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Got my new alloys (update lots of pics on page 2)
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:27 pm
by polofresh
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:49 pm
by CARPY25
looking at the rim are they 6 inch wide? if so your standard wheel bolts will be to short you need 1and a half the diameter so m12 thread would need 18mm sticking from the rear of the wheel when you drop a bolt into the wheel hole mine are 6 inch i had the same problem
don't rist it if your not sure new bolts are only £20 and your worth more
Rob
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:59 pm
by polofresh
yeh they are 6 inch wide mate the blots the guy gave me fit fine its just the locking wheel nuts that i got that striped on the front when i put it on
i just cant risk putting my alloys on without locking wheel nuts cause they would probably get nicked
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:13 pm
by CARPY25
great you were lucky to get to right bolts as part of the deal dont forget to carry 4 shorter bolts in the boot as the ones on the bbs are too long for the steel spare if you have a flat
the locking bolt you need are m12 x 1.5 pitch 30mm long (standard bolts are 23mm long) i got second hand ones off the bay mcgard number 27013 but they were too long so had to cut 10mm off each one in work think mine were vauxhall ones
don't risk fitting them without locking bolts unless you collect house bricks
rob
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:18 pm
by Mk2Adam
i had a cross threaded bolt when i bought my car and i was told i'd need to replace the hub and bearing so i got the parts and then my sister's b/f looked at it and just re-drilled the hole for me for free. don't know if that's relelvent to ya?
i guess i'll need longer bolts when i get my alloys then

and probably locking bolts as i live in the origin of chavs

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:30 pm
by CARPY25
longer bolts depend on the offset of the wheel and even then most of the time you won't need them
5.5 inch wide g40 bbs are 38 offset
6 inch wide bbs are 33 offset
Rob
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:35 pm
by Mk2Adam
i'll have 6" wide with ET38?
(sorry polofresh for thread jacking

)
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:35 pm
by polofresh
cheers for the info mate thats great you really no your stuff
I can just go to the shop tomorrow and say i need these now

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:36 pm
by polofresh
Mk2Adam wrote:i'll have 6" wide with ET38?
(sorry polofresh for thread jacking

)
no worries dude i dont mind
surely though if your getting 6 wide theyll be 33 offset aswell

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:42 am
by polofresh
these are the bolts the guy gave me with the wheels
when i drop the bolt into my wheel it sticks out 15mm is this ok?
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:17 pm
by yolmol
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:23 pm
by CARPY25
15mm should be ok
be right on the limit on the front because you have the brake disk to take into acount the threads are in the hub and you just have a clearance hole in the disk so you lose another 3mm or so if in doubt get someone who knows to check new bolts are not to dear anyway
Rob
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:24 pm
by yolmol
i was told that it was needed to have at least 3 full turns of the wheel brace for it to be safe(ish)
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:47 pm
by CARPY25
yolmol wrote:i was told that it was needed to have at least 3 full turns of the wheel brace for it to be safe(ish)
3 full turns of a bolt with a 1.5 mm pitch would be 4.5 mm thread engagement pretty sure thats no where near enough to obtain full strength
the engineering guide lines are 1.5 times diameter i.e m12 bolt ideally 18mm engagement you can play with it a little but not by much
if your not sure buy longer bolts its only £20 you could kill yourself and others lifes worth more then £20
Rob
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:49 pm
by polofresh
i got about 5 turns so it should be fine
i ordered some locking wheel nuts from a guy who actually knew what he was on about today and im picking them up in the morning so ill post up some pics of my car with the new wheels tomorrow
