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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:00 pm
by CNK
ciclo wrote:I suppose that firstly was installed the instrument cluster and at this moment had no problem. :?:
What ring of steering column has installed, the original or the which was bought with the stalks?

Check the ECU connector, all the contact terminals must be firmly seated in its slot.
... also verifies that all cables for Cruise Control System (T41, BCM, ECU) are in the correct slot.
Yes.. The same error is on the old instrument cluster.

My friend made for me the same wiring as your: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2nv91 ... 90WHc/view

My ECU: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vxhf93r036rtp ... 2.jpg?dl=0 (PIN 24 - https://www.drive2.ru/l/6491454/)


I changed stalks and ring. I bought this stalks:
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It's possible, that used ring is broken?

My old stalks: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9o4eqrkxfeiqb ... 1.jpg?dl=0
My old ring: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8tvbrjfs0kduq ... 7.jpg?dl=0

:(

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:41 pm
by ciclo
You install the original ring and tell us the results.

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:08 pm
by CNK
The new ring to CCS stalks is other than my older ring (like picture 13 from http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/diy-do-yo ... ost3846644 ) but I'll try..

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:19 pm
by ciclo
So you should do the same small change ...

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with your permission gannu_1 :wink:

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:45 pm
by CNK
But ... my ring there is yet another ..

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/8xvnrxctc7dzi ... 8.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4sjkp8cutruec ... 1.jpg?dl=0

Is there any way to connect CCS? :roll:


6R0959654 ring look like this:
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:24 am
by ciclo
Your old ring is different from Gannu_1 because yours is with ESP.
Your old ring Model Year "C" 2012 is different from the new ring because in Model Year D and E 2013-2014 ring and stalks were replaced in Europe, in other places remain for some time, eg India.

The problem is a failure of communication between the ECU and brake system.
Check the continuity of this wire with a multimeter, just to be absolutely certain that the fault is not in that splice.
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Please do this before removing the new ring. (for my curiosity)
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Show us this screen.
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Do the same with your old ring... if you reinstall. Thank you.

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:03 am
by CNK
ciclo wrote: Please do this before removing the new ring. (for my curiosity)
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Show us this screen.
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Do the same with your old ring... if you reinstall. Thank you.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rlwst4hsfuqhr ... 2.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8zjwhf8xmyva9 ... 6.png?dl=0

How do I check continuity of this wire?

Today I noticed that change the speed of the wipers not work. My new stalks and ring probably will not fit into my Polo.. :-(

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:03 am
by ciclo
Ok, thanks for the VCDS screens. :wink:
CNK wrote: Today I noticed that change the speed of the wipers not work. My new stalks and ring probably will not fit into my Polo.. :-(
This is very strange.
Is the connector (T41) fully seated?
The new stalks and new ring should run correctly on your 6R.

Continuity test: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_test
Also search on youtube.
Depending on the tools you have available there are several ways to check a wire. This is one of them:
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Check the sewing pin previously. :mrgreen:
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However, if you're forced to change new stalks and slip ring for any reason, the exact stalks for your old ring are these:
http://www.cars-equipment.com/www/en/sh ... -fabia-vw/

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:18 pm
by ciclo

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:59 am
by CNK
ciclo wrote:Your old ring is different from Gannu_1 because yours is with ESP.
Your old ring Model Year "C" 2012 is different from the new ring because in Model Year D and E 2013-2014 ring and stalks were replaced in Europe, in other places remain for some time, eg India.

The problem is a failure of communication between the ECU and brake system.
Thanks @ciclo!

I cut off the cruise control, I put the old shifters and went back to the old steering wheel.
And I still have the same error:
Accelerator Position Sensor (G79)
P1630 - 000 - Signal too Low - MIL ON
Load Signal
P1857 - 008 - Error Message from ECU
Together with my friend restored the car to its factory settings, but the error remained... We checked the cables connecting the gas pedal to the ECU and it turned out that one of the pins was badly connected in the plug of the ECU. :?

After placing everything and adapt everything works as it should:
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and my new BlueGT instrument cluster:

:D

Regards!

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:32 am
by ciclo
ExcellentImage, two great improvements for your enjoyment.Image

Thank you very much for sharing the process.

At the end it turned out to be what I assumed at first.
ciclo wrote: Check the ECU connector, all the contact terminals must be firmly seated in its slot.
... also verifies that all cables for Cruise Control System (T41, BCM, ECU) are in the correct slot.
I was lucky in the forecast :mrgreen:

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:53 am
by iichel
A few days ago I did the retrofit on a 2012 6R 1.2 TSI with 087 K BCM

No problems at all.

Some images and photos to share:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n9ndexwzued7 ... qwrsa?dl=0
Most pictures are from here but the folder 'Fotos Simon' is something new
Thank you ciclo for some good pioneering!

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:57 pm
by sendoc
I am planning to install CC.
How to remove the air bag?
Pushed the metal clip down but my air bag won't pop out. both clips can be pushed down and you expect the airbag to come out . Nothing happens in my case.Any ideas?

Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:43 pm
by CNK
sendoc wrote:I am planning to install CC.
How to remove the air bag?
Pushed the metal clip down but my air bag won't pop out. both clips can be pushed down and you expect the airbag to come out . Nothing happens in my case.Any ideas?
Push down this metal clips and that's all ;)
I use a pocket knife can opener to pull down this metal clips :mrgreen:
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Re: 6R Cruise Control Retrofit Problems

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 11:19 pm
by gpeixoto109
sendoc wrote:I am planning to install CC.
How to remove the air bag?
Pushed the metal clip down but my air bag won't pop out. both clips can be pushed down and you expect the airbag to come out . Nothing happens in my case.Any ideas?

I had the exact same problem last week to install CCS. What made it work for me was using a flat-head screwdriver to pry the spring down and then wiggling the airbag out from the bottom side of the wheel. Try that, It worked for me!