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Automatic Torque Biasing Differential

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:16 am
by kz
Hello

I'm searching info about Automatic Torque Biasing Differential for Polo GTi. Do You have any info about ATB Differential - QUAIFE, KAAZ for Polo.

regards
Christopher

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:25 am
by popeye
What is that when its at home!? ha

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:22 am
by forbezGti
dont think you can get one. i look everywhere for one
and a LSD, they only seem to do them for golfs. :cry:
you will have to change the gear box to get one.
i think!! :?

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:56 pm
by omicron
You have to rebuild the gearbox to fit an LSD in a front wheel drive car, as the diff is integral to to the gearbox.

Why you would ever want one on a FWD car doesn't make sense to me. If it's slipping, it's understeering, so applying more power really isn't the answer, better cornering technicque is.

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:55 pm
by Alex_6n2
An LSD makes a lot of sense if your running high power FWD to aid traction off the line as well as cornering. There's only so much you can do without one

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:39 pm
by ceedubya
Why you would ever want one on a FWD car doesn't make sense to me. If it's slipping, it's understeering, so applying more power really isn't the answer, better cornering technicque is.
i have 270bhp+ going thru my front wheels and it made alot of difference to my car

without my ATB diff it was under steer at every corner i put my foot down on

now with the ATB diff i can put my foot flat down thru a corner and it grips and pulls you thru as its putting the power to the wheel with the most grip = the outside wheel with most of the cars weight on it

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:48 pm
by Alex_6n2
What's that like in a straight line mate? You taken it up the strip yet?

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:54 pm
by ceedubya
What's that like in a straight line mate? You taken it up the strip yet?
the biggest difference you notice with the ATB diff is coming out of bends/ round abouts as you have so much more grip

in a straight line its betta but i still get wheel spin right thru 2nd gear in the dry if i want it too

i aint had it on the strip yet with the diff in

it done a 14.4 quarter-108mph terminal on bald tyres / damp track without the ATB

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:37 am
by Alex_6n2
That's pretty fast for a FWD car :D

I bet the torque can keep you pinned in your seat for a good while 8)

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:38 pm
by tomo87
any luck with this? i sent quafie an email this morning as im after one because hte main prob with the gti gearbox is the diff so if i can get one of these it could solve the prob!

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:33 pm
by Mouse_GTI
So it only really makes sense if your running something like 170bhp in your GTI?

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:26 am
by Alex_6n2
It would probably still help with 125bhp. But you would notice more difference with greater power (as the potential for slipping is greater)

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:22 am
by mk4 glx 1.6
kz, I am assuming from your signature you have a 9n3 gti? as opposed to a 6n2? Is that correct? If this is correct I would say you would be able to source one and it would be useful once you have fair amount of power to control.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:17 pm
by Redline
mk4 glx 1.6 wrote:kz, I am assuming from your signature you have a 9n3 gti? as opposed to a 6n2?
Nope, his car is a 6N2 GTi with a turbo attached! Haven't seen him post on here for a while though.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:18 pm
by ModifiedMadness
I thought the same.

I did try to find his posts but they can't be found??