- Hondata K100 ECU Chip producing 241.8bhp & 163.3 ft lbs of torque (221 Nm)

Chassis
- Eibach Pro Kit Lowering Springs (OEM Shocks)
- Eibach Front Camber Bolts
- Eibach Rear Camber Arms (adjustable)
- Tegiwa Control Arms
- Tegiwa Tie Bar
- JDM Rear Anti Roll Bar
- ABP Motorsport Fast Road Set-Up
- J’s Racing Front Upper Strut Brace

Wheels & Tyres
- OEM Honda 17” Wheels
- 215/40/R17 Yokohoma Prade Spec 2’s (Front & Rear)

Brakes
- eBay Front & Rear Discs (Drilled & Grooved)
- Ferrodo DS2500 Front Pads
- Brembo Rear Pads

Bling
- Carbon Plug Cover (Tegiwa/TDI North)
- Spoon Reservoir Socks x 3
- Red Tegiwa Intake Hose & Red Tegiwa Breather Hose
- Stainless Steel K20 Washer
- Stainless Dome Nuts with Custom Dome Bolts
- Tegiwa Battery Tie
- Mugen Oil Cap
- Mugen Radiator Cap

Exterior
- Pre-Facelift Rear Light Clusters
- Pressed Number Plates with Honda/Mugen Surrounds

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:20 am
by Tim_GTi
Awesome stuff mate, impressive figures, must be very fun drive!

It's hard to gauge scene to scene what modifications are 'the norm' and what makes one stand out.

Is it common to run a CTR to this power? Much like its common to be running 200bhp on a fabia with hybrid turbo. Or is this fairly high spec?

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:19 am
by 6N2 GTI 00
Tim_GTi wrote:Awesome stuff mate, impressive figures, must be very fun drive!

It's hard to gauge scene to scene what modifications are 'the norm' and what makes one stand out.

Is it common to run a CTR to this power? Much like its common to be running 200bhp on a fabia with hybrid turbo. Or is this fairly high spec?
Cheers Tim :D yeah very fun to drive mate, although with it being N/A it can be tiresom at times due to the small power band

Yeah you're right there is a vast difference in modifications from the Honda scene to the VAG Scene, it's strange because the Honda scene is a little different from most Japanese cars due to them being naturally aspirated with the likes of Subaru, Mitsubishi & Nissan it's all about bigger turbo's, FMIC's etc whereas the N/A Honda's struggle to make to big power unless you go down the route of turbos or superchargers.

It is quiet common to get CTR's pushing 240bhp however most people are normally happy with around 220 and a lot don’t bother with mapping they just stick to an exhaust & induction kit. The good thing about the Civic's is the standard airbox, exhaust, inlet & exhaust manifolds are very restrictive so by changing them you get really good gains, certainly more than you would expect from a N/A engine.

You can achieve over 10bhp by fitting an induction kit which is pretty impressive and when you couple that with an exhaust & manifold you’re looking at gains of up to 25bhp over the stock 197. I personally think getting it mapped is essential though because although it doesn’t give huge top end gains the mid range torque is massively improved (up to 35 ft lbs) so it's certainly worthwhile. The downside to owning a Civic and Jap cars in general is the parts are very expensive so sourcing second hand parts is always worthwhile.

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:30 pm
by Moosegirl
What a beast!!! 8)

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:11 pm
by 6N2 GTI 00
Moosegirl wrote:What a beast!!! 8)
Cheers Mandy :) it's a hell of a car to drive now, just got to make sure I dont get carried away and stick to the speed limits 8)

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:47 pm
by Moosegirl
6N2 GTI 00 wrote:
Moosegirl wrote:What a beast!!! 8)
Cheers Mandy :) it's a hell of a car to drive now, just got to make sure I dont get carried away and stick to the speed limits 8)
Haha! Sticking to speed limits will be so hard i bet! 8)

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:01 pm
by Trottagti
I have an actual boner........ Oh I'm getting an s2000 now lol....! So we will he bhp friends. Nearly.

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:26 pm
by 6N2 GTI 00
Trottagti wrote:I have an actual boner........ Oh I'm getting an s2000 now lol....! So we will he bhp friends. Nearly.
Lol! Gotta love VTEC Power mate

Wise choice with the S2000 although an Integra would be equally good
240BHP RWD stock is mental, they are crazy little machines :) there was one at TDI north when I was getting mine mapped running 700bhp on stock internals lol
The S2000 has forged internals so can handle over 600bhp easy 8)

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:38 pm
by Trottagti
Ha, well for the money of a decent dc5 on say a 2001 plate is like £7500 and for a 2005/7 s2000 it's the same so makes sense to get the S.

700bhp is stupid lol! Il only be doing the odd 500..... : p.bet your stocked with pushing 240bhp. I was happy with over 145bhp lol.! Not jel much.........

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:26 am
by Endi_GTI
Nice Ben. Bet your over the moon with the figures. Get a decat and get the thing fully lit :wink:

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:53 am
by 6N2 GTI 00
Trottagti wrote:Ha, well for the money of a decent dc5 on say a 2001 plate is like £7500 and for a 2005/7 s2000 it's the same so makes sense to get the S.

700bhp is stupid lol! Il only be doing the odd 500..... : p.bet your stocked with pushing 240bhp. I was happy with over 145bhp lol.! Not jel much.........
Yeah the DC5's a really expensive to be fair which is a shame, great cars though but the S2000 would be good buy for you

What colour S2000 are you going after mate? The guys at TDI north were basically saying that the S2K is an absolute masterpiece from Honda, perfectly balanced sportscar with probably the best engine they have ever made, that F22C1 engine found in the later AP2 S2K's is epic!

Yeah i'm made up with 240+ brake but I know its never going to be enough :mrgreen: No doubt Toda A3 Cams will be added at some point lol 8)
Endi_GTI wrote:Nice Ben. Bet your over the moon with the figures. Get a decat and get the thing fully lit :wink:
Cheers Matt :) yeah really pleased to be pushing over 240bhp
Bit of shame the torque was not higher but that's just the CAT killing it :(

I would consider a de-cat in the future but I would have to do something about the noise levels first because the car is already too loud now.
I'm thinking of getting a silenced centre section and possibly an exhaust bung for long journeys because although it sounds amazing in the high revs on a motorway run the exhaust drone just echo's through the whole car :lol: Running a De-cat would see me push close to 250bhp and over 170 ft lbs of torque

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:17 pm
by Godderz23
Impressive figures Ben, need to feel a v-tec kicking in sometime :lol:

Re: Ben's Civic EP3 CTR - 241.8bhp

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:01 pm
by 6N2 GTI 00
Godderz23 wrote:Impressive figures Ben, need to feel a v-tec kicking in sometime :lol:
Cheers Chris :)
I told you to drop a K20 in the MK1 mate :wink:

Still not totally satisfied though, TDI North have just produced some Stage 2 camshafts so I can see myself getting them at some point :lol:
The brakes need to be upgraded next I think but that wont happen for a while yet, everything is so god damn expensive for cars these days